The Iceland Volcano Thread

Diving Board · 18-04-2010 08:00PM

Carole Coleman interviewing Icelandic scientist this morning...
Why did you not do anything to prevent this...could you not have doused the volcano down with water or something?

So will the Icelandic government be paying compensation for lost income to the airlines..? (Im paraphrasing her questions)

roryc1 · 18-04-2010 08:06PM

Diving Board wrote: »

Carole Coleman interviewing Icelandic scientist this morning...
Why did you not do anything to prevent this...could you not have doused the volcano down with water or something?

So will the Icelandic government be paying compensation for lost income to the airlines..? (Im paraphrasing her questions)

I nearly crashed the car listening to her, one of the funnest interview i have ever heard in years, she should stick to the economics,

peasant · 18-04-2010 08:06PM

Su Campu wrote: »

I must say, for a country with such a small population and such a harsh existence, they really have their house in order when it comes to seismic monitoring!

you would too if you were living on a volcano and you had the choice of being gassed, drowned , fried or suffocated the next minute without warning

snow ghost · 18-04-2010 08:08PM

Diving Board wrote: »

Carole Coleman interviewing Icelandic scientist this morning...
Why did you not do anything to prevent this...could you not have doused the volcano down with water or something?

Doused a volcano with water! :eek: By any chance is she blonde and a descendant of king Canute?

Deep Easterly · 18-04-2010 08:09PM

Su Campu wrote: »

I must say, for a country with such a small population and such a harsh existence, they really have their house in order when it comes to seismic monitoring!

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/

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Icelandic met office one of the best in Europe imo. Like their Norwegian counterparts, they have a free policy of quality data. Despite their isolation and severe financial strain, there is obvious effort being pumped into scientific meteorological services as well as others. Puts our own met office to shame. Not that I blame them. What it does reflect is just what a tight arsed government and rulership we really have.

maquiladora · 18-04-2010 08:10PM

UK restrictions extended to 7pm tomorrow.

Su Campu · 18-04-2010 08:10PM

snow ghost wrote: »

Doused a volcano with water! :eek: By any chance is she blonde and a descendant of king Canute?

It's the fecking water from the melted glacier that has us in this situation in the first place!!! :rolleyes: are you sure this wasn't some sort of wind-up? She couldn't have been serious!

baalthor · 18-04-2010 08:11PM

Diving Board wrote: »

Carole Coleman interviewing Icelandic scientist this morning...
Why did you not do anything to prevent this...could you not have doused the volcano down with water or something?

Aw come on ... no one could be that dumb ... could they ??

Mind you another RTE reporter suggested we use the Naval Service to move people! I'm surprised Enda Kenny hasn't called for the aircraft carrier to be mobilised :-D

Munster_Gal · 18-04-2010 08:12PM

Diving Board wrote: »

Carole Coleman interviewing Icelandic scientist this morning...
Why did you not do anything to prevent this...could you not have doused the volcano down with water or something?

So will the Icelandic government be paying compensation for lost income to the airlines..? (Im paraphrasing her questions)

OMG Are you serious!!!!!!!!!! Where can I hear the interview?

owenc · 18-04-2010 08:13PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Yes, I was wondering if that thin veil of cloud approaching the north coast might be something? Is there any cloud (high white) to your north Owen?

oh aye have just noticed that there now, it is very rare looking its as if its raining as there is a layer of hazy cloud or something at the top layer then there is like a layer below that of black wall or something.. very hard to describe really rare anyway!

snow ghost · 18-04-2010 08:18PM

Su Campu wrote: »

It's the fecking water from the melted glacier that has us in this situation in the first place!!! :rolleyes: are you sure this wasn't some sort of wind-up? She couldn't have been serious!

Didn't hear the interview Su, if she was serious she should be sacked for such stupidity.

Now that the sun has gone down the horizon is a deep rusty orange - which isn't the usual - it's usual pinky red, etc.

delw · 18-04-2010 08:24PM

Su Campu wrote: »

Previous planes to have problems with ash have were flying fairly close to the source - Moody's flight in '82 was affected by severe St Elmo's fire before the engines shut down, which illustrates that. And planes take off in sand and dust storms, part of which contains silica, all the time in desert areas without problem.

