Airtricity 11 vs Man. Utd - **MOD NOTE POST 457**

Le King

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Shut up son, please. It's getting silly now.

45,000 fans at the Nordbank, 4,000 celtic fans. So are you really saying all but 1,000 HSV fans were singing sectarian songs?.

Come on now. Stop spatting absolute bullsh*t about my team, I have been a Hamburg fan for years and they are some of the nicest fans you will ever meet, bar the scum element THAT EXISTS AT EVERY F**KING CLUB IN THE WORLD.

It's laughable that you say ''about'' 40,000 HSV fans were singing sectarian songs. Considering the amount of kids that support the team with their parents and OAP's that are at the games. They were at it too were they?.

Apologies to the lads that don't give a damn about this conversation, but when someone starts giving me crap and bad mouthing fellow fans of my team I will respond. I know if it was a team that has many fans on here it would happen too. Again, sorry.

Neo-Nazi and Hamburg go hand and hand. Read up on "your" clubs history.

Fascism and Hamburg SV seem to go well together, after all the club officially funds a fascist magazine.

Seriously get out of your glass house.

Some people on here are pathetic.

You can't be Irish and support Hamburg.

But you certainly can be an uninformed twit and support Hamburg.

Anyway this is completely off-topic.

If you want to discuss it further PM me, along with anyone else that is.

CSF

Osu wrote: »

Neo-Nazi and Hamburg go hand and hand. Read up on "your" clubs history.

Fascism and Hamburg SV seem to go well together, after all the club officially funds a fascist magazine.

Seriously get out of your glass house.

Some people on here are pathetic.

You can't be Irish and support Hamburg.

But you certainly can be an uninformed twit and support Hamburg.

Anyway this is completely off-topic.

If you want to discuss it further PM me, along with anyone else that is.

Jesus Christ, why didn't you follow your own advice? Instead of having to get 1 last dig in before taking it private.

Oat23

Absolutely pathetic, that is all I have to say on the matter. False accusations in every single one of his posts on this off-topic subject(started by him).

He makes his posts sound like hamburg is the worst team in the world with the scummiest fans and if they are not fascists, they are just simply bald neo-nazi's that will beat the sh*t out of you. It's pathetic, osu.

I've lived, worked and been a season ticket holder at Hamburg for a season, I've many friends in Hamburg and when I compare it to other german teams there is no difference. Beer, bratwurst and some songs as it is everywhere else.

I don't know why I have let this WUM wind me up so long. That's the last of it. I really don't give a damn what Osu thinks.

/off topic again, sorry. Over with now.

doncarlos

Osu wrote: »

You can't be Irish and support Hamburg.

But you can be Irish and support Man United like you

Le King

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Absolutely pathetic, that is all I have to say on the matter. False accusations in every single one of his posts on this off-topic subject(started by him).

He makes his posts sound like hamburg is the worst team in the world with the scummiest fans and if they are not fascists, they are just simply bald neo-nazi's that will beat the sh*t out of you. It's pathetic, osu.

I've lived, worked and been a season ticket holder at Hamburg for a season, I've many friends in Hamburg and when I compare it to other german teams there is no difference. Beer, bratwurst and some songs as it is everywhere else.

I don't know why I have let this WUM wind me up so long. That's the last of it. I really don't give a damn what Osu thinks.

/off topic again, sorry. Over with now.

Crying baby, pathetic.

As I said earlier if you want to take it to PM, be my guest.

Otherwise don't clog up the thread

Le King

doncarlos wrote: »

But you can be Irish and support Man United like you

Your right Carlos, you should be confused.

I'm a United fan because of my roots.

However if you would like to discuss this further then PM me.

This thread has had enough of me.

GLaDOS

Bump - Fenlon says what we're all thinking, tis all a bit silly

Bohemians' manager Pat Fenlon insists that if the FAI were to move Bohs' Champions League tie on August 3rd or 4th, depending if they win their first tie, then Irish football is in "serious trouble."

Bohs would only need to progress past one round, which they will be seeded for, for the game to clash with the Airtricity XI v Manchester United at the Aviva Stadium on August 4th.

John Delaney has confirmed he has already been in discussions with UEFA about the possibility of having the date of the tie moved, to facilitate the money-spinning friendly.

“We can consider that with UEFA. We have already had preliminary discussions with them in terms of the ability to move dates if we needed to do,” he told Saturday's Irish Daily Star.

Speaking to Extratime after Saturday's Setanta Sports Cup triumph, Fenlon made it clear he was completely against the idea of moving such an important game for The Gypsies.

“I'd be totally against it obviously. If we're going to start moving Champions League games for a friendly then we are in serious, serious trouble.”

Fenlon also said he would not be happy to release any of his players to take part in the friendly, the first football match to take place in the Aviva Stadium.

“No, not if we have a Champions League game. We won't be releasing any players that's for certain.”

Jordan Berbatov

I missed an awful lot by skipping from the first to last page, from LOI XI's to Hamburg?

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John Delaney has confirmed he has already been in discussions with UEFA about the possibility of having the date of the tie moved, to facilitate the money-spinning friendly.

