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Science TR071

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  • #632
    ApeXaviour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Gen10 wrote: »
    Where to even start....
    Print out past exam papers and get answering.


  • #633
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    ApeXaviour wrote: »
    Print out past exam papers and get answering.
    Hey, while youre here, what labs are we doing in FP this half term?

    Edit: Wahey! 1000!


  • #634
    Gen10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭Gen10


    Thanks! So should I just not do all the lecture summaries that people do and just do exam questions instead do you think? Cannot get motivated!


  • #635
    ApeXaviour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    JammyC sorry I don't know precisely. I'm guessing it's 6 through 10 though.

    Gen10, I found out in the latter half of my degree that this method worked way better for me. Get out the past questions (print them ALL out now, and organise them into folders or polypockets) and try answer them immediately. You'll of course find you'll start a question and not be able to complete it competently. So after you've given it a quick shot, read up on the material specific to answering all parts of that question, close your book/notes and try again. That way you're learning with a view to applying the knowledge in an exam situation. There's a definite gap between understanding what you read over and processing it in a usable way, especially with more technical subject matter (maths/chemistry/physics/genetics/biochem etc). Focus on one type of question or one small subject matter each time and aim to answer a couple of questions per study session. Then save those answers in a folder with the questions!
    Aim to get basically a set of answers for all the past questions. They'll be a very useful set of notes to you when revising/cramming before the exam eg "Oh thaaats how you integrate by parts, I remember now".

    Anecdotal evidence edit: There was a girl in my year with whom I was friendly and who I know to be more talented in physics than I. She was also a solid motivated worker. She'd religiously take notes from all lectures in immaculate handwriting. Then she'd rewrite them with extra information twice before exams (this is a ridiculous amount of work...) only taking to trying the past questions maybe a week or two prior to exams. Now she always did fairly well but in 3rd and 4th year I did better, even though I'm not as smart and only put in perhaps 1/4 the hours she did.


  • #636
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    I miss much today?


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  • #637
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Anyone got the code and that we need to submit the Biology essay?


  • #638
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    amacachi wrote: »
    Anyone got the code and that we need to submit the Biology essay?
    Class ID is 3009605
    fairly sure the password is by1102essay. But I think it stopped accepting them at 8pm yesterday. Edit, think it's tomorrow.


  • #639
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Not allowing late entries already. Ah well.


  • #640
    Gen10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭Gen10


    ApeXaviour wrote: »
    JammyC sorry I don't know precisely. I'm guessing it's 6 through 10 though.

    Gen10, I found out in the latter half of my degree that this method worked way better for me. Get out the past questions (print them ALL out now, and organise them into folders or polypockets) and try answer them immediately. You'll of course find you'll start a question and not be able to complete it competently. So after you've given it a quick shot, read up on the material specific to answering all parts of that question, close your book/notes and try again. That way you're learning with a view to applying the knowledge in an exam situation. There's a definite gap between understanding what you read over and processing it in a usable way, especially with more technical subject matter (maths/chemistry/physics/genetics/biochem etc). Focus on one type of question or one small subject matter each time and aim to answer a couple of questions per study session. Then save those answers in a folder with the questions!
    Aim to get basically a set of answers for all the past questions. They'll be a very useful set of notes to you when revising/cramming before the exam eg "Oh thaaats how you integrate by parts, I remember now".

    Anecdotal evidence edit: There was a girl in my year with whom I was friendly and who I know to be more talented in physics than I. She was also a solid motivated worker. She'd religiously take notes from all lectures in immaculate handwriting. Then she'd rewrite them with extra information twice before exams (this is a ridiculous amount of work...) only taking to trying the past questions maybe a week or two prior to exams. Now she always did fairly well but in 3rd and 4th year I did better, even though I'm not as smart and only put in perhaps 1/4 the hours she did.

    Thanks, that was really helpful! I printed out loads of exam papers today and got started. I feel better already! I probably would've been the same as the girl you were talking about in secondary school but it's so much harder to be that motivated in college. Thanks again!