I welcome the utmost caution taken by the authorities this weekend, they were right to do sit it out and see what happened. But in reality what has happened? Nothing. No coverings of volcanic ash as predicted (yes there were some reports in England but not what you'd call much). QUOTE]
SU dont Ryanair(i know dey suspended flights till Wed)& Air Fungus hav a turnaround of between 35&60 mins at dublin which would mean alot of hours in the air per day,so how would the engines&body be after that much flight time in ash clouds do u think?

mickger844posts · 18-04-2010 08:25PM

snow ghost wrote: »

Now that the sun has gone down the horizon is a deep rusty orange - which isn't the usual - it's usual pinky red, etc.

I saw that here too, was really an orange amazing sunset like i've never seen before.

Sponge Bob · 18-04-2010 08:26PM

snow ghost wrote: »

Didn't hear the interview Su, if she was serious she should be sacked for such stupidity.

Now that the sun has gone down the horizon is a deep rusty orange - which isn't the usual - it's usual pinky red, etc.

What time was Carole Coleman on and was it RTE1 Radio ???

If between 11am and 1 pm it was the Marion finucane program here

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_marianfinucane.xml

sunbabe08 · 18-04-2010 08:32PM

roryc1 wrote: »

I nearly crashed the car listening to her, one of the funnest interview i have ever heard in years, she should stick to the economics,

she should do some research:rolleyes:

slap the woman silly for such a stupid question

what was the scientist's response?

peasant · 18-04-2010 08:37PM

nacho libre wrote: »

well isn't it better to take the chance and see if it goes wrong. what do the experts know anyway. it's worth the risk so airlines can get back to making money.
afterall people merely exist to serve an economy not the other way around.

Even if airlines didn't give a hoot about passenger safety (which I doubt) you can bet your behind that they do worry about their precious planes.

What good would it be to them to get all their planes in the air only to find them all queueing for maintenance the next day because the ash did do some damage after all?

I don't think they are taking this lightly when they are questioning the current restrictions.

Diving Board · 18-04-2010 08:38PM

sunbabe08 wrote: »

she should do some research:rolleyes:

slap the woman silly for such a stupid question

what was the scientist's response?

I think he was trying hard not to laugh.

nacho libre · 18-04-2010 08:45PM

peasant wrote: »

Even if airlines didn't give a hoot about passenger safety (which I doubt) you can bet your behind that they do worry about their precious planes.

What good would it be to them to get all their planes in the air only to find them all queueing for maintenance the next day because the ash did do some damage after all?

I don't think they are taking this lightly when they are questioning the current restrictions.

well perhaps they figure it's worth the risk. they obviously don't forsee major damage occurring to their planes. yet if i was a passenger i wouldn't be putting my trust in them as to the safety of flying. if there is even a slight risk to human live it's too great in my opinion.

dave_connolly3 · 18-04-2010 08:55PM

What time was the Carol Coleman interview on?
Was it radio 1?

Rougies · 18-04-2010 08:55PM

andrew wrote: »

Sorry to quote such a big pic, but any chance someone could interpret this for us? How significant are the increasing peaks to the right of the graph as opposed to the ones to the left?

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/eyja_trem_auto.png

To add to the explanations by others. ... here's the location codes to the above graph (updated every 10mins).

god = Godabunga
esk = Eystri-Skogar
mid = Mid-Mork
hvo = Lagu-Hvolar
hau = Haukadalur

You can see where they are in relation to the volcanos on this map...
http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/Myrdalsjokull.jpg ...look for the the black triangles (SIL-Stöðvar ... SIL: The Icelandic seismic network ...Stöðvar: Stations)

NOTE ... Haukadalur is off the above map to the Northwest.

Full map with all stations available here....
http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/englishweb/tremor.html

18-04-2010 08:55PM

It's been cloudy here most of the day, but about an hour ago it cleared up enough to see the moon. The moon was bright and white so there appears to be no ash over this part of the world right now.

Su Campu · 18-04-2010 09:04PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Icelandic met office one of the best in Europe imo. Like their Norwegian counterparts, they have a free policy of quality data. Despite their isolation and severe financial strain, there is obvious effort being pumped into scientific meteorological services as well as others. Puts our own met office to shame. Not that I blame them. What it does reflect is just what a tight arsed government and rulership we really have.

