Leaving Cert History 2010

cweeva · 14-10-2009 11:20pm #1

Ok so I don't think this thread is anywhere... I'm new to this so if it it just point me in the direction:)

Basically I'm wondering...
what are peoples predictions for the history exam in 2010?
I love history... but the course is very very overwhelming!
And also, what way are people approaching it? Learning essays... learning case studies... learning key personalities????

theowen · 14-10-2009 11:53pm

cweeva wrote: »

Ok so I don't think this thread is anywhere... I'm new to this so if it it just point me in the direction:)

Basically I'm wondering...
what are peoples predictions for the history exam in 2010?
I love history... but the course is very very overwhelming!
And also, what way are people approaching it? Learning essays... learning case studies... learning key personalities????

It's early enough to learn everything;)

Bigdeadlydave · 15-10-2009 7:08pm

Apparently History is quite hard to predict(so my teacher says). Practice doing document questions, thats where you will pick up easy marks. Of course if you are doing ordinary level you should learn key personalities(like when they were born etc) And if you are doing higher you will have to answer questions like "Examine the growth of fascism in a European country" where the person(Hitler etc) will only be a part of your answer. But I don't really know what I am talking about so I wuld ask your teacher or get one of those less stress books.

Seloth · 15-10-2009 7:15pm

My teacher was saying to study musslolini as he hasnt popped up yet/in a while so he's bound to show up soon.

Bigdeadlydave · 15-10-2009 7:31pm

Yeah Mussolini is quite easy too. He gets a much worse rep than he deserves imho

phasers · 15-10-2009 7:47pm

DO NOT try to predict History, they'll throw you a total curveball.

Junior D · 16-10-2009 6:07pm

Doin history also, im just making sure i know case studies inside out. plannin on havin near top marks for project and document and maybe gettin a high B or even A

cweeva · 16-10-2009 7:14pm

Aiming for an A aswell,
I'm just learning the case studies for the Northern Ireland section seeind as that's what our documents question is based on, think thatll be ok?
Doing Dictatorship and Democracy, the United States as well, we havn't full decided on our second Irish topic yet...

phasers · 16-10-2009 8:56pm

Knowing the case studies is a good plan, as generally essays involving them do come up.

Just be sure to have quite a broad knowledge of your topics because learning things under specific essay titles is pretty risky.

16-10-2009 8:58pm

cweeva wrote: »

Aiming for an A aswell,
I'm just learning the case studies for the Northern Ireland section seeind as that's what our documents question is based on, think thatll be ok?
Doing Dictatorship and Democracy, the United States as well, we havn't full decided on our second Irish topic yet...

But...the topic that the documents question is from doesn't come up as an essay question.

Mary007 · 16-10-2009 9:28pm

Haha get this, our teacher wants us to learn the whole syllabus not just two topics from Europe and the Wider world and two from Ireland.:mad:

cweeva · 16-10-2009 10:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

But...the topic that the documents question is from doesn't come up as an essay question.

yeah, which is why i'm only doin the case studies on that section and not the broader general stuff!

Mary007 wrote: »

Haha get this, our teacher wants us to learn the whole syllabus not just two topics from Europe and the Wider world and two from Ireland.

what? that's crazy!! how will you manage that?!

Offside · 16-10-2009 10:16pm

Don't try to predict history, none of the predictions came up last year! I just about got through it... It's a bit of the joke, the course is massive, impossible to learn everything, so you need a degree of luck as well... Most nervous I ever was goin into an exam!

16-10-2009 10:33pm

I stacked up the four books I have for each topic I'm doing for the first time today.

I nearly cried to see how large that pile was. There's so much! And my teacher's pretty slow at getting through the course, so I assumed it wasn't really necessary to know everything. But then I looked over the papers and the essay titles are so specific that you really can't just study a few areas....

