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The Iceland Volcano Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭hotwhiskey


    Ok lets get things into perspective here!

    We a have KLM doing test flights here along with some German airliner so far the are saying everything is OK, no problem, Its safe. Now we have situation rising were money is taking over from safety. Already we have seen what damage it has done to a Finnish fighter jet.

    I was waiting for this day when the airlines took matters into there own hands and giving out false indications that everything is fine, Money, Money, Money.

    In 1912 the people were told the Titanic was unsinkable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭AmberAmber


    hotwhiskey wrote: »
    Ok lets get things into perspective here!

    We a have KLM doing test flights here along with some German airliner so far the are saying everything is OK, no problem, Its safe. Now we have situation rising were money is taking over from safety. Already we have seen what damage it has done to a Finnish fighter jet.

    I was waiting for this day when the airlines took matters into there own hands and giving out false indications that everything is fine, Money, Money, Money.

    In 1912 the people were told the Titanic was unsinkable.

    very good point made there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/ looks as if it's raining...hope the sister isn't after blowing :rolleyes: :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Im stuck in Dubai cos of this poxy ash cloud. The next avaialbe flight from the emirates is 11 days away. So we've booked ourselves onto an Air Arabia flight to Istanbul and from there we hope to make our way back across europe by trains/buses/hitchiking...or if the ash cloud lifts it will be much easier to get a flight to dublin from that part of europe than from the emirates.

    Everyday checking back but its jut not getting better :mad:

    Edit- thats good news from KLM, fingers crossed.

    I'll swap places with ya, I'm supposed to be going there tuesday!

    Seriously though, sounds a nightmare, best of luck. Hopefully things are looking up with those test results


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭Yrag2E


    all flights cancelled for tomorrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dloob


    What are the effects of not having the airplane contrails? or will the general effect of the dust etc counteract any effects

    During 911 the lack of contrails resulted in slightly warmer temperatures during the daytime and slightly colder temperatures at night in areas of heavy air traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dloob


    kevin12345 wrote: »
    http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/ looks as if it's raining...hope the sister isn't after blowing :rolleyes: :eek:

    I think that camera is downwind of the volcano you can see ash falling on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    me hole would i be going up in the air on the word of safety from airlines losing millions a day. You could fly 100 planes through it and land 99 safely. But there's always the chance of that one plane that could be affected or hit a pocket of denser ash. Not worth the risk. I'm glad actually. No planes waking me up in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    Really important question here: should I be hanging my clothes outside in the east :-):-)
    .
    Above poster completely right on about klm. Money before safety, they blamed a computer in london for its theoretical forecast for airspaces being closed. It is shifting nature of ash clouds that makes it dangerous. Anyway they flew the tests at 5000ft and 7000ft, which isnt much help really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Supposed to be flying home next Saturday. Hope things clear up and flights can resume safely as soon as possible!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    hotwhiskey wrote: »
    Ok lets get things into perspective here!

    I was waiting for this day when the airlines took matters into there own hands and giving out false indications that everything is fine, Money, Money, Money.

    In 1912 the people were told the Titanic was unsinkable.

    Sorry for Off-Topic
    I remember reading an interview in TIME magazine some years ago with a former head of whatever the Air Safety organistion is in the states.She said that the airlines attitude to safety (and maintenance) after finding that many airlines with a large number of their fleet was that the cost of maintaining was far more expensive then if a plane went down. Say for instance the cost of yearly maintenance was $10million as oppossed to a flight going down being $5million*. She (If I remember correctly) resigned after she could not get any kind of change implemented
    *Those figures are nor the actual figures but used as an example.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,772 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Im very worred as to what KLM are up to . . .
    KLM chief executive Peter Hartman, who was on board the plane, said there was "nothing unusual" about the flight.

    "If the technical examination confirms this... we then hope to get permission as soon as possible to partially restart our operations," he added.


