"Size Zero"

speedboatchase

Jesus christ - it's Size 4! What is with all these articles about body image etc talk about how someone is a healthy size 10, 12 etc in "today's size zero culture". Irish media - stop using American dress sizes to generate shock headlines and distort a genuine discussion that needs to happen AND take a balanced view instead of punishing those who undereat over the (vast majority) who overeat. Case in point yesterday's Herald

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/toothin-model-banned-from-xpose-live-2136898.html

""Overseas, they would probable embrace the look, but here in Ireland, they're pushing for healthier looking models ranging from a size 10 to 14."

Next paragraph - "As the international fashion industry is in upheaval over the constant barrage of emaciated models on the runway, Irish retailers are taking a stand against the persistent size zero trend"

Basically they want you to subconciously think the model was fired5-6 dress sizes smaller than what was required :rolleyes:

Fago!

Size zero girls are rotten! Their skrawny body and malnnourished look! Yuck!

I love a girl with a bit of meat on her!

Sykk

I'd brake her with me Mickey!

corkcomp

size 0 is not good. Obese is not good .. most people have their own in between preferences

spudmonkey17

Sykk wrote: »

I'd brake her with me Mickey!

If it wasn't for that comment I'd have thought I had stumbled into the wrong forum... :pac:

Fago!

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

Novella

Fago! wrote: »

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

:eek:

Noopti

Jaysus, i'm not too picky but I wouldn't slip her a length.....

dylano_k

Im not a size 0, im a size O...round bastard

petes

Fago! wrote: »

Size zero girls are rotten! Their skrawny body and malnnourished look! Yuck!

I love a girl with a bit of meat on her!

I love a girl with a bit of meat in her!!

alwaysadub

Fago! wrote: »

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

I actually thought it was one of them ads you see for third world countries when i glanced at her first :eek:

Fago!

Insurgent wrote: »

I love a girl with a bit of meat in her!!

http://www.w3bbo.com/forums/Blank-Facepalm.gif

Noopti

Maybe Bob Geldof should organise a concert to help these size 0 models.

Live Ate....nothing

ibarelycare

Completely agree OP. It's obviously just for dramatic effect, but it makes no sense to chop and change between UK and American sizes within one article. Really bugs me!

ibarelycare

Fago! wrote: »

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

:eek:

Jesus they could have done a better job with her makeup to at least make her FACE look healthy! Those dark circles and bags under her eyes are awful.

bonerm

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin.....

speedboatchase

speedboatchase wrote: »

Jesus christ - it's Size 4!

No it isnt....it is age 10-11 in this country.

pickarooney

What a clever reference to a topical film about child murder there. Bravo Caitlin.

Joey the lips

For years women have been telling men that size does not matter..... This proves otherwise....


My other half's size is her own business(and mine if I am buying her underware ) but regardless of size you will either love them or will not.

i agree with the op it is madness but like a 36DD bust on page 3... Size Zero sells a lot of womens magazines

So unfor its only women who can stop this....

Resi12

Fago! wrote: »

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

Fuhcking rotten!

I'm sure she is a Size 00 (Yes there is such a thing).

Wurly

Joey the lips wrote: »

For years women have been telling men that size does not matter..... This proves otherwise....


My other half's size is her own business(and mine if I am buying her underware ) but regardless of size you will either love them or will not.

i agree with the op it is madness but like a 36DD bust on page 3... Size Zero sells a lot of womens magazines

So unfor its only women who can stop this....

I think (and hope) that the tide is changing with regards to this whole size zero shyte.

I do fully agree that this is a problem that women have created by buying rags like Heat Magazine et al. Most men wouldn't have a clue about dress sizes. If a girl looks good, then she looks good - end of.

It's infuriating to me that women do this to each other though. I remember watching a documentary before about a modeling agency and the agent was telling this emaciated model that she needed to lose more weight and had noticed that she was starting to get 'fat'. The agent was about a size 20. Fookin ridiculous.

