"Size Zero"

GirlOfGlass · 15-04-2010 06:38PM

pikachucheeks wrote: »

Nothing wrong with women who are naturally slender, but if it's the case that they're starving themselves and excessively dieting to be as small as possible, then it is a problem.

I feel sorry for women who are genetically thin and have to deal with constant abuse about having an eating disorder or being ill, tbh it's just as offensive and cruel as poking fun at someone who's larger.

I totally agree. I used to always get called "skinny bitch" "anorexic bitch" etc.
And I always remember someone asking me do I have an eating disorder the first day I met them!

It seems some people think it's acceptable to ask questions like this just because being skinny is 'supposedly' beautiful.
But it's just the same as asking someone if they're obese?
It's just not really a necessary question.

Cherrycola · 15-04-2010 06:46PM

Fair play to Britney for allowing the release of these pictures, just to show exactly how much airbrushing goes on.
They have made her at least 2 sizes smaller, and her skin is flawless.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1265676/Britney-Spears-releases-airbrushed-images-digitally-altered-versions.html

As someone already said, we dont have airbrush in our makeup kit, and dont carry around flattering lighting with us 24/7, and if this is what girls, and even guys for that matter, think a women looks like in the flesh, then anything that can help shatter that illusion is welcomed.
Our legs wobble when we walk, regardless of their size, and they dont glow in natural light. We have bruises and scars and our skin gets that fabulous mottled look when its cold!

We have stomach rolls when we sit down, and our boobs disappear under our armpits when we lie down. We have pores on our faces, and our hair is not naturally sleek with a mirror shine!

pikachucheeks · 15-04-2010 06:53PM

GirlOfGlass wrote: »

I always remember someone asking me do I have an eating disorder the first day I met them!

That's a horrible question to ask someone you've just met and considering they hardly knew you, it's pretty unlikely to have been out of genuine concern (and if it was, there are other less frank ways of addressing the issue) Probably more so out of jealously. It's a very invasive thing to ask.

GirlOfGlass wrote: »

It seems some people think it's acceptable to ask questions like this just because being skinny is 'supposedly' beautiful.

I'd agree.

Confronting someone large about their size is seen as being very taboo. Telling someone or asking someone if they're obese or overweight isn't considered something that's acceptable to do ... so why the double standard when approaching slim girls?

I know plenty of skinny girls that have people approaching them on nights out, telling them to eat or put on weight or that they look really skinny ... I wonder what would happen if people said the opposite to women who were bigger?

Weight is a touchy subject for a lot of people, so I wouldn't consider it ever OK for a person to comment on another's body, unless they were specifically asked or they had something genuinely positive to say.

SugarHigh · 15-04-2010 07:13PM

Fago! wrote: »

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

I'm sure she has a poster of you on her wall.:rolleyes:

Chorcai · 15-04-2010 07:16PM

Is there a facebook campaign ?

Schism · 15-04-2010 07:30PM

starflake wrote: »

Whitney Thompson U.S plus size model - size 14-16 (UK) 5 foot 10

Natalie Wakeling Australian Plus Size model size 14 (UK)

Both incredible looking women imo ....

Why are they called 'plus size'? I wouldn't call them what I'd consider to be plus size, they look normal size.

gagiteebo · 15-04-2010 07:37PM

Schism wrote: »

Why are they called 'plus size'? I wouldn't call them what I'd consider to be plus size, they look normal size.

The first girl Whitney was, if I'm not mistaken, the winner of America's Next Top Model a couple of years back. There was a big deal made of the fact that she was a 'big' girl etc and the bitchiness from some of the other girls was unreal :rolleyes:

Anyway that's beside the point. I wouldn't call them plus size either although in the world of modelling I suppose they are. I'm a size 14 and 5ft 10 as well but my body certainly doesn't look like that on a normal day! Even though they're normal women they are still being airbrushed

Where's the cellulite and the bit of a belly and the wobbly thighs?

I need some cake :P

speedboatchase · 15-04-2010 07:43PM

djhunter30 wrote: »

Size 0 - Why don't they call it what it really is, remove the woman, save money and use coat hangers, they're just as small. Can't stand the site of size 0 woman, poor things disappear when they turn side ways! I love a size 8 to 16 woman I can hold on to!

This is the exact point I'm making, you're mixing American sizes with UK sizes to make "0" (4) sound smaller!

Dudess · 15-04-2010 07:47PM

Trí wrote: »

Well if that's the case, then why aren't bigger women selected more often than thinner one's to be fashion models?

Yeah, I'd have thought designers would sell even more units if their clothes are modelled by women with bodies like Heidi Klum (slim but still curvy) rather than Belsen survivor up there?

