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turtle beach px21 best place to buy ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    Gallus wrote: »
    Don't most modern tv not have AV out RCA connection?
    Why not use these instead of buying a new cable for no reason...

    because the headphones dont connect to the tv as far as i can see on the diagram they connect to the xbox so they can be used to speak hear and so you can easily manage voice and in game sound levels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Vorrtexx


    Can you hook the 3.5mm jack on the PX21's into the headphones port on your TV to get the sound?

    The HDMI will transfer the AV to your TV and then you can feed off the audio from the headphones port from your TV?

    I've had the older model P21's for about 6 months for the PS3. As far as I understand they replaced the RCA connectors on the P21's with a single 3.5mm jack. What I was doing with the PS3 was using the HDMI for both Audio and Video. Then I put a RCA to 3.5mm adapter onto the P21's RCA plugs and stuck the 3.5mm jack into the headphones port on my TV. The sounds was much better when using the HDMI too compared to the composite cables.

    I'd imagine it would be something similar on the XBOX too.


    Edit: View the attached diagram to see what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    Vorrtexx wrote: »
    Can you hook the 3.5mm jack on the PX21's into the headphones port on your TV to get the sound?

    The HDMI will transfer the AV to your TV and then you can feed off the audio from the headphones port from your TV?

    I've had the older model P21's for about 6 months for the PS3. As far as I understand they replaced the RCA connectors on the P21's with a single 3.5mm jack. What I was doing with the PS3 was using the HDMI for both Audio and Video. Then I put a RCA to 3.5mm adapter onto the P21's RCA plugs and stuck the 3.5mm jack into the headphones port on my TV. The sounds was much better when using the HDMI too compared to the composite cables.

    I'd imagine it would be something similar on the XBOX too.


    Edit: View the attached diagram to see what I mean.

    but it would only function as a set of headphones then not as a speaker as well if you get me ? the usb plug in part powers it and then theres to seperate wires that go into the xbox one is for audio input and one is for audio output . by plugging it straight into the tv i lose the ability to smack talk 10 year olds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭Vorrtexx


    I think there's a separate cable that connects the inline audio turtle beach control to the xbox controller for voice communication though?

    I'm just going based on the manual here (page 6)
    http://www.turtlebeach.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=%2bkPRTc8b4IM%3d&tabid=743


    As far as I know, voice comm on the xbox happens from the controller and not the ports at the back of the console. they're output ports only. (could be wrong here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    I dont think so due to the opti out on the xbox , i'm not an expert with the ins and outs but that is why there were different models for the 360.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    tell you what lads ill be grabbing a set this week when i get paid again and ill grab the cable too. if i can get it hooked up with or without it ill tell you all straight away to save everyone else the hassle :) but i guess we wont know untill someone tries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    sierra117x wrote: »
    tell you what lads ill be grabbing a set this week when i get paid again and ill grab the cable too. if i can get it hooked up with or without it ill tell you all straight away to save everyone else the hassle :) but i guess we wont know untill someone tries

    Hi, good luck with finding a pair !!
    Let us know if you do though !!!
    I'm itching for them aswell now....
    The Edge !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Hedman


    You don't need the extra cable, i picked up a set of the x31s and just plugged the red and white audio leads into the back of the tv. The mic works perfectly fine like this.

    If you have something already going into the audio out jacks on the tv then i wouldn't waste 20 quid on the official Microsoft lead, you'll pick one up on eBay for around 6 quid incl P+P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    Hedman wrote: »
    You don't need the extra cable, i picked up a set of the x31s and just plugged the red and white audio leads into the back of the tv. The mic works perfectly fine like this.

    If you have something already going into the audio out jacks on the tv then i wouldn't waste 20 quid on the official Microsoft lead, you'll pick one up on eBay for around 6 quid incl P+P

    ha ha where where you a week ago mate ! all right ill see if i can get my hands on another set tonight and give it a try and let you know . admitadly i didnt actually try them out i just trusted the squigley drawing that came with them :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    Hedman wrote: »
    You don't need the extra cable, i picked up a set of the x31s and just plugged the red and white audio leads into the back of the tv. The mic works perfectly fine like this.

