Science TR071

Bajingo

amacachi wrote: »

Not a clue. Looking forward to getting it though, should be a kick up the arse I badly need.

Just curious does the mark go to your end of year result in anyway? They didnt for me anyway..

amacachi

Bajingo wrote: »

Just curious does the mark go to your end of year result in anyway? They didnt for me anyway..

They're telling us it's worth 30 something percent I think.

Bajingo

amacachi wrote: »

They're telling us it's worth 30 something percent I think.

30%! Is it your lab work mcq? That should be around 30%..for a normal mcq I would have thought it would be worth around 5%..

Craguls

30% of the marks going for the lab work or 30% of the whole module?
I've heard reports saying both

amacachi

Yer man, beardy lad, definitely said it was 20 or 30 somethin percent of the whole module. I know a lad in 4th year now who said their labbooks didn't count towards the module grade at all, didn't mention an MCQ test though.

Craguls

I heard the same here, MCQ must be the only way they assess it then.

I do suppose unless you had a good lab book or showed up to the labs you wouldn't have been able to do a lot of the MCQ. Makes sense in that train of thought I guess

Jammyc

The MCQ for the practical classes (ie. the one we did) counts for 22% of the first semester Biology module (11% overall) I think then another 8% or so brings it to 30%. Dont hold me to that though.

I'm looking foreward to finally seeing what I hope to be a fairly goo grade in college, for once.

ApeXaviour

So any of you kids doing JF foundation physics by any chance?


(apologies if you've said what you were doing already, just not arsed reading the 16 pages of this thread to find out)

amacachi

ApeXaviour wrote: »

So any of you kids doing JF foundation physics by any chance?


(apologies if you've said what you were doing already, just not arsed reading the 16 pages of this thread to find out)

Nope.

Craguls

ApeXaviour wrote: »

So any of you kids doing JF foundation physics by any chance?


(apologies if you've said what you were doing already, just not arsed reading the 16 pages of this thread to find out)

I'm not myself but if my memory serves me correctly Jammyc is

Jammyc

ApeXaviour wrote: »

So any of you kids doing JF foundation physics by any chance?


(apologies if you've said what you were doing already, just not arsed reading the 16 pages of this thread to find out)

Craguls wrote: »

I'm not myself but if my memory serves me correctly Jammyc is

I am indeedy!:D

amacachi

To anyone who did geography, where's the title for the essay we've to do? Gonna be around tomorrow so it'd be nice to make a start before next week.

ApeXaviour

Jammyc wrote: »

I am indeedy!:D

Your labs wouldn't happen to be on Friday morning with Vincent Weldon would they?

SligoBrewer

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Your labs wouldn't happen to be on Friday morning with Vincent Weldon would they?

Please do us a favour a be as big a bastard with the marking for the Foundation Labs as they are with our normal Physics labs.

Jammyc

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Your labs wouldn't happen to be on Friday morning with Vincent Weldon would they?

naw thursday afternoon fp lab for me.

Jammyc

Are the basic chem tutorials on at the same time as last semester anyone know?

banjopaul

Jammyc wrote: »

Are the basic chem tutorials on at the same time as last semester anyone know?

Whoops forgot about them, what were all the times for last semester? I only ever went to tuesday afternoon.

Jammyc

banjopaul wrote: »

Whoops forgot about them, what were all the times for last semester? I only ever went to tuesday afternoon.

Heres the times from last semester

ApeXaviour

SligoBrewer wrote: »

Please do us a favour a be as big a bastard with the marking for the Foundation Labs as they are with our normal Physics labs.

Afraid we're told to go easy on the life/earth-science people. e.g. they don't have to do any error analysis.

Jammyc wrote: »

naw thursday afternoon fp lab for me.

Pity

SligoBrewer

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Afraid we're told to go easy on the life/earth-science people. e.g. they don't have to do any error analysis.

Are you serious. :eek:

ApeXaviour

Indeed. Apparently rigorous error analysis is "discouraging and counter productive" if you're definitely not going to specialise in physics. Which is fair enough, given that the foundation course is only half as long and worth half as much(?). In its stead they estimate the % error and think of two examples of where or how the experiment applies in the biological/medical/earth sciences.

Count your blessings. As crap as error analysis is, it does help shape you to start thinking like a physicist. You're better able to critically assess all sorts of spurious claims that would otherwise appear perfectly cogent.

So is anyone here in the foundation physics labs on friday mornings?

I'm doing JF Foundation Physics, thought it was a good choice since I'd wanted to do it for the leaving but didn't, and then after being slightly lost with the physics based stuff in Morton-Blake's lectures thought it might help me with that.
Since then all I've heard is bad stuff about it, like how apparently its pretty hard and if I haven't done it for the leaving I'll be completely lost...
... is this true??? The more I talk to people about it the more worried I get!!!

I'm down for the thursday afternoon lab btw.

Jammyc

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Pity..
So is anyone here in the foundation physics labs on friday mornings?

I take it youre going to be a teaching assistant or whatever yeah? Does this mean I can pm you for answers I cant (am too lazy) to figure out?:D

ApeXaviour

Jammyc wrote: »

I take it youre going to be a teaching assistant or whatever yeah? Does this mean I can pm you for answers I cant (am too lazy) to figure out?:D

It does and no you can't. Well you can, but I won't answer. If you have a genuine understanding/learning related question on the labs though I would be happy to help.

true-or-false wrote:

Since then all I've heard is bad stuff about it, like how apparently its pretty hard and if I haven't done it for the leaving I'll be completely lost...
... is this true??? The more I talk to people about it the more worried I get!!!

Don't fret. It's a modified course geared specifically towards life science students. You'll be fine. While your JF grades on the whole mean absolutely nothing (unless you're considering graduate school in the US (they try to make up a GPA for you)) I'd suggest taking from this course what you can. It can give you a valuable perspective in other areas science, and to some extent the world as a whole. Plus it'll likely be the last time you study physics.

Morton Blake's stuff is a little advanced, but since it's chemistry you won't be required to have a rigorous understanding of it.

Lastly if any of you thursday afternooners are girls, watch out for Ciaran, he's a proper flirt.

Jammyc

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Lastly if any of you thursday afternooners are girls, watch out for Ciaran, he's a proper flirt.

Tee hee *blushes*

lucernarian

Is physics for life sciences just the JF physics course with half the labs and experiments, or are the experiments actually different this year?

ApeXaviour

Same experiments, different course.

I take it you think the experiments should be different? Why?

lucernarian

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Same experiments, different course.

I take it you think the experiments should be different? Why?

Think you read a bit too much there. It strikes me as a possible issue, but I don't have an opinion on whether they should be different or not.

The fact that errors don't have to be considered to the same detail would definitely make the work more relevant to people studying it for a year. Although if the experiments were otherwise the same, they'd have to go through something equally as challenging as the full module, but instead they'd do it every fortnight/ for a semester. As opposed to experiments every week that have half the workload attached. I'm only wondering here; how challenging do physics for life sciences students find it compared to full physics students?

amacachi

So... no biology this week. No maths tutorials either. Bit of a pain, looks like I'll just be heading in Wednesday so.

danishidiot

One lecture this Wednesday (chemistry) will I go? Or will I stay in bed? God I sound lazy......I'm gonna go!