Has anyone tried Ubuntu 10.04 yet? How is it coming along?

aidan_walsh · 05-05-2010 02:18PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I still keep reading 'lynx' as the non-GUI web browser of the same name. A poor choice of distro name; llama was crying out for a bit of recycling.

Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that Lucid Lynx wasn't a psychotropic deodorant.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-05-2010 05:48PM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that Lucid Lynx wasn't a psychotropic deodorant.

It's like the head shops, they have to say it's an underarm spray to stay within the law.

I couldn't suggest you inhale it :pac:

[-0-] · 05-05-2010 07:01PM

Anyone able to get 10.04 working with an ATI Radeon x1300 using fglrx?

I'm unable to. aticonfig won't recognise the card and when I try to install the driver from ATI an error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version 2.6.31-21-generic; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro.

I'm googling but to no avail.

BopNiblets · 05-05-2010 07:43PM

I had trouble with the fglrx driver on Mint 9 RC (10.04 basically) that for some reason it wouldn't show the brightness up/down NotifyOSD notifications at all, showed sound and mute and other notifications just not the brightness ones.
Also the xsplash or usplash didn't display correctly with fglrx.

The laptop display worked ok though, compiz and all, just those little problems, disabled the driver and it worked though.

KAGY · 07-05-2010 09:44AM

Did an upgrade to the RC a while ago, some problems with fglrx but a bit of reinstalling got that fixed (I must really write down what I do in these situations). Still haven't got compositing working but I've got a dual head setup on ati so there's too many problems to sort out, besides apart from showing off I don't find effects much use.

Other than that, network manager disabled itself after a day, I was pretty sure it was a network card problem as there was no lights on router and it was working fine for a day or so. Only found out that it was a bug after I bought a wireless dongle an couldn't get that installed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/555571
Basically, a setting is set to false after it fails to resume from suspend to disk.

but apart from that, it's starting quicker, shutting down instantly, so I'm please enough.

DeepBlue · 07-05-2010 03:13PM

I did a complete install of Xubuntu Lucid Lynx and it's a complete mess.
It's as slow as molasses, the splash screen is corrupted and it takes an age to boot up.

I'll try formatting again and doing another install but if that doesn't repair it then it's back to Karmic Koala for me.

Update: A second install worked better. This time I only selected the security updates and not the "recommended" updates.
The last time around one of those was for nautilus which doesn't make sense as Thunar is the default File manager on Xubuntu.

First bug so far is that USB devices are not visible in Thunar if using auto-login and auto-mount. There's a fix here.

Also thunar freezes in Detailed View.
I'm kinda suprised they shipped in that state.

evercloserunion · 07-05-2010 05:03PM

I finally have a bit of free time so I could install now, but I think I will wait until the actual end of my exams in 2 weeks so I can properly play around with it.

Crazy the variation in responses to it though! Does anyone know, as bugs are reported and fixed, is the download ISO updated or do you just download the original buggy ISO and then install updates when you install?

Jonathan · 07-05-2010 05:36PM

evercloserunion wrote: »

I finally have a bit of free time so I could install now, but I think I will wait until the actual end of my exams in 2 weeks so I can properly play around with it.

Crazy the variation in responses to it though! Does anyone know, as bugs are reported and fixed, is the download ISO updated or do you just download the original buggy ISO and then install updates when you install?

iso is final. Updates are installed from apt.

Monotype · 07-05-2010 10:50PM

Installed kubuntu 10.4 desktop and netbook editions two days ago. Very nice. Good to see 'borrowed' features like the aero snap thing in windows 7. The netbook edition takes some getting used to, but I should get there in a while. I'm slightly surprised there's only a 32-bit edition (thanks intel for releasing so many crappy 32-bit atoms early on :mad:).

James G · 07-05-2010 11:56PM

I just downloaded the 64bit version, but it's kind of late. I'll probably test it some time tomorrow, and decide whether I'm going to use it or not.

