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Airtricity 11 vs Man. Utd - **MOD NOTE POST 457**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,602 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Osu wrote: »
    Oh dear. :rolleyes:
    Yeah about 40,000 HSV fans singing sectarian songs. Wise up will you.
    /Off Topic

    Shut up son, please. It's getting silly now.

    45,000 fans at the Nordbank, 4,000 celtic fans. So are you really saying all but 1,000 HSV fans were singing sectarian songs?.

    Come on now. Stop spatting absolute bullsh*t about my team, I have been a Hamburg fan for years and they are some of the nicest fans you will ever meet, bar the scum element THAT EXISTS AT EVERY F**KING CLUB IN THE WORLD.

    It's laughable that you say ''about'' 40,000 HSV fans were singing sectarian songs. Considering the amount of kids that support the team with their parents and OAP's that are at the games. They were at it too were they?.

    Apologies to the lads that don't give a damn about this conversation, but when someone starts giving me crap and bad mouthing fellow fans of my team I will respond. I know if it was a team that has many fans on here it would happen too. Again, sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    And it's a big assumption to think it will actually be the top 11 players. I know I don't want any bohs players in it.

    Let Bray play them, that 31-0 could easily be beaten by half time.

    Depending on how we are doing in our relegation battle i wouldnt want any of our players playing. But the evil bastid in me wants to see Mulcahy vs United just for the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    A opportunity to promote the game here turned into a day trip for the ole ole brigade.

    Barstoolers wet dream tbh, would have preferred a LoI XI -v- Oirland.




    As much as I hate United its people like the above that would nearly have me cheering them on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    No chance any of our players will be anywhere near this wankfest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    As much as I hate United its people like the above that would nearly have me cheering them on.

    I'm surprised you let the opinions of a couple of people on an Internet forum affect you that much


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,381 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    CiaranC wrote: »
    No chance any of our players will be anywhere near this wankfest

    Have the FAI done this without any consultation with the Airtricity League clubs, just assuming they will get the players they want released?

    I would have thought part of the setup for this game would have involved insuring they would get some decent players released, or are the simply banking on getting 18 players of some standard released and the majority of fans at the game no knowing the difference?

    As an aside, if the game was taken seriously and the clubs (and fans of the clubs) did not have a problem with it, what side do you think would be selected? Who would make up the best 11 the airtricity league could put on show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Be like the Rovers Real Madrid game. For instance, Twigg only came on in the last few minutes as a crowd pleaser.

    The clubs are realistic, they don't want to risk players for a friendly.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    It's down to cash cash cash money money money.

    Would a LOI V Ireland team fill the Aviva? Possibly. But getting United practically guarantee's a full house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,381 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    It's down to cash cash cash money money money.

    Would a LOI V Ireland team fill the Aviva? Possibly. But getting United practically guarantee's a full house.

    For me, there was never really a chance of Ireland being involved - the clubs would not release their players for the game unless they had to imo (same could happen with the Airtricity 11 team).

    I think it was a straight choice between a LoI game, or a game involving the LoI and a foreign side doing their preseason. The game against the foreign side is going to make a lot more money and get a lot more people in. The problem is, from discussions on this thread, that the foreign side picked have a massive following in Ireland, so the support will be for them as opposed to the LoI side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    the LOI side in this case I can see being made of up a load of fringe players. They will not get the top names for this one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    It's down to cash cash cash money money money.

    Would a LOI V Ireland team fill the Aviva? Possibly. But getting United practically guarantee's a full house.

    Sure Ireland are playing Paraguay and Algeria at the RDS and tickets are still available. Is this because it is only being played at the RDS? Would this have sold out at the Avivia? I doubt it. Would a LoI v Ireland fill the Aviva, unfortunately I doubt that too.

    Fact of the matter is, people want to see the star players and that's what United will bring as they gear themselves for the new campaign. There are many parents like myself and my son is obsessed with Man United and this is the perfect opportunity for me to make his day in seeing Manchester United as at the moment, I can't afford to bring him to see a match over there.

    My son loves football, as I do and mayb e more as he will watch any match possible just to see a ball being kicked around but if I asked him, well son, ManU are playing tonight and so is Bohs v however for example, I already know who he is going to want to see.

    The FAI also know this and they know that they will pack out the place with peopel from all over the country who are in the same boat as myself and will make their money out of it.

    I don't see why this match is attracting so much negativity really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    So there sayin if you buy tickets for the two game pack for the Ireland matchs you will get tickets for the United game for sure.......

    Does that mean you get the same amount of tickets for the united game as u actually purchased for the Ireland games???
    Or are you just gonna get first dibs on the united tickets when go on sale?
    Like presale for a concert

    Interestin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    So there sayin if you buy tickets for the two game pack for the Ireland matchs you will get tickets for the United game for sure.......