  • #641
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    amacachi wrote: »
    Not allowing late entries already. Ah well.
    Sorry to hear that. I was pissed yesterday. The lab manual says hard copy by 5 and online by 4. Did that, and went to the Bio labs at 4.30 to be told that it was hard copy by 4 and that I had read it wrong. Checked it later, pretty sure I was right. Anyway, the woman took it for me, nice enough.


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  • #642
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Jammyc wrote: »
    Sorry to hear that. I was pissed yesterday. The lab manual says hard copy by 5 and online by 4. Did that, and went to the Bio labs at 4.30 to be told that it was hard copy by 4 and that I had read it wrong. Checked it later, pretty sure I was right. Anyway, the woman took it for me, nice enough.

    Ah no biggy, only losing some percent of something probably worth about 2%.


  • #643
    GlasnevinRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭GlasnevinRed


    Broad Curriculum Chemistry (SF) final tomorrow in CHLLT at 6. Should be interesting! Our presentation (Chemistry of Emotions) is on first. Worth checking out if people are around.:D


  • #644
    ApeXaviour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Jammyc wrote: »
    Hey, while youre here, what labs are we doing in FP this half term?
    Actually it's experiments: 9, 11, 15, 17, 19. Just found out myself


  • #645
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    ApeXaviour wrote: »
    Actually it's experiments: 9, 11, 15, 17, 19. Just found out myself
    Thankyoo!


  • #646
    Aoibheann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,383 ✭✭✭Aoibheann


    15, 17 and 19 are all pretty alright. I did 15 (The Geiger Counter) yesterday, 'twas a lovely lab. Got everything done, graphs included by about half three (our labs are 2-5pm) and I've the write-up done too. Geiger counter is verrry easy to use, you're essentially just varying distances and ensuring you stop the counter at the right time. :)

    17 (The Photoelectric Effect) I haven't done yet, but we (TP students) have to do both it and 18 on the same day, and my friends who did it yesterday said both are short and simple so I wouldn't worry about it.

    19 (The Spectrometer) is so finicky in getting the set-up correct, but the report is decent enough. We thought our values were completely wrong, but we had to calculate a value for the Rydberg constant (and a value for n_0 from that), and it was pretty much spot on. So I wouldn't worry if it feels horrible, it kinda is but it doesn't go so badly!

    We never got around to doing 9 in the first semester, but 11 (Leslie's Cube) also looks pretty ok as labs go. :)


  • #647
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Aoibheann wrote: »
    15, 17 and 19 are all pretty alright. I did 15 (The Geiger Counter) yesterday, 'twas a lovely lab. Got everything done, graphs included by about half three (our labs are 2-5pm) and I've the write-up done too. Geiger counter is verrry easy to use, you're essentially just varying distances and ensuring you stop the counter at the right time. :)

    17 (The Photoelectric Effect) I haven't done yet, but we (TP students) have to do both it and 18 on the same day, and my friends who did it yesterday said both are short and simple so I wouldn't worry about it.

    19 (The Spectrometer) is so finicky in getting the set-up correct, but the report is decent enough. We thought our values were completely wrong, but we had to calculate a value for the Rydberg constant (and a value for n_0 from that), and it was pretty much spot on. So I wouldn't worry if it feels horrible, it kinda is but it doesn't go so badly!

    We never got around to doing 9 in the first semester, but 11 (Leslie's Cube) also looks pretty ok as labs go. :)
    We did 9 today, still have no idea what we did though.....


  • #648
    celtic723
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    Alright fellow TR071er's. Long time no chat. Anyone else absolutely *****ing themselves regarding the exams? I just cannot study! Can't motivate myself to do any significant work, and i really need to. Also the exam spacing JammyC posted is a bit of a downer! I was kind of hoping for at least 2 days between each exam:mad::mad:.

    How's the study going for everyone else? Heads in the books i suppose? Exams fcuking suck!