“We can consider that with UEFA. We have already had preliminary discussions with them in terms of the ability to move dates if we needed to do,” he told Saturday's Irish Daily Star.

This fúcker needs to be impeached.

Is he fúcking serious?

applehunter

The debt on the stadium and the premium seats stuff is taking Delaney's eye off the ball.

When is the ownership of the league up for auction again?

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applehunter wrote: »

When is the ownership of the league up for auction again?

This season is the last season on the current run.

I hope proper "league minded" people can step in and do it some justice.

A committee of club chairmen or something.

Or the ghost of Ollie.

Gavin "shels"

Sadlier maybe?

applehunter

Remember John Delaney doing a interview on Radio 1 talking about their takeover of the league.

He said that get back to me at the end of the our tenure and see how we've done.

RTE/MNS should get that interview from the archive and play it back as we are coming up to the end of the contract. Will make for good debate.

Zebra3

I hope UEFA refuse to move Bohs possible game.

I thought the FAI had a contract to run the league for five years, so that means they're in charge til the end of next season.

stovelid

Gavin shels wrote: »

Sadlier maybe?

Not sure Richie wants anything to do with Irish football again. That said, I spotted himself and Roddy at Rovers-UCD on Friday...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/smallmindedness-that-drove-me-out-of-irish-football-2182022.html

Small-mindedness that drove me out of Irish football

By Richard Sadlier
Sunday May 16 2010

It was a level of exposure that money can't buy. Cristiano Ronaldo's Real Madrid debut was to happen on Irish soil in a League of Ireland ground.

Although most people would tune in to see Real Madrid rather than Shamrock Rovers, the fixture presented an opportunity for the domestic game to figure in at least the conversations of Irish football fans all over the country for the first time in a long time.

However, a request from local rivals Bohemians the month before left me stunned. It was the phone call which brought about my decision to quit the League of Ireland.

In a staggering display of small-mindedness and self-interest, I was asked to lend my support, and that of St Patrick's Athletic, to a formal objection by Bohs against the game going ahead. Their concern was that the game would affect the attendance at their Champions League game two nights later if they were drawn to play at home in the first leg. St Pat's were due to play in the Europa League the night after that (though we could also have been drawn away first) and they figured I would be of a like mind.

Due to dealings with both of last season's Champions League finalists, domestic football made it on to the back pages again last week. Manchester United are lined up to play an Airtricity League selection on August 4 in what will be the first football game at the Aviva Stadium. Contracted to bringing their big-name players, the game will surely sell out. Barcelona, on the other hand, have been denied permission by the FAI to play Limerick four days earlier in Thomond Park. Limerick are now believed to have initiated legal correspondence with the FAI as a result.

As ever, the FAI have their reasons. Firstly, they say the date just doesn't suit. The claim that such fixtures cannot be played on dates which clash with domestic games can be dismissed out of hand when you consider what's going on the week the Manchester United friendly has been given the go-ahead. The semi-finals of the League Cup are due to be played two nights before, Bohemians could be involved in the Champions League the same night, up to three clubs could have Europa League fixtures the following night, while all clubs have league fixtures the night after that. The Barcelona friendly, meanwhile, would have clashed with Sligo v Dundalk, a game which attracted 1,800 fans five weeks ago.

Secondly, they're objecting to the involvement of a third party, believed to be a UK-based agency. No such objections existed when Platinum One arranged last summer's friendly between Real and Shamrock Rovers, so that's utter nonsense.

And finally, they say they have been in negotiations to bring Barcelona to the country themselves. That the national association would put profit for themselves ahead of a money-spinner for a club which almost went out of business last year beggars belief. They say it is "regrettable", though shameful would be nearer the mark.

Having said that, you would think their decision to invite a selection of the best players in the league to play against Manchester United would excite domestic clubs and fans alike. It seems you'd be very wrong. Message boards and forums have been filled all week with fans venting their rage that the League of Ireland would be demeaned by playing a meaningless game designed to please 'bar-stool fans' of the Premier League. Managers are concerned their players will pick up injuries, CEOs are annoyed there was no formal consultation at any point in the process, and the lack of clarity on ticket allocations has infuriated everyone. Clubs have yet to be told if any will be available to sell directly to their fans, with one club being told last week it would be very unlikely. And you can imagine how Limerick feel about it.

Nonetheless, the fixture represents an opportunity for league players to perform in front of more people on one day than the total number of fans who have watched their 14 league games so far this season. No trophies are at stake and the result is irrelevant, but the game will attract more attention than any they have played in before. Promoting the League is an ongoing struggle for all, but the reality is the big crowds stay away until foreign opponents arrive. There is no likelihood of that scenario changing any time soon, so maximising the PR and financial gains from all such opportunities is essential for everyone involved.

Whether the FAI do the right thing and reverse the decision on the Barcelona game remains to be seen, but they have somehow arrived at a juncture where making the correct decision will make them look even worse.