Wibbs · 15-04-2010 08:52PM

The thing is Heidi Klum is pretty tiny framed. Minute in the flesh I would reckon. The whole thing is pretty skewed. So you'll have many actresses/models/celebs say they're size 8-10, but in reality are closer to 6 - 8(if not smaller). Which serves to make women both identify with the size and be completely hoodwinked and insecure about their own size that matches in the label but not in the mirror.

So many of these "size 10 curvy but slim women" are much smaller in reality. Ive seen some in the flesh and although I prefer slim framed women, they were well on the limit of my tastes. One claimed to be a curvy 10 and Ive more curves on me. Then the same women praised in one woman's mag are pilloried elsewhere, sometimes in the same womens mag with "candid" shots of cellulite and wobbly bits. "Oh isnt X gorgeous" V "Oh look at her cottage cheese thighs. It's very schizoid. To the point of madness.

The level of denial in the women themselves is crazy too. Women that are already outliers as far as size goes. You will have starlets who are quite obviously starving themselves and/or overdoing exercise, who then claim "oh I can eat anything/fast metabolism/there's nothing wrong/I've always been like this". When clearly older photos, especially pre fame photos show them as slim but normal, even nicely rounded, even pleasantly "chubby". Few or none will actually stand up and say they're living on celery and ciggies and sticking their fingers down their throat. They think too much is at stake. I've even seen some claim they're standing up for normal women and they're so much better now and they're still clearly unhealthily underweight. Its daft. And bloody dangerous.

Dudess · 15-04-2010 09:03PM

Wibbs wrote: »

The thing is Heidi Klum is pretty tiny framed. Minute in the flesh I would reckon. The whole thing is pretty skewed. So you'll have many actresses/models/celebs say they're size 8-10, but in reality are closer to 6 - 8(if not smaller). Which serves to make women both identify with the size and be completely hoodwinked and insecure about their own size that matches in the label but not in the mirror.

So many of these "size 10 curvy but slim women" are much smaller in reality.

Oh I agree - but the camera does add lbs and these women, while slim and slender, still have curves and shapeliness going on. Scarlett Johansson is one such woman - bet she's a size 8 but she is still so curvy, with massive boobs. Women like her are a much healthier shape to aspire to than that of the really emaciated models (it should be borne in mind though that such pics can be photoshopped to make the girls look thinner and unhealthier than they actually are, by people with particular agendas, as has been mentioned - but I've seen footage of catwalk models and some of them are pretty miserable-looking to be fair).

Then the same women praised in one woman's mag are pilloried elsewhere, sometimes in the same womens mag with "candid" shots of cellulite and wobbly bits. "Oh isnt X gorgeous" V "Oh look at her cottage cheese thighs. It's very schizoid. To the point of madness.

Even worse - the SAME magazine will say "Catherine Zeta Jones has lost so much weight - what a shame, she should be celebrating her curves" one week and "Catherine Zeta Jones is looking slimmer and sexier" another week.

barakus · 15-04-2010 10:10PM

Cherrycola wrote: »

Fair play to Britney for allowing the release of these pictures, just to show exactly how much airbrushing goes on.
They have made her at least 2 sizes smaller, and her skin is flawless.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1265676/Britney-Spears-releases-airbrushed-images-digitally-altered-versions.html

They got rid of the cameltoe:(

Dudess · 15-04-2010 10:49PM

Is camel-toe considered attractive? Hmmm... there's an idea for a thread.

/heads to Ladies' Lounge...

McChubbin · 15-04-2010 11:14PM

alwaysadub wrote: »

I actually thought it was one of them ads you see for third world countries when I glanced at her first :eek:

I second that thought. I think the girl in that picture has a beautiful face but heaven help her, she's got nothing to hang that top on her.
I simply cannot fathom why designers feel the need to use such horrificly skinny people to flog their clothes. The fabric hangs on them like death shrouds.

eoinbn · 15-04-2010 11:50PM

Cherrycola wrote: »

We have bruises and scars and our skin gets that fabulous mottled look when its cold!

What is with the bruises?! Are ye really that soft? I just put it down to my ex's having S&M sex behind my back!

Resi12 · 16-04-2010 01:22AM

Schism wrote: »

Why are they called 'plus size'? I wouldn't call them what I'd consider to be plus size, they look normal size.

A plus size in America is a 6-8 which is an 8-10 here.

Bonito · 16-04-2010 01:53AM

Me: Sorry, are you going to finish that?
Her: No, I'm watching my figure.
Me: How about you finish your steak and I'll watch your figure.

Cherrycola · 16-04-2010 02:39AM

eoinbn wrote: »

What is with the bruises?! Are ye really that soft? I just put it down to my ex's having S&M sex behind my back!