However, as a female, it's very hard not to get roped into all of this too. I am about a size 12 i'd say and I still am partial to the odd hang up about looking 'fat'. The more rational part of me says that size 12 is no-where near fat. Sure wasn't Marilyn Monroe lusted after the world over and she was a size 16.

It seems that every decade, there is a new trend for girls to obsess over. I remember in the 90's it was all about big boobs and cleavage. Now it's this ridiculous size 0 thing.

The fact remains - keep buying the trash media that pushes this kind of thing on women and the problem will continue.

artanevilla

Fago! wrote: »

Size zero girls are rotten! Their skrawny body and malnnourished look! Yuck!

I love a girl with a bit of meat on her!

I prefer a girl with a bit of meat in her.

ibarelycare

Trí wrote: »

I think (and hope) that the tide is changing with regards to this whole size zero shyte.

I do fully agree that this is a problem that women have created by buying rags like Heat Magazine et al. Most men wouldn't have a clue about dress sizes. If a girl looks good, then she looks good - end of.

It's infuriating to me that women do this to each other though. I remember watching a documentary before about a modeling agency and the agent was telling this emaciated model that she needed to lose more weight and had noticed that she was starting to get 'fat'. The agent was about a size 20. Fookin ridiculous.

However, as a female, it's very hard not to get roped into all of this too. I am about a size 12 i'd say and I still am partial to the odd hang up about looking 'fat'. The more rational part of me says that size 12 is no-where near fat. Sure wasn't Marilyn Monroe lusted after the world over and she was a size 16.

It seems that every decade, there is a new trend for girls to obsess over. I remember in the 90's it was all about big boobs and cleavage. Now it's this ridiculous size 0 thing.

The fact remains - keep buying the trash media that pushes this kind of thing on women and the problem will continue.

Actually the Marilyn Monroe thing is just a much-believed myth!

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article6044724.ece

ibarelycare

artanevilla wrote: »

I prefer a girl with a bit of meat in her.

That was only slightly funny the first time:

Insurgent wrote: »

I love a girl with a bit of meat in her!!

artanevilla

ibarelycare wrote: »

That was only slightly funny the first time:

Ah I really only read the first three posts.

Wurly

ibarelycare wrote: »

Actually the Marilyn Monroe thing is just a much-believed myth!

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article6044724.ece

FOOK!:pac:

/illusions shattered!!

Well then, Rubenesque women were all the rage at one stage and were considered beautiful...:)

And show me one man that wouldn't fancy a fumble with Nigella Lawson. And she has curves!:)

Fago!

artanevilla wrote: »

I prefer a girl with a bit of meat in her.

It's been done!

Insurgent wrote: »

I love a girl with a bit of meat in her!!

:rolleyes:

ibarelycare wrote: »

That was only slightly funny the first time:

No it wasn't! :P

Rented Mule

ibarelycare wrote: »

:eek:

Jesus they could have done a better job with her makeup to at least make her FACE look healthy! Those dark circles and bags under her eyes are awful.

Don't be surpirsed if they airbrushed those circles under her eyes to help with the shock value.

Joey the lips

ibarelycare wrote: »

Actually the Marilyn Monroe thing is just a much-believed myth!

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/fashion/article6044724.ece

Now with due respect you have effectivly added to the stigma women suffer without realising it...and you have shattered the posters illusion


Why?

For example.... A man never discusses brad pitts waist size or tom cruises height.(even though he is small)....why? Yes a man sees that women see them good looking but a man says right I need to get fit... but he does not say I need 32 waist or a 36" waist because we know that arnie's waist is hugh compared to tom cruise but they both have attributes that make them apealing to men.

where as a women equates another women as being goodlooking because of the attributes that we are discussing... For example I must be a size zero... My otherhalf was less than a size zero when i met her. she is more now but is no less apealing...

PeterIanStaker

That Daily Mail photo looks like a Belsen horror. :eek:

This is the image that is being displayed to already - insecure young girls/women?

Its plain wrong.

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

Trí wrote: »

FOOK!:pac:

/illusions shattered!!