    Does that mean you get the same amount of tickets for the united game as u actually purchased for the Ireland games???
    Or are you just gonna get first dibs on the united tickets when go on sale?
    Like presale for a concert

    Interestin...

    I am nearly sure that it will be that if you buy a pair of tickets for the Ireland games, that will entitle you to one ticket to the LoI 11 v ManU game as it was for the Ireland v France afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    As an aside, if the game was taken seriously and the clubs (and fans of the clubs) did not have a problem with it, what side do you think would be selected? Who would make up the best 11 the airtricity league could put on show.

    I think a decent select from the LOI could well acquit itself OK, seeing as we would be mid-season, and especially as the United team would not be full-strength.

    Another thing to consider on top of the fixture congestion is that most LOI clubs (through financial necessity) will all be lining up summer friendlies anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    I am nearly sure that it will be that if you buy a pair of tickets for the Ireland games, that will entitle you to one ticket to the LoI 11 v ManU game as it was for the Ireland v France afaik.

    Thats a bit gay to be honest i mean if i was to do it this way i would bring me little brother and probley me da along to the Ireland matchs and me and me brother are both united fans so if i went united match would want him there to. To be honest if there giving you one ticket for sure then how is anyone gonna bring another person with them and sit beside them??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    Thats a bit gay to be honest i mean if i was to do it this way i would bring me little brother and probley me da along to the Ireland matchs and me and me brother are both united fans so if i went united match would want him there to. To be honest if there giving you one ticket for sure then how is anyone gonna bring another person with them and sit beside them??

    It measn that you will have to buy 2 pairs of tickets for the Ireland v Paraguay and Ireland v Algeria to get a pair of tickets for the LoI 11 v ManU game.

    It'll get more people to the RDS games which hasn't sold out yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    It measn that you will have to buy 2 pairs of tickets for the Ireland v Paraguay and Ireland v Algeria to get a pair of tickets for the LoI 11 v ManU game.

    It'll get more people to the RDS games which hasn't sold out yet.

    So 3 tickets for the 2match pack would get you 3 tickets to the United game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    My son loves football, as I do and mayb e more as he will watch any match possible just to see a ball being kicked around but if I asked him, well son, ManU are playing tonight and so is Bohs v however for example, I already know who he is going to want to see.

    Bohs play on fridays and Man United play on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    doncarlos wrote: »
    Bohs play on fridays and Man United play on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. :confused:

    Think he just meant as an example that if bohs where playin on same nite as united his son would pick united.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    doncarlos wrote: »
    Bohs play on fridays and Man United play on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. :confused:

    Sorry, maybe I was a bit confusing there.

    I used the example to say if the 2 matches where being playing at the same time on the same day, I know who he would prefer to see and that would be Man United.

    Actually, I'd say that if parents were to ask their kids in general, what game they would rather see, I would think that most of them would go for the bigger sounding match and unfortunately the LoI games aren't the bigger sounding games to our kids.

    I think that most parents might agree if they are honest enough. If a poll was put up where parents asked their kids the same question and the parents honestly put in the correct vote, I'm sure that most young kids would rather go see the bigger names playing and the poll would reflect that.

    Sure as a footballer, you want to be playing against the best and show what you can do against the best and people who want to watch football, they want to see the best players playing.

    Isn't that why we'll be watching the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Ribery, Drogba and the rest at the World Cup.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    doncarlos wrote: »
    Bohs play on fridays and Man United play on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. :confused:

    And to add, my son does watch the LoI games on Fridays when on they'ye box or if I can get the games to stream online and then on Saturdays, Sundays and whatever other days there is a game on, we'll watch them too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Sorry, maybe I was a bit confusing there.

    I used the example to say if the 2 matches where being playing at the same time on the same day, I know who he would prefer to see and that would be Man United.

    Actually, I'd say that if parents were to ask their kids in general, what game they would rather see, I would think that most of them would go for the bigger sounding match and unfortunately the LoI games aren't the bigger sounding games to our kids.

    I think that most parents might agree if they are honest enough. If a poll was put up where parents asked their kids the same question and the parents honestly put in the correct vote, I'm sure that most young kids would rather go see the bigger names playing and the poll would reflect that.

    Sure as a footballer, you want to be playing against the best and show what you can do against the best and people who want to watch football, they want to see the best players playing.

    Isn't that why we'll be watching the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Ribery, Drogba and the rest at the World Cup.

    It'll be a rare kid in Ireland that won't like an English team which is fair enough. I've never met a LOI supporter that didn't either.

