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Gays blamed for Srebrenica defeat

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    The massacre in Srebrencia is a testament to how fucking toothless UN Peacekeeping forces can be, trying to blame it on gays serving in the military is disgusting.

    he didnt blame them though, he said the dutch government did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,155 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Bambi wrote: »
    he didnt blame them though, he said the dutch government did
    Something which the Dutch government completely denied saying

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Leucifer


    90f6.jpg


    "Feckin Greeks! They invented gayness!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭KingLoser


    Jack Sheehan and noisy bikers are f*cking fags.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    You would think a US general would have known that the greatest military unit in history was comprised completely of gay couples.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Devious


    Homosexuals can't swim, they attract enemy radar, they attract sharks, they nudge people when they're trying to shoot, they always insist on sitting at "The Captain's Table"... they *muck about*. Imagine... the fear... when you go to sleep with a gay man on board and think "Oh God, when I wake up, will everyone be dead?" You can't run a ship like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Bambi wrote: »
    he didnt blame them though, he said the dutch government did

    Yeaaaaah, I'd like a cite on that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,648 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    how many men were these dutch soldiers up against, how were the serbs armed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    how many men were these dutch soldiers up against, how were the serbs armed

    400 Dutch with light weapons against probably 10,000+ Serbs with tanks and artillery.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre#Perpetrators_named
    Perpetrators named

    On 4 October 2005, the Special Bosnian Serb Government Working Group said that 25,083 people were involved in the massacre, including 19,473 members of various Bosnian Serb armed forces that actively gave orders or directly took part in the massacre. They have identified 17,074 by name.[104] It has also been reported that some 892 of those suspects still hold positions at or are employed by the government of Republika Srpska. The names are still held secret.[105]


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    It's not the gays it's the Chinese he's after...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    Winston Churchill had a similar problem with the Royal Navy. "The Admiralty? Monstrous! Nothing but rum and sodomy, prayers and the lash!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    how many men were these dutch soldiers up against, how were the serbs armed

    Plus not to forget that when the Dutch realised they couldn't hold off the Serbs that the Bosniaks inside the city turned on them aswell, IIRC there were a few Dutch soldiers killed by the Bosnian side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Seriously though, if a pissed off Serb army was coming at you with tanks and artillery, you're lightly armed and few in numbers, gay, straight, black, white, purple you'll fight back as best as you can. Absolutely ludicrous claim to make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    prinz wrote: »
    Plus not to forget that when the Dutch realised they couldn't hold off the Serbs that the Bosniaks inside the city turned on them aswell, IIRC there were a few Dutch soldiers killed by the Bosnian side.

    That wouldnt surprise me in the slightest. By any chance do you have any links to this though? Not that im doubting you, but its something id like to learn more about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    That wouldnt surprise me in the slightest. By any chance do you have any links to this though? Not that im doubting you, but its something id like to learn more about.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

    Good links in there to the ICJ etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    El Siglo wrote: »
    Seriously though, if a pissed off Serb army was coming at you with tanks and artillery, you're lightly armed and few in numbers, gay, straight, black, white, purple you'll fight back as best as you can. Absolutely ludicrous claim to make.

    Problem is they didn't fight back. To do so would have been largely suicidal anyway but there are reports that Ducth soldiers were present and witnessed men and teenage boys being summarily executed on the street, and that Dutch soldiers watched Serbs raping women and girls and didn't intervene. Of course it's hard to blame the Dutch, they had asked for help and support and had been left to their own devices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    prinz wrote: »
    Problem is they didn't fight back. To do so would have been largely suicidal anyway but there are reports that Ducth soldiers were present and witnessed men and teenage boys being summarily executed on the street, and that Dutch soldiers watched Serbs raping women and girls and didn't intervene. Of course it's hard to blame the Dutch, they had asked for help and support and had been left to their own devices.

    True, but they're a UN force so they're caught between a rock and a hard place. I was saying more on a general point that regardless of sexuality, a person will fight for their survival. If the Dutch were part of a NATO force in Srebrenica it would have been a different story.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Sure the first man in the sas was queer. Also, sas is an anagram of ass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    El Siglo wrote: »
    True, but they're a UN force so they're caught between a rock and a hard place. I was saying more on a general point that regardless of sexuality, a person will fight for their survival. If the Dutch were part of a NATO force in Srebrenica it would have been a different story.

    I agree. They were left staring down two barrels. Sexuality, nationality, as irrelevant as what kind of haircuts they had. Pointless blaming the Dutch batt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    It's not the first time the UN has been hampered.


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