I wish i knew the answer!!! I bruise so easily that i regularly find bruises that ive no recollection of getting!

If ONLY it was the result of some bedroom acrobatics!! My husband works abroad and must be thinking im getting up to no good on a regular basis with all the bruises! :eek::D:D

Glenster · 16-04-2010 02:47AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Jesus christ - it's Size 4!

Jesus was size 2, max. Have you not seen all the pictures of him in church? His body is fierce!

Mind you he only has 2 'looks':

And

galwayrush · 16-04-2010 08:08AM

I'm not homophobic, but quite a lot of gay men seem to be involved in the fashion industry and they obviously find the size 0 more attractive than curves.:pac:

ibarelycare · 16-04-2010 09:17AM

Resi12 wrote: »

A plus size in America is a 6-8 which is an 8-10 here.

A 6-8 in America is a 10-12 here.

Lux23 · 16-04-2010 11:28AM

Is there any women here who would like to be a size four or even a size six? I bet there are some who would.

Another thing is how can you judge if clothes will look on you if a woman who has a waist the size of a 6 year old, thats why I don't get the skinny model thing.

Bonito · 16-04-2010 11:32AM

Self confession? :pac:

Naos · 16-04-2010 11:37AM

I blame those women magazines and their constant conflictions.

Story 1: "Check out CELEBs new amazing figure!"
Story 2: "Shock Story: I'm so thin I don't get my period"
Story 3: "I'm big and proud! 20st stripogram putting the sex back into sexy!"
Story 4: "Britney piles on the pounds, more like Fatney Spears!

F**K OFF.

Jesus those magazines are so full of sh1t.

Lux23 · 16-04-2010 11:40AM

Bonito wrote: »

Self confession? :pac:

Not sure if you are talking to me but no I like to be a bit pudgy. Weird I know.

Wibbs · 16-04-2010 11:43AM

eoinbn wrote: »

What is with the bruises?! Are ye really that soft? I just put it down to my ex's having S&M sex behind my back!

Thinner less robust skin in women I would have thought. Men are designed to be more rough and tumble and impervious to physical damage, so less bruising.

Truley · 16-04-2010 11:47AM

Lux23 wrote: »

Is there any women here who would like to be a size four or even a size six? I bet there are some who would.

I am 5ft tall and what would be considered an Irish/UK size four. When I was in America I bought loads of size zero jeans and tshirts. As i've never been able to find size four clothes here I either wear size six or clothes from the children's department in dunnes/penny's

Anyone who knows me will know I eat very well and am extremely active. Am never sick either :cool:

Lux23 · 16-04-2010 11:53AM

Truley wrote: »

I am 5ft tall and what would be considered an Irish/UK size four. When I was in America I bought loads of size zero jeans and tshirts. As i've never been able to find size four clothes here I either wear size six or clothes from the children's department in dunnes/penny's Anyone who knows me will know I eat very well and am extremely active. Am never sick either :cool:

Yea I have a friend who is 5ft 1 and she is the same as you. I wouldn't call her skinny either so it has alot to do with your frame; she has a lovely little figure if you know what I mean. Its what you are naturally but what I am wondering is girls who are say 5ft6 and a size 12 naturally, would they like to be a size 4?

bazmaiden · 16-04-2010 11:55AM

Truley wrote: »

I am 5ft tall and what would be considered an Irish/UK size four. When I was in America I bought loads of size zero jeans and tshirts. As i've never been able to find size four clothes here I either wear size six or clothes from the children's department in dunnes/penny's Anyone who knows me will know I eat very well and am extremely active. Am never sick either :cool:

same as my ex she was, at 23, only 5ft and a size six, but was very healthy, ate well and did have curves.

she was just naturally small

speedboatchase · 16-04-2010 11:58AM

Naos wrote: »

I blame those women magazines and their constant conflictions.

Story 1: "Check out CELEBs new amazing figure!"
Story 2: "Shock Story: I'm so thin I don't get my period"
Story 3: "I'm big and proud! 20st stripogram putting the sex back into sexy!"
Story 4: "Britney piles on the pounds, more like Fatney Spears!

F**K OFF.

Jesus those magazines are so full of sh1t.

Or

1. Kerry Katona's new post-pregnancy body
2. Kerry Katona says she loves her body and doesn't need to diet anymore
3. Ex pin-up Kerry Katona looks a shadow of her former self as she gains more weight
4. Kerry Katona's crash dieting - friends are worried
5. Kerry Katona looks bony and depressed, friends fear for her life
6. Kerry Katona's amazing new body and diet plan
7. Kerry Katona's curves are back - amazing new body

Step 7 is usually followed by 2, or in some cases 1. Then the cycle begins again

"Size Zero"

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