    If you have something already going into the audio out jacks on the tv then i wouldn't waste 20 quid on the official Microsoft lead, you'll pick one up on eBay for around 6 quid incl P+P

    Please post a pic/desciption of your setup ....
    Pretty please :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Hedman


    claiva wrote: »
    Please post a pic/desciption of your setup ....
    Pretty please :D


    You mean my whole set up or just the headphones?

    If it's the whole set up it's just a 32" tv, nothing special. The x31s are wireless so the wireless transmitter is plugged into the usb at the back of the xbox, then the audio leads go from the transmitter to the audio out at the back of the tv. The headphones themselves plug into the controller.

    My only gripe with them so far is that they eat through the batteries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    Hedman wrote: »
    You mean my whole set up or just the headphones?

    If it's the whole set up it's just a 32" tv, nothing special. The x31s are wireless so the wireless transmitter is plugged into the usb at the back of the xbox, then the audio leads go from the transmitter to the audio out at the back of the tv. The headphones themselves plug into the controller.

    My only gripe with them so far is that they eat through the batteries.

    Hi, there seems to be conflicting reports that a seperate HDMI AV cable is needed to connect them if your Xbox is connected to your TV with the HDMI lead. I just want to see someones set up so I can see exactly which cables are used etc.

    I heard the wireless ones are savage on batteries, Hutch mentions that in one of his vids on YouTube.
    I'm gonna go for a wired pair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    claiva wrote: »
    Hi, there seems to be conflicting reports that a seperate HDMI AV cable is needed to connect them if your Xbox is connected to your TV with the HDMI lead. I just want to see someones set up so I can see exactly which cables are used etc.

    I heard the wireless ones are savage on batteries, Hutch mentions that in one of his vids on YouTube.
    I'm gonna go for a wired pair.


    Is your controller wired ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    Shammy wrote: »
    Is your controller wired ?

    No Shammy, but I have the play and charge kit which is great.
    I have two other controllers that I use rechargeable batteries in but its a pain in the ass recharging batteries all the time.....I suppose I could use them for the headset aswell.

    The wireless ones are a bit out of my range at the minute though..pricewise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Gallus


    claiva wrote: »
    Hi, there seems to be conflicting reports that a seperate HDMI AV cable is needed to connect them if your Xbox is connected to your TV with the HDMI lead. I just want to see someones set up so I can see exactly which cables are used etc.

    I heard the wireless ones are savage on batteries, Hutch mentions that in one of his vids on YouTube.
    I'm gonna go for a wired pair.

    Just use the audio out function on the back of your TV.
    It doesn't make a blind bit of differnece if you take the audio before it goes into the TV or after it leaves through the back. The only difference is it might be amplified from your TVs internal amp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    claiva wrote: »
    Hi, there seems to be conflicting reports that a seperate HDMI AV cable is needed to connect them if your Xbox is connected to your TV with the HDMI lead. I just want to see someones set up so I can see exactly which cables are used etc.

    I heard the wireless ones are savage on batteries, Hutch mentions that in one of his vids on YouTube.
    I'm gonna go for a wired pair.


    http://www.limexb360.co.uk/product/X...ter_XB-HDMI-AV you need that for the turtle beaches , if you want to play hd , it used to come with the xboxes before but not anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    Hedman wrote: »
    You mean my whole set up or just the headphones?

    If it's the whole set up it's just a 32" tv, nothing special. The x31s are wireless so the wireless transmitter is plugged into the usb at the back of the xbox, then the audio leads go from the transmitter to the audio out at the back of the tv. The headphones themselves plug into the controller.

    My only gripe with them so far is that they eat through the batteries.

    thats the problem im not using the x31's i want a wired set so i dont maul through batteries. everything else i use both xbox and other wise is either on a play and charge basis or rechargeable batteries. and the second option is a last resort i cant stand it but way easier than going to buy batteries every 2 weeks . therefore if i can avoid it ill be using the wired option :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    Shammy wrote: »
    http://www.limexb360.co.uk/product/X...ter_XB-HDMI-AV you need that for the turtle beaches , if you want to play hd , it used to come with the xboxes before but not anymore.