BopNiblets · 08-05-2010 11:12AM

Monotype wrote: »

Good to see 'borrowed' features like the aero snap thing in windows 7.

That's in it?
I saw a compiz script thing that enabled it for Karmic and the others but they enabled it as an option or what?
It's not in the Mint 9 RC anyway that I could find.

Edit, I just realised you might mean on KDE, the same thing is doable in Gnome too, might try it later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAsNyRE7k4

Monotype · 08-05-2010 12:11PM

Yeah, this is KDE feature on kubuntu. Gnome ubuntu seems to be drifting towards Mac OS, especially with this version. I haven't seen the latest mint, but I hope they don't go in that direction.

There's a threads about doing it in ubuntu. Looks like there's lots of demand, so maybe the next version.
http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9238612
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/aero-snap-ubuntu-linux.html

You can do something similar with the grid plugin for compiz.

irish_stickman · 10-05-2010 04:02PM

Monotype wrote: »

Good to see 'borrowed' features like the aero snap thing in windows 7

Funny thing is Windows borrowed this feature from Linux and never gave it back, the ability to do this was always there in Linux, just takes a bit of messing around with to get it right

Rebel021 · 11-05-2010 02:10PM

irish_stickman wrote: »

Funny thing is Windows borrowed this feature from Linux and never gave it back, the ability to do this was always there in Linux, just takes a bit of messing around with to get it right

Windows has been stealing borrowing from Mac and linux for years.
They haven't had an original idea for a long time.

Loving Lucid Lynx
Its a steep learning curve for me but enjoyable ( spent 12hrs using it yesterday).
I have an Ati video card so I will have to go with Nvidia for better graphics due to the lack of support for ati.

Rebel021 · 11-05-2010 04:21PM

Great tut here
http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/638-custom-compiz-effects-configuration-in-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala

[-0-] · 13-05-2010 11:54AM

[-0-] wrote: »

Anyone able to get 10.04 working with an ATI Radeon x1300 using fglrx?

I'm unable to. aticonfig won't recognise the card and when I try to install the driver from ATI an error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version 2.6.31-21-generic; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro.

I'm googling but to no avail.

I ended up downgrading back to 8.04 which broke everything, including network connectivity. :pac:

I bought a new SATA hard disk as I needed one anyway, partitioned it (Windows 7 [Reason for music editing] and Ubuntu 9.1), copied over all the crap from my other HDD, formatted that and keeping it as a storage drive.

I'm finally back in action. Considering my PC is 4 years old but still runs like a charm I'm going to dual boot it as a Ubuntu server (no X) and also use it for music editing.

I'll buy a new computer in July/August and I'll throw the latest version of Ubuntu onto that then.

Eliot Rosewater · 13-05-2010 05:09PM

Unfortunately I'm still having this problem whereby Ubuntu won't shutdown, just restarting instead.

I really want to upgrade!

loldog · 13-05-2010 05:27PM

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Unfortunately I'm still having this problem whereby Ubuntu won't shutdown, just restarting instead.

I really want to upgrade!

can you suspend?

Also, try shutting down with a command, just to see what happens. Do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login. Then do

sudo shutdown -h now

See if it shuts down that way.
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Eliot Rosewater · 13-05-2010 05:29PM

Cheers for the advice, but I've tried that. I've also tried # poweroff, but still the same issue.

I haven't tried to suspend.

Only way I can turn off is by holding down the power button, but I'm not sure this is a good thing to do!

Khannie · 13-05-2010 06:10PM

Try halt also. I think it just uses shutdown, but it's worth trying:

sudo halt

There is also something in /proc that allows you to send a shut down signal to the kernel that I can't remember off the top of my head.

Eliot Rosewater · 13-05-2010 08:40PM

Cheers for the suggestion Khannie, but the same thing happens!

Tobias Greeshman · 14-05-2010 02:50PM

Khannie wrote: »

There is also something in /proc that allows you to send a shut down signal to the kernel that I can't remember off the top of my head.