LovexxLife · 18-10-2009 7:46pm

do anyone think the Gaa will come up?

amxxs · 19-10-2009 10:41pm

For myself how I'm studying for it is by looking at the past papers and focusing on the essay questions. Each year the same ones come up over and over again like for European History Dictatorship and Democracy a question that keeps repeating itself is Church State Relations (Germany and or Italy) and I'm learning off about three for each Topic we're doing its fairly easy included in that as well is certain key personalities.

What are people thinking of the project?

laura93 · 20-10-2009 1:57pm

My teacher is really confident that The Sunningdale Agreement is going to come up as the document for HL, and I'll probably focus on that and have a general knowledge on the others.
We're in the middle of Dicatorship & Democracy atm, and he only briefly went through Mussolini cause he thinks Stalin & Lenin are more likely to come up.

cli2931 · 20-10-2009 10:28pm

No we were told Mussolini is really likely to come up as he hasn't yet. Still know the rest though I'd say.

NightOwl91 · 27-10-2009 11:42pm

Anyone think Technology of warfare will come up again?
What are peoples predictions for Irish Essays eg Irish civil war etc...
Anyone reckon Irish neutrality during ww2 will come up?
:eek:

theowen · 27-10-2009 11:46pm

NightOwl91 wrote: »

Anyone think Technology of warfare will come up again?
What are peoples predictions for Irish Essays eg Irish civil war etc...
Anyone reckon Irish neutrality during ww2 will come up?
:eek:

For the Irish essays know the factors that contributed to Sinn Fein's success in the 1918 election.

theowen · 27-10-2009 11:48pm

laura93 wrote: »

My teacher is really confident that The Sunningdale Agreement is going to come up as the document for HL, and I'll probably focus on that and have a general knowledge on the others.
We're in the middle of Dicatorship & Democracy atm, and he only briefly went through Mussolini cause he thinks Stalin & Lenin are more likely to come up.

Why is she confident about Sunningdale? It has a 33% chance of coming up:rolleyes:

laura93 · 28-10-2009 1:23am

theowen wrote: »

Why is she confident about Sunningdale? It has a 33% chance of coming up:rolleyes:

He thinks it more of higher level document than the other two or something. Whenever we discuss the exam in class he's like "Study Sunningdale and make sure you know it inside out!!"

TheCandystripes · 28-10-2009 2:47am

jesus someone born in 93 is doing lc:eek:

im pretty ancient doing lc, will be 20 in feb. very old due to a few factors(being sick a bit when i was in primary school)

NightOwl91 · 28-10-2009 11:08am

How confident are they about sunningdale?
TBH, i cant stand Coleraine lol its soooooo boring and id give anything to not do an essay in the leaving cert on it lol:p

laura93 · 28-10-2009 12:18pm

TheCandystripes wrote: »

jesus someone born in 93 is doing lc:eek:

im pretty ancient doing lc, will be 20 in feb. very old due to a few factors(being sick a bit when i was in primary school)

lol
The majority of my year will only be 17 doing the lc, apart from the people who did ty :P

Interzone · 05-01-2010 12:00am

They could hardly have picked a more boring section for the documents, could they?
@OP: There's no way of predicting what will come as a very similar question may come as the year before but requires a very different answer, eg:
What were the causes and effects of German industrialization in the period 1871-1914?
as opposed to: Do you think Germany's industrial growth in the period 1871-1914 was a vital element in the shaping of the European system of alliances in the years preceding WWI?

Both questions have the same central theme but have completely focuses.

Is it just me or are the Irish topics a lot harder (and more boring) than the European ones?

GA361 · 05-01-2010 1:06am

NightOwl91 wrote: »

Anyone think Technology of warfare will come up again?
What are peoples predictions for Irish Essays eg Irish civil war etc...
Anyone reckon Irish neutrality during ww2 will come up?
:eek:

I'd be careful about the technology of warfare. I had it prepared inside out last year. It was defo my best answer. I did it in conjunction with wartime alliances ( an area also prepared very well). I only got 74 in it:eek: It deserved a far better result than that mediocre (correct spelling?