Well then, Rubenesque women were all the rage at one stage and were considered beautiful...:)

And show me one man that wouldn't fancy a fumble with Nigella Lawson. And she has curves!:)

Awwwww baby. just googled. That is the type of milf ass that makes me drool. Big boobs too. I want her to mother me!!!

ibarelycare

Joey the lips wrote: »

Now with due respect you have effectivly added to the stigma women suffer without realising it...and you have shattered the posters illusion


Why?

For example.... A man never discusses brad pitts waist size or tom cruises height.(even though he is small)....why? Yes a man sees that women see them good looking but a man says right I need to get fit... but he does not say I need 32 waist or a 36" waist because we know that arnie's waist is hugh compared to tom cruise but they both have attributes that make them apealing to men.

where as a women equates another women as being goodlooking because of the attributes that we are discussing... For example I must be a size zero... My otherhalf was less than a size zero when i met her. she is more now but is no less apealing...

...ummm....sorry!

Herbal Deity

I like a girl with a bit of meat in her.

BigDuffman

Its women who read these magazines and the majority of skinny pressure is derived from women....men do not like skinny. If you want a girl with a figure with an 11 year old boy...well your probably a priest.

You don't want your mickey rattling off her pelvis and ribs at the same time. You need Padding for your pudding

Wurly

Joey the lips wrote: »

Now with due respect you have effectivly added to the stigma women suffer without realising it...and you have shattered the posters illusion


Why?

For example.... A man never discusses brad pitts waist size or tom cruises height.(even though he is small)....why? Yes a man sees that women see them good looking but a man says right I need to get fit... but he does not say I need 32 waist or a 36" waist because we know that arnie's waist is hugh compared to tom cruise but they both have attributes that make them apealing to men.

where as a women equates another women as being goodlooking because of the attributes that we are discussing... For example I must be a size zero... My otherhalf was less than a size zero when i met her. she is more now but is no less apealing...

In fairness, it were me that mentioned my size and that of Marilyn Monroe. ibarelycare was just pointing out the myth that surrounds Ms Monroe's size because I had used her as an example.

I get your point on the rest though. It's a totally different world for men with this issue. But they have their fair share to deal with too - thinning hair, baldness, physique etc etc.

the_syco

Sykk wrote: »

I'd brake her with me Mickey!

Aye.

Insurgent wrote: »

I love a girl with a bit of meat in her!!

Already in her? Double team scenario?

goose2005

The actual reasons for creation of size 0 were size inflation (e.g. a size 9 dress being labelled as a 7) and immigration from Asia (Asian women have smaller frames)

Mrmoe

the_syco wrote: »

Aye.

Already in her? Double team scenario?

Something tells me that she is not a fan of spit roasts:p

pikachucheeks

Regardless of whether it's a size 0 or a size 4, it's still feckin' tiny!

Wibbs

BigDuffman wrote: »

Its women who read these magazines and the majority of skinny pressure is derived from women....men do not like skinny.

I would defo agree. Because I am one of those guys who does like thinner women(not 14 year old boy hips though ) and Im quite a rarity. You wouldnt think it by the women that men may reference as their ideal, but its true for the most part. They may mention some skinny starlet, but in the flesh would probably go no way, other than to boast they were with her.

EG I would not find Nigella lawson attractive. Her face, yes, she is gorgeous. Her body no. TBH I would find her body unattractive. just way too much of a good thing. Dont like big bewbs either. the majority of men reading this now think Im in need of a guide dog and having my head read. Hell even some gay fellas fancy Nigella

Maybe its cos I myself look like a reject from a trocaire box that water finds its own level, but as I say I am unusual. The men who like a size 8 are much rarer than the men who like a size 14. And actually rarer IME than men who like a size 20.

With size I think most men only get freaked by change in size if they get freaked at all. Much much less than women do.

ballsymchugh

goose2005 wrote: »

The actual reasons for creation of size 0 were size inflation (e.g. a size 9 dress being labelled as a 7) and immigration from Asia (Asian women have smaller frames)

what about gay designers that would tend to find boyish frames more attractive?
another argument i heard is the size 0 models just use less material. cheap baxtards!

vicecreamsundae

BigDuffman wrote: »

Its women who read these magazines and the majority of skinny pressure is derived from women....men do not like skinny. If you want a girl with a figure with an 11 year old boy...well your probably a priest.