If enough managers withhold their players from the Manchester United game due to the immediate needs of their own, the capacity crowd will come away with even less of an opinion on the domestic game than they had before they arrived. Both scenarios are hard to believe possible.

Lollymcd

stovelid wrote: »

CEOs are annoyed there was no formal consultation at any point in the process, and the lack of clarity on ticket allocations has infuriated everyone. Clubs have yet to be told if any will be available to sell directly to their fans, with one club being told last week it would be very unlikely.

From the FAI website:

Supporters who purhcase a two match ticket for Paraguay and Algeria will be entitled to the option to purchase two tickets for the Airtricity League XI v Man Utd game on August 4.
Supporters who purchase a single match ticket for Paraguay will be entitled to the option to purchase one ticket for the Airtricity League XI v Man Utd game on August 4.

FAI are a bunch of twats!

At the very least season ticket holders of Airtricty clubs (who support the league week in week out) should be given the opportunity to purchase tickets. Damn narrow minded money grabbing fools.

dreamers75

stovelid wrote: »

Not sure Richie wants anything to do with Irish football again. That said, I spotted himself and Roddy at Rovers-UCD on Friday...

Fairly sure Pats fans wouldnt want him near the club again, hes all hearts and minds.


His heart and his mind and where it works in the future. At no point did it seem he had any intention of sticking around so our future plans were made preseason by Mahon and Kelleher.

Oat23

Cúnts have moved the Sligo Rovers v Shamrock Rovers cup semi from August 2nd to August 17th because of this búllshít game.

Stupid prícks the lot of them, game was on the perfect day(bank holiday monday) when everyone is off work and they go and move it to a Tuesday night.

pablomakaveli

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Cúnts have moved the Sligo Rovers v Shamrock Rovers cup semi from August 2nd to August 17th because of this búllshít game.

Stupid prícks the lot of them, game was on the perfect day(bank holiday monday) when everyone is off work and they go and move it to a Tuesday night.

Sligo and Shams should prevent any of their players being used in the friendly as a protest.

They would'nt let Limerick play Barca because it clashed with fixtures (well that was one of the many ridiculous excuses given) but they have no problem moving fixtures for this game.

SRFC90

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Cúnts have moved the Sligo Rovers v Shamrock Rovers cup semi from August 2nd to August 17th because of this búllshít game.

Stupid prícks the lot of them, game was on the perfect day(bank holiday monday) when everyone is off work and they go and move it to a Tuesday night.

I know man, fcuking joke......:mad:

doncarlos

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Cúnts have moved the Sligo Rovers v Shamrock Rovers cup semi from August 2nd to August 17th because of this búllshít game.

Stupid prícks the lot of them, game was on the perfect day(bank holiday monday) when everyone is off work and they go and move it to a Tuesday night.

I'm assuming the Dundalk VS Mons match was moved also then?

stovelid

Nor would they let us move a game last season because Tallaght was unavailable. No problem screwing us over to give two fingers at P1, but they'll mess around with fixtures just to cozy up to the Ole-Oles.

Bastard FAI and that fucking snake Delaney.

This is the final straw for me. I've paid good money for Ireland over the years and went to my first game in 1986.

I will not attend another Ireland match until a regime change occurs.

Sunset V

As a die hard LOI fan, this game is a great idea. I work with a guy who plays in the league and he said every player would give their leg to play in this game. It's an opportunity that just doesn't come around so I say embrace it for what it is. It should be a decent game and an enjoyable day.

My LOI team would be:

P. Cherrie

D. Lynch
C. Kenna
G. Peers
C. Powell

J. Ndo
S. Byrne
J. Chambers
G. Bolger

P. Amond
G. Twigg

redout

FAI sent out letters to block bookers about this fixture today and forthcoming fixtures in the new lansdowne.

There is a new credit card season ticket on offer that gives a discount of between 7 and 10% but you need to pay all up front.

stovelid

Sunset V wrote: »

J. Chambers
G. Twigg

lol

bohsman

Sunset V wrote: »

As a die hard LOI fan, this game is a great idea. I work with a guy who plays in the league and he said every player would give their leg to play in this game. It's an opportunity that just doesn't come around so I say embrace it for what it is. It should be a decent game and an enjoyable day.

My LOI team would be:

P. Cherrie

D. Lynch
C. Kenna
G. Peers
C. Powell

J. Ndo
S. Byrne
J. Chambers
G. Bolger

P. Amond
G. Twigg

Sincerely doubt any of the Bohs first team will want to play.

stovelid

bohsman wrote: »

Sincerely doubt any of the Bohs first team will want to play.

We're playing each other two days later.

I seriously doubt either set of members would be happy about key players being risked for the gratification of The Great Irish Sporting Public.

Sunset V

stovelid wrote: »

lol

Don't know them personally but I wasn't aware that they were funny guys.

stovelid

Sunset V wrote: »

Don't know them personally but I wasn't aware that they were funny guys.

http://instantrimshot.com/classic/?sound=rimshot

bohsman

stovelid wrote: »

We're playing each other two days later.

.

We're hopefully in the CL on the night of the match.