) result. What my history teacher told me is that the marker might have himself been ignorant of this issue as many teachers find it boring and just fly through it. I suppose things balanced themselves out though as I got 93 in the DeValera question which I felt I had done only ok on.

Regarding your q as to whether it will come up again, I think it most probably will as awkward-looking questions have a habit of repeating themselves in history. Also if this question yielded poor results ( which it probably did ) I would say it stands an extremely good chance of coming up next year.

GA361 · 05-01-2010 1:12am

Interzone wrote: »

Is it just me or are the Irish topics a lot harder (and more boring) than the European ones?

I thought that at first but by the begining of the LC I grew to love the Irish options as they were alot easier to revise ( Jaysus I can remember some of the mouthfuls from Dic and Dem- Tuchachevsky,Zinoniev,Yagoda . . . Hitler

)

Sophsxxx · 05-01-2010 2:09am

laura93 wrote: »

lol
The majority of my year will only be 17 doing the lc, apart from the people who did ty :P

I was 16 doing the LC last year myself. Everyone was like "you're so young..don't do it!"
But I ended up repeating anyway so I'll still be 17 doing the leaving.

kev9100 · 05-01-2010 2:11am

Bigdeadlydave wrote: »

Mussolini gets a much worse rep than he deserves imho

eh... are you sure you actually do history?

NufcNavan · 05-01-2010 3:01am

Our history teacher told us not to bother trying to predict. Nobody knows what will come up no matter what people tell you.

We've done plenty of essays over the last year and a half so I'm just going to use them for revision. Aiming for an 'A' in the LC.

K4t · 05-01-2010 1:24pm

Know the case studies inside out. Inside out!

Do a few other chapters in detail and just look over the rest, have a general idea of it.

Emma1992 · 13-03-2010 3:39pm

What about Rise of Sinn Féin, Home Rule or War of independence?
Anyone think that they are likely to come up?

fufureida · 14-03-2010 11:07am

Does anyone know if this is true, do the department say that an essay from 2 of the 3 perspectives will come up definately? Our history teacher told us yet we are still doing all the perspectives. Just wanna know if that's true because if it is I'm sorted for sov and part!

OxfordComma · 14-03-2010 4:26pm

Don't rely too heavily on predictions for History, because it's probably the least predictable paper I can think of. I did my LC last year and an awful lot of people got caught out - several topics came up two years in a row, that kind of thing.

Don't bother learning the entire syllabus, either - there's just not enough time to do so. Try and cover at least 60% of topics on the course, and always make sure you've got plenty of back-up.

Questions on case studies in Sections 2 & 3 are more or less guaranteed, but they generally tend to be so horribly difficult that you won't be able to answer them properly.

Best of luck anyways, it's a pretty rough paper!

FlashGordon1969 · 03-05-2010 4:17pm

Emma1992 wrote: »

What about Rise of Sinn Féin, Home Rule or War of independence?
Anyone think that they are likely to come up?

Im a History teacher-if you cover the period 1912-1923 (inclu civil war) you should be safe enough in the Irish but you would want to know it extensively. In Dic and Dem -know Hitler and Mussolini up to 1939 and you should be safe enough as could you imagine a test on that section that didnt have old Adolf in there somewhere?

Interzone · 04-05-2010 10:22am

If it helps, this is what I will have prepared if everything goes to plan:

Europe top 2:

Bismarck foreign policy
Wilhelm foreign policy
Wilhelm naval policy
Kulturkampf
German economy
Russian economy
Russian revolution

Europe topic 3:

Mussolini rise and office
Rise of Nazi party
Characteristics of Nazi state
Propaganda
British inter war economy
German inter war economy
Third Republic
Vichy state

Ireland topic 2:

Isaac Butt - Formation of HRP and weaknesses as leader
Parnell - role in Land war, rise in HRP, general elections 85 and 86
Fall of Parnell
Redmond - revival of HRP
Rise of Unionism
Strike and Lockout