  • #649
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    celtic723 wrote: »
    Alright fellow TR071er's. Long time no chat. Anyone else absolutely *****ing themselves regarding the exams? I just cannot study! Can't motivate myself to do any significant work, and i really need to. Also the exam spacing JammyC posted is a bit of a downer! I was kind of hoping for at least 2 days between each exam:mad::mad:.

    How's the study going for everyone else? Heads in the books i suppose? Exams fcuking suck!

    Not opened a book yet tbh. What subjects have you?
    Looking at mine, maths looks easy to pass, biology could be tough. Geography is a lot of choice so I hope to just cover 4/5 topics well.

    The spacing is an absolute bollocks though.


  • #650
    celtic723
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    amacachi wrote: »
    Not opened a book yet tbh. What subjects have you?
    Looking at mine, maths looks easy to pass, biology could be tough. Geography is a lot of choice so I hope to just cover 4/5 topics well.

    The spacing is an absolute bollocks though.

    I'm doing:

    Maths Methods
    Foundation Physics
    Chem 1 & 2
    Bio 1 & 2

    Really have to get cracking on the studying but as i said, motivation is non-existent.


  • #651
    Craguls
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Craguls


    I was worried then I kinda realised that worrying and stressing's counter productive.

    I've Chemistry, Biology, Geology, and Maths Methods to deal with. I'll just do as much as I can and it should be grand. The way of studying ApeX recommended works a treat too.


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  • #652
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Craguls wrote: »
    I was worried then I kinda realised that worrying and stressing's counter productive.

    I've Chemistry, Biology, Geology, and Maths Methods to deal with. I'll just do as much as I can and it should be grand. The way of studying ApeX recommended works a treat too.

    Aye, no point in stressing at all. Loads of time still to go anyway.

    Past papers is the only way I've ever studied, though I only ever studied for LC maths. :pac:


  • #653
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Probably no-one left online, but anyone have their biology lab yet? Roughly how long was it, tryin to make some plans.


  • #654
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's all this about ordering notes??? Have no idea what it's about, and im scared to sell my soul to the spreadsheet until I know...


  • #655
    Craguls
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Craguls


    true-or-false wrote: »
    What's all this about ordering notes??? Have no idea what it's about, and im scared to sell my soul to the spreadsheet until I know...

    They're printing off all the notes in bulk and selling them as packs.
    It works out cheaper than if you were to print them off yourself.


  • #656
    celtic723
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    i know it's paddy's day and it's a longshot but here goes.

    Anyone that's slightly good at maths able to show me how you get the mew value of both lead and aluminium in the foundation physics geiger counter practical?


    I'm mathematically clueless, thanks.


  • #657
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    celtic723 wrote: »
    i know it's paddy's day and it's a longshot but here goes.

    Anyone that's slightly good at maths able to show me how you get the mew value of both lead and aluminium in the foundation physics geiger counter practical?


    I'm mathematically clueless, thanks.

    Sorry, no clue what mew value means. :pac:


  • #658
    Fringe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    After doing your graph, it should be the slope of the line.


  • #659
    celtic723
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    Fringe wrote: »
    After doing your graph, it should be the slope of the line.

    that's what i thought but the instructor guy that is assigned to a certain experiment said something about using natural logs etc... what does he mean?

    Ix = Io.e^-μ.x

    then at the bottom of the manual it says:

    (Note: Using natural logirithms; ln (Ix) = ln (Io) - μ.x)

    what am i supposed to do? apologies if this is basic maths or what not, as you can see i'm incapable of processing this ****.


  • #660
    Gen10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭Gen10


    What did all the 2nd years think of the mod fair yesterday? Everyone know what they want to do now?
    Also, as it's getting closer to the exams,, is there any topics especially in biology that people are leaving out? Is leaving stuff out a good idea?


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  • #661
    Jammyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Just for some helpsss,

    https://www.tcd.ie/Biology_Teaching_Centre/BY1010/modules/BY1012/index.php

    theres a link to which you can access the notes on the BTC website. Just dont click modules!


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