    You can get that in Game on Dawson St (Dublin) for 12.98 at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    claiva wrote: »
    You can get that in Game on Dawson St (Dublin) for 12.98 at the moment.

    Excellent!! Must try to pick it up. I'll have HDMI & headset gaming for when my 360 returns!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Gallus


    Shammy wrote: »
    http://www.limexb360.co.uk/product/X...ter_XB-HDMI-AV you need that for the turtle beaches , if you want to play hd , it used to come with the xboxes before but not anymore.

    Waste of money... but people seem set on using this solution when its not needed.
    The only need I can see for using that cable would be if you wanted to send audio to an external audio receiver when your TV did not have audio ouputs or an old AV receiver with no hdmi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Can you explain your setup in layman's terms? A photo/diagram etc would be perfect. Think Claiva already asked for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Gallus wrote: »
    Waste of money... but people seem set on using this solution when its not needed.
    The only need I can see for using that cable would be if you wanted to send audio to an external audio receiver when your TV did not have audio ouputs or an old AV receiver with no hdmi.

    By doing it through the xbox (opti-out) you can have the volume in the tv off and do the adjusting from your headset.

    Dont know how voice chat would work doing it your way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Gallus


    If you look on the back of your tv there should be a red and white connectors(marked audio OUT, not to be confused with the audio IN which will look the same), the same that are on the cable that was posted above. These can be used for your turtle beach to get audio to play through the headphones.
    By buying the above cable all you are doing is taking the audio before it goes to the TV. I don't see a need for this as the control of ingame chat/audio volume for the headphones is primarily controlled by the amp/control box of the turtle beaches(small white box on wire).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Gallus wrote: »
    If you look on the back of your tv there should be a red and white connectors(marked audio OUT, not to be confused with the audio IN which will look the same), the same that are on the cable that was posted above. These can be used for your turtle beach to get audio to play through the headphones.
    By buying the above cable all you are doing is taking the audio before it goes to the TV. I don't see a need for this as the control of ingame chat/audio volume for the headphones is primarily controlled by the amp/control box of the turtle beaches(small white box on wire).


    Works a treat , like he said above make sure its marked audio out and your laughing .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Gallus


    Shammy wrote: »
    By doing it through the xbox (opti-out) you can have the volume in the tv off and do the adjusting from your headset.

    Dont know how voice chat would work doing it your way

    Most modern TV will have an optical out connection on the TV which will do the same thing, if you want to use the optical connection. Can also use the rca(red/white) connection and then there should be an option in the TV sound menu to play sound through a receiver which will have the same effect as well.

    These are output connections has nothing to do with the voice chat.
    That is handled by the xbox(usb/wire connection from turtle beach amp to wireless controller) and then outputed to the TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    Shammy wrote: »
    Works a treat , like he said above make sure its marked audio out and your laughing .

    Cool. Now we are getting places.
    I'll have a look at the back of my Tv tonight....
    Thanks lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    I'll have to have a look at the headsets when I get home to try and get a handle on this. Cheers lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    claiva wrote: »
    Cool. Now we are getting places.
    I'll have a look at the back of my Tv tonight....
    Thanks lads

    My old hd tv (4 years old) didnt have the option , the hd tv in the living room (2 years old) doesnt have the option , but i bought a new one recently and it has the audio out option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Shammy wrote: »
    My old hd tv (4 years old) didnt have the option , the hd tv in the living room (2 years old) doesnt have the option , but i bought a new one recently and it has the audio out option.

    Ah, okay. I'll check both of mine out. So basically if you have an Audio Out, you don't need that HDMI cable set.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    shawpower wrote: »
    Ah, okay. I'll check both of mine out. So basically if you have an Audio Out, you don't need that HDMI cable set.


    Yup thats right.


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