Doucument:

Sunningdale - one size fits all essay
Coleraine - one size fits all
ABOD - tension
ABOD - cultural importance

as you can see, I think concentrating mostly on politic and administration can get me through

MarkDurc · 12-05-2010 7:50pm

Was just wondering does anybody have an essay on McCarthyism or somewhere i can get information? Book is not very helpful. Think its worth studying, has appeared both years USA has been set as a question

LC2010HIS · 13-05-2010 9:37am

Im stuck on 1916 rising causes and consequences.
And Cumann ng. When theres an essay on "how did cumann ng est law and order" - do i list
1.constitution
2.Garda siochana
3.Army mutiny ?

Is that all for law and order or...?
Please help me

Thank u!

fufureida · 13-05-2010 12:53pm

Interzone wrote: »

If it helps, this is what I will have prepared if everything goes to plan:

Europe top 2:
Bismarck foreign policy

Wilhelm foreign policy

Wilhelm naval policy

Kulturkampf

German economy

Russian economy

Russian revolution

Europe topic 3:
Mussolini rise and office

Rise of Nazi party

Characteristics of Nazi state

Propaganda

British inter war economy

German inter war economy

Third Republic

Vichy state

Ireland topic 2:
Isaac Butt - Formation of HRP and weaknesses as leader

Parnell - role in Land war, rise in HRP, general elections 85 and 86

Fall of Parnell

Redmond - revival of HRP

Rise of Unionism

Strike and Lockout

Doucument:
Sunningdale - one size fits all essay

Coleraine - one size fits all

ABOD - tension

ABOD - cultural importance

as you can see, I think concentrating mostly on politic and administration can get me through

Can I see ur one size fits all essays?

neilquiksilver · 28-05-2010 2:49pm

Ireland 1912-1949:

Economic achievements of cumman na ngaedhael 1923-1932

anglo irish relations 1923-1932

fianna fail cumman na ngaedhael combo (anglo irish relations or economic policy, which was the greater success)

Dictatorship & Democracy:

church state relations ( never came up yet)

domestic policy of hitler

foreign policy of hitler (1933-1939)

Mussolini rise and in power

The purges and show trials

fascism in europe (inter war years)

America:

what contributed to the boom (1945-1969)

technology of warfare

civil rights movement

moon landing (outside chance)

Vietnam: factors that contributed to vietnam, why did they get invovled and pull out

Document:

SUNNINGDALE INSIDE OUT!!!!!!!

fufureida · 28-05-2010 5:14pm

Anyone got an essay plan or points to cover for the causes and consequences if the 1916 Easter rising? This hasn't come up in awhile and is one of the three that I am covering. And I really need help.

theowen · 28-05-2010 7:17pm

fufureida wrote: »

Anyone got an essay plan or points to cover for the causes and consequences if the 1916 Easter rising? This hasn't come up in awhile and is one of the three that I am covering. And I really need help.

1. Intro. i usually write about the passing of the Home Rule Bill and how it was delayed due to ww!. And then about Redmond and his volunteers.
2. Split in the Volunteers. describe what happened. MacNeill Volunteers, how many, Link=seed from which the plans for the rising would develop.
3. IRb
4. Pierse. I throw in 3 pretty hefty quotes from him which tend to get good marks.
5. UVF. Made Irish men in the south unsure of whether home rule would work. Needed something more drastic.
6. Mcneill. What he said about the Rising. Conditions needed for the Rising. castle Document. Now there was a sizeable army for the rising.
7. Aud captured. McNeill called everything off. IRB meet. Rising planned for Monday.
8. Preparations of the rebels. Positions taken. DeV in Boland's mill etc.
9. What happened. Sir General Maxwell, Helga etc.

consequences

irish people not content with just home rule
Growth of sinn fein
Victory in by elections: Plunkett, McGuiness and Dev
those who had spent time in the prisons became more republican
etc. You can go on forever for the consequences:p

fufureida · 28-05-2010 9:19pm

Thanks, will try and makeup an essay...