For example, look at the freely available data they have in their Aviation section. I got slated by Met Eireann for posting their equivalent charts on here from their (free) subscription service. The UKMO is also a subscription. I don't see why these charts should be witheld from the public, if someone knows how to read them they should be allowed to. We do pay for them in taxes, afterall.

maquiladora · 18-04-2010 09:07PM

British Airways chief Willie Walsh was on the BA 747 test flight this evening. :rolleyes:

M.T. Cranium · 18-04-2010 09:12PM

No, I didn't imagine that the volcano was set off but it just happened to provide a very convenient and plausible reason for all those world leaders to avoid a tricky situation. For example, several days ago it was mentioned on Netweather that the Canadian government's challenger jet for the head of state was reportedly flying into Heathrow and was about the only aircraft in the air space at that point in time. I guess what I meant was, it seems rather odd that the public are now being prepped to expect a change in the flight restriction regime even though the volcanic ash clouds are not likely to decrease for many more days.

You can tell there is something more behind this change of heart in terms of going to attend the funeral in Poland, because Angela Merkel cancelled out and she could almost walk to Cracow.

But really, how difficult would it have been to fly these leaders to Budapest or Vienna and take them on by ground travel? I came to the conclusion they wanted to avoid some risky or nasty situation (like having to make small talk with each other, probably).

But we'll see, as the economic pressure mounts the airlines may try some freight runs and short-duration flights or try opening up the edges of the no-fly zones, and play things by ear.

Rougies · 18-04-2010 09:13PM

maquiladora wrote: »

British Airways chief Willie Walsh was on the BA 747 test flight this evening. :rolleyes:

What am I missing here?

rebel girl 15 · 18-04-2010 09:14PM

Tristram wrote: »

Am I correct in saying that all the test flights by carriers so far have occurred at relatively low altitudes? If so, what flights would possibly be given the green light to go ahead?

Think it the flight I was watching this morning was between 5-20 thousand feet, I agree with the other posters saying that it is too dangerous. There was a link to an article regarding the Finnish testing which showed pictures of F18's that flew through the ash, with quite a bit of damage. 99 planes may go up and com down safely, but the 100th one might not - I know there is disruption, but its better to be safe than sorry

Wasn't that BA CEO with Aer Lingus a year ago??

lucernarian · 18-04-2010 09:18PM

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

No, I didn't imagine that the volcano was set off but it just happened to provide a very convenient and plausible reason for all those world leaders to avoid a tricky situation. For example, several days ago it was mentioned on Netweather that the Canadian government's challenger jet for the head of state was reportedly flying into Heathrow and was about the only aircraft in the air space at that point in time. I guess what I meant was, it seems rather odd that the public are now being prepped to expect a change in the flight restriction regime even though the volcanic ash clouds are not likely to decrease for many more days.

You can tell there is something more behind this change of heart in terms of going to attend the funeral in Poland, because Angela Merkel cancelled out and she could almost walk to Cracow.

But really, how difficult would it have been to fly these leaders to Budapest or Vienna and take them on by ground travel? I came to the conclusion they wanted to avoid some risky or nasty situation (like having to make small talk with each other, probably).

But we'll see, as the economic pressure mounts the airlines may try some freight runs and short-duration flights or try opening up the edges of the no-fly zones, and play things by ear.

I take it you haven't heard of Angela Merkel attempts to travel back to Berlin from Los Angeles over the last couple of days?

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/319327,news-merkels-60-hour-epic-journey-home--feature.html (I have never heard of earthtimes.org but I read the story somewhere else and I had to google it again.)

In volcano news, seismic activity has been rather heightened over much of today and has increased further in the last half hour or so but all the same, no predictions can really be made on the back of just that. Are there any webcams operating at the moment which might show what's going on?

Figuramatyi · 18-04-2010 09:33PM

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html

It is going mental atm!!

To the conspiracy guy: Austrian/Hungarian air space is closed since Friday. The last open countries are Greece/South of Spain/South of Italy etc, all at least 48 hrs land travel away from Krakow. I know Europe is far from Canada, but trust as: even Merkel had no chance to get to Poland by time. Don't even mention Obama. You're pretty paranoid this time.

nacho libre · 18-04-2010 09:38PM

Rougies wrote: »

What am I missing here?

he is showing leadership.... in other words if it's safe for him to fly it's safe for everyone else:rolleyes:

IvySlayer · 18-04-2010 09:47PM

I really wish the Katla webcam was working.

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