    Volcanic ash spreads more travel misery across Europe


    Seriously, after one test flight?! I know this is having a huge impact on airlines pockets, but more analyses should be done first - especially by non-corporate bodies such as Air Forces . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Hoho - German airlines have been kicking up, questioning the accuracy of the ash advisories etc. etc.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63H07L20100418?type=marketsNews

    I can understand their frustration and questions about measurements etc. but I'm not sure they're the most independent people to provide them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    Has anyone noticed a reaction to the ash? The WHO say reactions are itchy eyes, runny nose, sore throat. I've had all three since last Wednesday and thought it was hayfever although I've never had hayfever before. Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been suffering from the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    M.Pool wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed a reaction to the ash? The WHO say reactions are itchy eyes, runny nose, sore throat. I've had all three since last Wednesday and thought it was hayfever although I've never had hayfever before. Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been suffering from the same?

    Touch of a sore throat myself. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,772 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    M.Pool wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed a reaction to the ash? The WHO say reactions are itchy eyes, runny nose, sore throat. I've had all three since last Wednesday and thought it was hayfever although I've never had hayfever before. Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been suffering from the same?

    It isn't the ash anyway, there was none falling over Ireland on Wednesday as far as I am aware!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    M.Pool wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed a reaction to the ash? The WHO say reactions are itchy eyes, runny nose, sore throat. I've had all three since last Wednesday and thought it was hayfever although I've never had hayfever before. Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been suffering from the same?

    Exaggerate much? Maybe it's a touch of manflu. There's no ashfall over Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Am I correct in saying that all the test flights by carriers so far have occurred at relatively low altitudes? If so, what flights would possibly be given the green light to go ahead?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Looking at the latest webcam images it seems to have gone quiet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Kippure


    Confab wrote: »
    Exaggerate much? Maybe it's a touch of manflu. There's no ashfall over Ireland.


    There is ash fall over ireland. Go outside and look at the cars on your street. It started on friday night. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    ...and Met Eireann are telling us that there is no ash falling here still. Maybe it is hayfever, maybe I'm allergic to the sunshine ;) just seems too much of a coincidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    Confab wrote: »
    Exaggerate much? Maybe it's a touch of manflu. There's no ashfall over Ireland.

    :D maybe womanflu!!!!!! Not given to exaggeration


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Confab wrote: »
    Exaggerate much? Maybe it's a touch of manflu. There's no ashfall over Ireland.

    yes there is ash, it was confirmed that ash fell over northern ireland anyway, why would they shut the airports otherwise in uk and ireland??? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    M.Pool wrote: »
    ...and Met Eireann are telling us that there is no ash falling here still. Maybe it is hayfever, maybe I'm allergic to the sunshine ;) just seems too much of a coincidence.

    Seeing as the eruption only started Wednesday afternoon and it took 24hrs for the first of the ash to reach anywhere near here, simple cause and effect would dictate that if you had the symptoms Wednesday then it's fairly definite that it's not the cause!

    There's been dust on cars all week long, that's what happens when the ground is dry! I checked the car this morning for new dust and there was none


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    There's been no ash so far in my area of Galway City.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Seeing as the eruption only started

    There's been dust on cars all week long, that's what happens when the ground is dry! I checked the car this morning for new dust and there was none

    I think most of the experts agree that the dust visible on cars is indeed from the volcanic ash. Whether it's harmful or not is open to opinion but in such small quantities likely not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    Eyjafjallajokull started errupting over a week ago http://www.examiner.com/x-25803-Natural-Disasters-Examiner~y2010m3d27-Erupting-Iceland-volcano-imaged-by-NASA-satellite
    It just didn't make the news here until planes were grounded.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    you can see through the cloud a bit now and it looks as though the volcano is still erupting.. http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Ok I am due to fly to Chicago on Friday morning with Aerl Lingus,

    how do you rate the chances and what events need to occur for this to go ahead?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Chicken Run


    M.Pool wrote: »
    Has anyone noticed a reaction to the ash? The WHO say reactions are itchy eyes, runny nose, sore throat. I've had all three since last Wednesday and thought it was hayfever although I've never had hayfever before. Would be really interested to know if anyone else has been suffering from the same?

    quite likely to be hayfever - tree pollen is out in force plus it's been dry and breezy weather.
    I'd also speculate that a lot of the dust on cars is most likely from the dry conditions on the roads the past week or 2.


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