Victoria. · 29-05-2010 10:06am

I'm so scared for history its insane!
Keep on thinking you know what if my topics don't come up. Hate the way the course is so long and you actually have no choice but to abandon certain chapters that could come up

KillaNinja · 31-05-2010 1:00am

i predict......

ireland: persuit of soverignty:
1. sinn fein 1918
2. rising
3. cumann na ngaedheal
4. eucharistic congress or NI in war

noren ironed :P
suninngdale... biach

dict + demo:
1. mulolini fool/ italy fool
2. somthing on germany (including church) - without a doubt
3. red terror or show trials
4. anglo-american pop cultre (although i wont be learning it :P)

america: (a bit harder to predict so this is just a pure guess)
1.affluence or post war boom
2. moon landing (hasnt been seen sinse 2006)
3. proberbly some foreign policy thing
4. colapse of consensus maybe?

so thats it... lets hope i at least get somthing right :P

NufcNavan · 31-05-2010 1:49am

KillaNinja wrote: »

i predict......

ireland: persuit of soverignty:
1. sinn fein 1918
2. rising
3. cumann na ngaedheal
4. eucharistic congress or NI in war

noren ironed :P
suninngdale... biach

dict + demo:
1. mulolini fool/ italy fool
2. somthing on germany (including church) - without a doubt
3. red terror or show trials
4. anglo-american pop cultre (although i wont be learning it :P)

america: (a bit harder to predict so this is just a pure guess)
1.affluence or post war boom
2. moon landing (hasnt been seen sinse 2006)
3. proberbly some foreign policy thing
4. colapse of consensus maybe?

so thats it... lets hope i at least get somthing right :P

If that comes up, I'll be very happy.

hokeypokey · 31-05-2010 12:26pm

if you study the case studies and go into loads of detail about them you'll be grand. the case studies are the most important thing in my opinion...

Da Shins Kelly · 31-05-2010 3:03pm

For the Ireland section, culture, religion and language are pretty much guarantees every year. The Eucharistic Congress being the case study with that one. There is always something to do with culture. I'm also studying the Anglo-Irish Treaty, Cumman na nGaedheal and Fianna Fail in power (social and economic policies) and maybe the 1916 Rising. Leaving a lot out, but there's just waaay too much stuff on Ireland.

As far as Europe, I'm studying Russia, Italy and Germany. Again, I'm chancing my arm and leaving out Britain. It's a risk, but I just don't have the time at this stage so I have to start picking a choosing what I'm gonna study. If Britain comes up, I'll just wing it and write whatever I can remember about Jarrow.

For America, I'm really hoping for Vietnam, but I'm gonna go over the moon landing too. Leaving out Montgomery, that was the document question last year. I'm just gonna basically go over US foreign policy.

It's impossible to predict what will come up in the exam and the quesitons are often worded a bit weirdly. I'm hoping for Vietnam, something on Russia and the Eucharistic Congress anyway. For the document question, I'll be very surprised if it's not Sunningdale.

dyeti · 31-05-2010 7:38pm

I thought I'd be fine for History, but pre-LC stress is getting to me!!! Think I'll be ok with this?

Irish:
Eucharistic Congress
Sunningdale
Apprentice Boys
Coleraine
Civil War/Anglo Irish treaty
Ireland during WW2
War of Independence

Dic and Dem:
Literally every chapter except France learned off like the back of my hand

America:
Military technology
Civil Rights movement (incl. social-urban problems)
Vietnam
Domestic factors influencing foreign policy

And for America that's pretty much it...! Not arsed doing anything else for it as these 4 cover a lot!

luv-eirexx · 31-05-2010 9:39pm

Ok i know this sounds soo stupid to ask like a week before the lc but what is the collapse of consensus in american history???!! . . .Never heard of it!!! . . .Thanks!!:D

Leaving Cert History 2010

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