Science TR071

Sugarglass · 30-01-2010 02:55PM

danishidiot wrote: »

Also, did anyone find the phyllogenic bee experiment in Biology frustrating?
I would have much preferred to do it on my own.....Its so hard to get to people to think the same way about something that's subjective!:rolleyes:

That was so annoying, in the end my partner and I just did ours separately. Has anyone tried doing the whole blind watchmaker thing yet?

Jammyc · 30-01-2010 02:56PM

danishidiot wrote: »

I want to avoid handwriting mine if possible as my handwriting amounts to nothing more than interesting squiggles to most people (including me unfortunately):p

I doubt that they'd be to suspicious as plagiarism is unlikely with the experiments.

Also, did anyone find the phyllogenic bee experiment in Biology frustrating?
I would have much preferred to do it on my own.....Its so hard to get to people to think the same way about something that's subjective!:rolleyes:

Yeah the biology was a pain in the ass! Was so fed up at the end i just gave up!

Craguls · 30-01-2010 04:20PM

I wanted to kill someone after it. I thought the key was a breeze but the phylogenetic trees drove me crazy. Especially the shapes. Stupid stupid shapes. Although I wouldn't mind an exam question on it to be honest. Once your logic seemed consistent it was easier

seacláid-te · 30-01-2010 06:24PM

2nd years gets better guys!! ....(not!!) ah no, keep in the game

Pet · 30-01-2010 08:35PM

For the record, it's been 4 years since I did the bumblebee practical, and I STILL remember how horribly infuriating it was...

SligoBrewer · 30-01-2010 08:36PM

I love not doing Biology.

Fad · 31-01-2010 12:47AM

SligoBrewer wrote: »

I love not doing Biology.

UCD biology seems to be worse, 35 per cent of our Animal Diversity and Evolution module was dedicated to a 5000 word technical report on Trout Diversity in Ireland. Needless to say I didnt do it........

Learned an obscene amount about trout sex though *shudder*

Then I dropped Biology

Craguls · 31-01-2010 02:36AM

SligoBrewer wrote: »

I love not doing Biology.

I dislike BY1102 so much I was contemplating deferring and starting over with physics. I just hate plants and animals.

lucernarian · 31-01-2010 03:09PM

Phew, how glad am I that I didn't do biology in first year! I dropped maths and physics after first year because I hated physics and maths wasn't going to get me much further in my career choices.

I took up Biology 1 and 2, which equates to 8 modules in the restructured course. I'm quite glad I did too.

I have a fear of bees too...

Jammyc · 03-02-2010 02:39PM

Apex...can ya help?

In the pendulum experiment, how do I calculate g for the compound pendulum? Do I have to find I or IG? Hlp PLs!:D

ApeXaviour · 03-02-2010 03:11PM

Hey Jammyc, you're looking for neither.

You've plotted d*T^2 against d^2 right? Fit a line to it in Excel and tick the equation box so you it gives you the slope.

Look at the formula T = 2*Pi ((k^2+d^2)/gd)^(1/2)
i.e. equation (2) in the manual.

If you square that formula and rearrange it slightly it looks like:
d*T^2 = (4Pi^2/g)*d^2 + (4(k*Pi)^2)/g
Which is basically the equation of the line you plotted (you know y = m*x + C). So if you know your slope "m" then...
see where I'm going with this?

Jammyc · 03-02-2010 06:06PM

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Hey Jammyc, you're looking for neither.

You've plotted d*T^2 against d^2 right? Fit a line to it in Excel and tick the equation box so you it gives you the slope.

Look at the formula T = 2*Pi ((k^2+d^2)/gd)^(1/2)
i.e. equation (2) in the manual.

If you square that formula and rearrange it slightly it looks like:
d*T^2 = (4Pi^2/g)*d^2 + (4(k*Pi)^2)/g
Which is basically the equation of the line you plotted (you know y = m*x + C). So if you know your slope "m" then...
see where I'm going with this?