First tell the kernel to turn on sysrq mode

echo 1 >/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq

Then send the appropriate code to /proc/sysrq-trigger (using echo), see here for a list of codes. I think b will do a reboot of the box.

Eliot Rosewater · 14-05-2010 05:36PM

Tobias Greeshman wrote: »

First tell the kernel to turn on sysrq mode...

Cheers for the suggestion. Doing it through the terminal wouldn't work (insufficient permissions), but holding down <Alt>+<SysRq> and then the letter did the trick (o for shutdown).

It still restarted.

By the way, is restarting/shutting down the computer that way dangerous?

loldog · 14-05-2010 07:50PM

See what this does Elliott:

Holding down Alt and SysRq (which is the Print Screen key) while slowly typing REISUO

From here: http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart

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Eliot Rosewater · 14-05-2010 09:57PM

Cheers loldog, but the same thing.

At this stage I'm just planning to wait and see if some update fixes it.

Tobias Greeshman · 19-05-2010 09:51PM

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Cheers for the suggestion. Doing it through the terminal wouldn't work (insufficient permissions), but holding down <Alt>+<SysRq> and then the letter did the trick (o for shutdown).

It still restarted.

By the way, is restarting/shutting down the computer that way dangerous?

You probably just needed to log in as root or run the command via sudo.

Is it dangerous? It depends, I think it just pulls the plug on all processes (same as a kill -9), so if they're writing stuff to disk there's a chance for data corruption. Still it's a last resort if everything else fails for rebooting/shutting down the OS.

evercloserunion · 19-05-2010 10:19PM

Just one more day until my exams are over. Which means one more day until I try out 10.04! It's sick that this is what I'm looking forward to most of all...

VampiricPadraig · 24-05-2010 10:18AM

I have been a Ubuntu user since 7.10 and this is by far the best version of Ubuntu there has been.

10.04 works with everything (unlike 8.10 which decided not to give me sound at all) Love the new interface, love the software center. It's brilliant.

Oh, and I know I am going off-topic a bit BUT, 10.10 is gonna be a big closer to Mac with the "File - Edit - View" bar on the top panel (Where "Applications - Places - System" name is. So, it would be 80-90% Mac. 10% Windows. But we shall see

evercloserunion · 24-05-2010 07:40PM

VampiricPadraig wrote: »

I have been a Ubuntu user since 7.10 and this is by far the best version of Ubuntu there has been.

10.04 works with everything (unlike 8.10 which decided not to give me sound at all) Love the new interface, love the software center. It's brilliant.

Oh, and I know I am going off-topic a bit BUT, 10.10 is gonna be a big closer to Mac with the "File - Edit - View" bar on the top panel (Where "Applications - Places - System" name is. So, it would be 80-90% Mac. 10% Windows. But we shall see

I don't really get why Gnome is moving so much closer to Mac. Of course, if there is something that Mac is doing right then Ubuntu should strive to do it too but it seems that, visually at least, Gnome is becoming a carbon copy of Mac. Not the end of the world as Ubuntu is highly customisable but I don't get the rationale behind it.

loldog · 25-05-2010 12:17AM

evercloserunion wrote: »

I don't really get why Gnome is moving so much closer to Mac. Of course, if there is something that Mac is doing right then Ubuntu should strive to do it too but it seems that, visually at least, Gnome is becoming a carbon copy of Mac. Not the end of the world as Ubuntu is highly customisable but I don't get the rationale behind it.

Well, I wouldn't say Gnome is going Mac-like at all. The incoming Gnome Shell is a very different kind of desktop, very unlike anything out there at the moment. I think it would be a mistake to equate the Gnome desktop with what Canonical are doing. For example, the latest release of Mint hasn't changed the placement of the window buttons.

Also, Canonical moved those buttons to the left not to imitate the Mac but to make way for their planned Windicators. Privately, he calls them "vindicators" after all the hullabaloo about the recent change.

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Has anyone tried Ubuntu 10.04 yet? How is it coming along?

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