You don't want your mickey rattling off her pelvis and ribs at the same time. You need Padding for your pudding

the "skinny pressure" may be mostly derived from women, but there are really two sides to it - fashion and sex.
on the fashion end, it stems from the major fashion houses, and often it IS men who insist on using ridiculously thin models.but yeah, it's mostly women who eat it up.
then you have the sex aspect and you've also got your FHM/ Megan Fox/Jessica Alba types that men go on about how hot they are, so women feel pressure to be sexy for men as well - and although they might not be dramatically skinny like size zero models, having a flat stomach and just the right amount of curves in just the right places is just as unrealistic for most of us.

on the bright side, awareness is growing big time, and hopefully young girls growing up realise just how much photoshopping goes on.

also, even though i'm huuugely opposed to how the media only presents one beauty ideal [thin], i hate when it generates this kind of backlash of "ugh she's too skinny to ****, it's disgusting" etc. people come in all shapes and sizes, some people are just genetically thinner, and others have eating disorders. body snarking at someone for being too thin is just as bad as doing the same for someone you deem overweight.

in saying that, i know this is AH.... so whatever. carry on!

MoodeRator

ballsymchugh wrote: »

what about gay designers that would tend to find boyish frames more attractive?
another argument i heard is the size 0 models just use less material. cheap baxtards!

surely you are kiddin with BOTH of these statements?

starflake

Whitney Thompson U.S plus size model - size 14-16 (UK) 5 foot 10


Natalie Wakeling Australian Plus Size model size 14 (UK)



Both incredible looking women imo ....

It wasn't me!

starflake wrote: »

Whitney Thompson U.S plus size model - size 14-16 (UK) 5 foot 10


Natalie Wakeling Australian Plus Size model size 14 (UK)



Both incredible looking women imo ....

That's mighty tasty looking.

Sykk

In b4 redtube

pikachucheeks

Wibbs wrote: »

I would defo agree. Because I am one of those guys who does like thinner women

Just get out!

*cries into bowl of ice-cream*

:pac:

Nothing wrong with women who are naturally slender, but if it's the case that they're starving themselves and excessively dieting to be as small as possible, then it is a problem.

I feel sorry for women who are genetically thin and have to deal with constant abuse about having an eating disorder or being ill, tbh it's just as offensive and cruel as poking fun at someone who's larger.

lorebringer

I was in the supermarket and was standing beside two girls, one going on and on about her she had ordered an outfit from the States for a wedding she was going to - the outfit being a size 0. Her friend started talking about how she feels so fat compared to her freakishly thin friend. Both of these women were very, and I mean sickly, thin. I was shocked to think this is what women today are striving for.

I am always concerned about the health side if things. Before I saw the women in the supermarket I hadn't really visualised just how small size 0 is. These women can't be having periods or be able to get pregnant at that size, or able to function comfortably in everyday life! Surely, staving oneself to fit into a size of clothing has many long term effects (joint and bone issues come to mind) and if you are that size you must feel like sh!t all the time. And to think, normal women are made to think they are fat - very sickening.

I say, get a chinese or a few burgers girls!

Wurly

It wasn't me! wrote: »

That's mighty tasty looking.

The first photo looks airbrushed to an inch of it's life. She looks like a mannequin... This presents a whole other issue.. Normal girls don't and can't look like that - we don't have 'airbrush' in our make up.:)

Her body is lovely though but I suspect an inch or two may have been photoshopped from her torso....

lizardfudge

You're supposed to be looking at the clothes. That's the purpose of a fashion model. They're glorified walking mannequins.

It wasn't me!

Trí wrote: »

The first photo looks airbrushed to an inch of it's life. She looks like a mannequin... This presents a whole other issue.. Normal girls don't and can't look like that - we don't have 'airbrush' in our make up.:)

Her body is lovely though but I suspect an inch or two may have been photoshopped from her torso....

I suspect you may be right, in retrospect. Still, pretty.