Dankya dankya daknya!

Craguls · 04-02-2010 02:32PM

You know what blind watchmaker? I don't care anymore

amacachi · 04-02-2010 04:19PM

Craguls wrote: »

You know what blind watchmaker? I don't care anymore

How long did it take you to reach that state? I've been here 15 minutes and already feel like that, wondering if it's too soon to give up. :pac:

Craguls · 04-02-2010 08:22PM

amacachi wrote: »

How long did it take you to reach that state? I've been here 15 minutes and already feel like that, wondering if it's too soon to give up. :pac:

2 long painful random hours

amacachi · 04-02-2010 08:31PM

Craguls wrote: »

2 long painful random hours

Get anywhere in the end? I gave up after an hour, gonna go in early tomorrow and give it another go, though I'm not overly confident.

Craguls · 04-02-2010 08:40PM

I'm pushing my luck with the lobster but the star fish is pretty cool.

amacachi · 04-02-2010 08:47PM

Aye, very hard to know where to go/stop with the lobster. Meh, I'll worry about it when I wake up. ^_^

celtic723 · 04-02-2010 09:11PM

The guy that's marking me is ****. He gave everyone 5 out of 5 last week for the phylogenies and dichotomous key but me and my lab partner only got 4.5! I expect the same tomorrow even though you should, by right get 5 for even getting anything REMOTELY like what you've been asked.

The lab demonstrators in Biology take things WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. It's quite stupid tbh.

amacachi · 04-02-2010 09:19PM

Someone sitting next to me in the computer room today got full marks for hers, so they seem to be fairly liberal with it.

celtic723 · 04-02-2010 09:21PM

amacachi wrote: »

Someone sitting next to me in the computer room today got full marks for hers, so they seem to be fairly liberal with it.

She i assure you was not stuck with said **** marking it.

SligoBrewer · 04-02-2010 10:15PM

celtic723 wrote: »

I expect the same tomorrow even though you should, by right get 5 for even getting anything REMOTELY like what you've been asked.

Oh my dear God you would be raped if you chose Physics.

Bajingo · 04-02-2010 11:15PM

celtic723 wrote: »

The guy that's marking me is ****. He gave everyone 5 out of 5 last week for the phylogenies and dichotomous key but me and my lab partner only got 4.5! I expect the same tomorrow even though you should, by right get 5 for even getting anything REMOTELY like what you've been asked.

The lab demonstrators in Biology take things WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. It's quite stupid tbh.

What's that towards your end of year?

GlasnevinRed · 04-02-2010 11:15PM

Craguls, I wasn't lying about the blind watchmaker was I??

banjopaul · 04-02-2010 11:19PM

Craguls wrote: »

I'm pushing my luck with the lobster but the star fish is pretty cool.

I wonder how many people will coincidentally have these exact two fossil histories at their labs tomorrow...I know I will.:P

amacachi · 04-02-2010 11:22PM

banjopaul wrote: »

I wonder how many people will coincidentally have these exact two fossil histories at their labs tomorrow...I know I will.:P

Nah, I was close to that with them Lobster earlier, think I was just hoping for a bit much. :pac:

Craguls · 04-02-2010 11:22PM

GlasnevinRed wrote: »

Craguls, I wasn't lying about the blind watchmaker was I??

Took your advice in the end

banjopaul wrote:

I have no integrity

banjopaul · 04-02-2010 11:31PM

I most certainly have integrity, actually did them myself at home, downloaded the programme too..

*cheers for sending me the link bitch

GlasnevinRed · 04-02-2010 11:31PM

Craguls wrote: »

Took your advice in the end

A lot less stressful than being cooked up in the ham computer labs

amacachi · 04-02-2010 11:36PM

banjopaul wrote: »

I most certainly have integrity, actually did them myself at home, downloaded the programme too..

*cheers for sending me the link bitch

Couldn't actually find the program online when I looked. Though I didn't look that hard. :pac: Would've been handy to have it.

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