    My son will have both if he likes football. He can experience the craic at Rovers - and believe me , LOI can be magic craic for kids. And I'll be taking him over to Manchester as well as watching ball with him on the telly.

    No need to have to pick one over the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    And to add, my son does watch the LoI games on Fridays when on they'ye box or if I can get the games to stream online and then on Saturdays, Sundays and whatever other days there is a game on, we'll watch them too.

    Shhh they will only start calling your son a barstooler for only watching games on tv !!!!! :p Dont you know that you have to go to every match live in person to be a real fan!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    stovelid wrote: »
    My son will have both if he likes football. He can experience the craic at Rovers - and believe me , it can be magic craic for kids. And I'll be taking him over to Manchester as well as watching ball with him on the telly.

    Why pick one over the other?

    I'm a single father who isn't working at the moment and can't afford it. When we go out to watch a match in the pub, at the moment it's a matter of buying a 1.5ltr bottle of 7up that will last us the match or 2 matches when there is one on after the other.

    Tough times at the moment which is why, having the opportunity to bring my lil lad to go see United while they are here, gives me more time to save to bring him over for a match over there further down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    Shhh they will only start calling your son a barstooler for only watching games on tv !!!!! :p Dont you know that you have to go to every match live in person to be a real fan!!! :rolleyes:

    People can call me what they want. They don't know me. Anybody who does know me thinks I am obsessed with football and then they meet my 7 year old son who I think is miles worse than me when it comes to football.

    If I had the money to go and bring him to the LoI games along with games across the pond, I'd be doing exactly that because it would make him so happy and I'd love it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,255 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    People can call me what they want. They don't know me. Anybody who does know me thinks I am obsessed with football and then they meet my 7 year old son who I think is miles worse than me when it comes to football.

    If I had the money to go and bring him to the LoI games along with games across the pond, I'd be doing exactly that because it would make him so happy and I'd love it too.

    I know man i was just makin a joke of how some people love to speak this **** about what a real football fan is and so on :p

    End the day its a sport which everyone is fully allowed to enjoy in any form they want to weather its to watch games in pub or at home or over in there mates its there business.

    Just cause you dont go to live matchs all time or even ever dont make u less of a fan anyone who says that is full of ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    I'm a single father who isn't working at the moment and can't afford it. When we go out to watch a match in the pub, at the moment it's a matter of buying a 1.5ltr bottle of 7up that will last us the match or 2 matches when there is one on after the other.

    Tough times at the moment which is why, having the opportunity to bring my lil lad to go see United while they are here, gives me more time to save to bring him over for a match over there further down the line.
    It would cost just 16 quid a game for both you and your youngfella to go along to Tallaght for every remaining match day (12 games). About half of the price of a single trip to Manchester. Its not as expensive as you think, and he'd get so much more out of it. The kids in Tallaght have an absolute ball, to them Twiggy and Baker are every bit the Wayne Rooney.

    Im sure the other clubs are similarly priced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Have the FAI done this without any consultation with the Airtricity League clubs, just assuming they will get the players they want released?

    I would have thought...
    F A I


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Madworld


    I know man i was just makin a joke of how some people love to speak this **** about what a real football fan is and so on :p

    End the day its a sport which everyone is fully allowed to enjoy in any form they want to weather its to watch games in pub or at home or over in there mates its there business.

    Just cause you dont go to live matchs all time or even ever dont make u less of a fan anyone who says that is full of ****e.

    So would you consider yourself to be in the same bracket of "fan" as somebody who goes to see their team home and away be it domestically or in Europe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭MuPpItJoCkEy


    CiaranC wrote: »
    It would cost just 16 quid a game for both you and your youngfella to go along to Tallaght for every remaining match day (12 games). About half of the price of a single trip to Manchester. Its not as expensive as you think, and he'd get so much more out of it. The kids in Tallaght have an absolute ball, to them Twiggy and Baker are every bit the Wayne Rooney.

    Im sure the other clubs are similarly priced.

    For him, it's a dream to go over to Old Trafford and I promised him I would when I could so the trips to Tallagh or anywhere else for that matter will be after that as it trip to Tallagh (for example) would be taking funds which are goling towards a trip to Old Trafford away. Once I've done the United trip with him, then the promise has been done and I don't need to worry about that one anymore and then LoI becomes a possibilty because otherwise I can have a situation where I am bringing him to the LoI games and he'll love them but will still be asking when are we going to Old Trafford and I'll keep saying that I don't have the money (and that will be partly because I am going to LoI games).

    To be honest, I'll be looking forward to going to the LoI games as I want him to see what it's like and to enjoy it. He loves playing football and plays for his local tream. I want him to see what LoI is like and want him to have goals of playing in it when he is older if he can make it.


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