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What controller should I buy?

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    #122
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I should probably give it the week to see, cause honestly any time I've used mac's or seen them used I just do not get the hype at all.


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    #123
    acman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    Zascar wrote: »
    I should probably give it the week to see, cause honestly any time I've used mac's or seen them used I just do not get the hype at all.

    Yeah, you should really give Mac OS a fair shot before deciding it's "not really for me"...I'm willing to bet that once you overcome the learning curve of the different interface, you will never go back to windows!

    Now that you have a decent setup (traktor and wotnot) but still using a windows system, its like owning a scumbags car - great interior, loads of gadgets, quality sound system but it's still only a ford escort! :D

    Only when you move over to Mac will you have a Ferrari to run your setup :cool:


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    #124
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    acman wrote: »
    Funny how most of these "technical setup" threads end up in a Mac VS Windows debate. :D

    Bottom line is that if you use Windows for live performances, you are skating on thin ice, no matter how clean your system is. God help you if you system crashes and your employer finds out you are using Windows!

    For those of you wanting to move over to MAC but haven't cos it's just "not for me"...have you honestly tried using a Mac for more than 10 mins? You really do need to give it some time before giving up on it...trust me, it's worth a week's learning curve!

    And a months wages...


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    #125
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Just did a reinstall of xp and everything now works perfectly :D


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    #126
    VinylJunkie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    Zascar wrote: »
    VJ out of interest what is your setup?

    Pics from my phone I took a few weeks ago, I have since got some new monitor speakers.
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    Two Technics 1210's, a CDJ-200, a CDJ-400, a DJM-600 and Torq 1.5.1 although I don't use Torq.

    Oh and a lovely table and couch from Ikea.


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    #127
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Not out yet, but this looks pretty cool:

    Vestax TR1

    Vestax-TR-1.jpg

    http://ci.vestax.com/en/products/tr1_01.html
    http://www.digitaljockey.it/dij/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=524:vestax-tr-1-la-recensione&catid=101&Itemid=56&lang=en


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    #128
    acman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    Zascar wrote: »
    Not out yet, but this looks pretty cool:

    Vestax TR1

    [IMG][/IMG]

    http://ci.vestax.com/en/products/tr1_01.html
    http://www.digitaljockey.it/dij/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=524:vestax-tr-1-la-recensione&catid=101&Itemid=56&lang=en

    Holy monkey Jesus....£429.00 for a midi controller? :eek:


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    #129
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    acman wrote: »
    Holy monkey Jesus....£429.00 for a midi controller? :eek:
    Midi controllers get a lot more expensive than that!!

    How much did your CDJ's and DJM800 costs you mate??? :p


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    #130
    acman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    Zascar wrote: »
    Midi controllers get a lot more expensive than that!!

    How much did your CDJ's and DJM800 costs you mate??? :p

    You are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to go down that route, how much did you pay for the laptop and DJing software too then?

    MIDI controllers are nothing more than a few buttons that allow you to control a device. A glorified mouse if you will...just because this particular controller has a few "DJ Friendly" buttons on it doesn't justify the money. There are much cheaper alternatives out there that do the same job.


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    #131
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I know I'm only teasing dude! ;)

    As I said, its personal preference. If money was no object I'd probably have a similar setup to your own with decks, mixer and serato/traktor etc etc - but personally I like the dj specific all in one's - just what I'm used to really. I have the uc33 set up with traktor right now - dirt cheap piece of kit and can do most of what you need it to on Traktor but I just won't enjoy mixing on it as much as my last one which is why I opted to go another route.


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    #132
    VinylJunkie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    Is there any sand left on the beaches at all, Gentlemen put down your handbags ;)


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    #133
    acman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭acman


    VinylJunkie wrote: »
    Is there any sand left on the beaches at all, Gentlemen put down your handbags ;)

    ?


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    #134
    VinylJunkie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    acman wrote: »
    ?

    Never mind :p


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    #135
    milltown
    Registered Users Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭milltown


    acman wrote: »
    Holy monkey Jesus....£429.00 for a midi controller? :eek:

    And no jogs?
    Surely if you're sticking to your DJ specific guns you may as well have a pair of wheels to nudge and cue with.


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    #136
    Zascar
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    No but it does have the little pitch bend buttons...


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    #137
    brianc27
    Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭brianc27


    jog wheels are horrible, dj specific midi controllers in general are horrible, they are what turned me off switching to traktor originally until i learned a bit more about midi and traktor and realised you dont actualy need these monstrosities


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    #138
    jtsuited
    Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    brianc27 wrote: »
    jog wheels are horrible, dj specific midi controllers in general are horrible, they are what turned me off switching to traktor originally until i learned a bit more about midi and traktor and realised you dont actualy need these monstrosities

    agreed. awful awful things. have never seen a serious dj use one once. they all remind of that hercules thingy you could get in argos.


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    #139
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Zascar wrote: »
    I should probably give it the week to see, cause honestly any time I've used mac's or seen them used I just do not get the hype at all.

    Used to use my PC for Traktor and had serious problems, loadsa lag and shít sound, then I switched to my Macbook and it runs clean as a whistle. Couldn't imagine anyone using a Windows in a club.
    acman wrote: »
    Holy monkey Jesus....£429.00 for a midi controller? :eek:

    http://www.thomann.de/gb/allenheath_xone4d.htm


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    #140
    Zascar
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    electrogrimey wrote: »
    http://www.thomann.de/gb/allenheath_xone4d.htm

    In fairness that is a LOT more than just a Midi Controller - it is an unbelievable piece of kit, but seriously expensive. However, A&H are bringing out the Xone DX which is just a Midi Controller which comes with Serato Itch, and it will be about €1500!

    I chose my setup for a number of reasons - personal preference cause of what i am used to - and flexibility. I can now do exactly as jt recommended and use the UC33 with the House Mixer when in a club - and when at home I have the vestax along with the UC33 for effects or multiple decks etc. Joker gave me a demo of his Vestax and I really like it. The vestax, uc33 & soundcard cost me less than the price of one CDJ-800 - which I think is pretty good. This obviously excludes the laptop which I already have - but I will prob get a Mac in time if I'm going to be gigging out more.


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    #141
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Zascar wrote: »
    I will prob get a Mac in time if I'm going to be gigging out more.

    Just some advice if you're getting a mac, get it from the refurbished store. They're 100% guaranteed to be exactly the same as a first hand one, 'cept with a few hundred off, I got mine there and it was perfect. http://store.apple.com/ie-business/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTA4MzMxOTI


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    #142
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Cheers, yeah someone else suggested even getting a second hand one for cheap, any basic Mac would do the job I'm sure - I don't need it for doing anything else really anyway.


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    #143
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    You'd have some snobs in the crowd tutting if you didn't get a Pro though. :rolleyes:


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    #144
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Just wondering how limited Traktor LE is? Will I end up having to buy the full Traktor Pro after a week? Thinking of ordering that Audio 2 DJ in the next few days, looks like the best one out there, isn't it? It comes with LE, is that decent enough to use?


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    #145
    ED E
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    electrogrimey wrote: »
    Just wondering how limited Traktor LE is? Will I end up having to buy the full Traktor Pro after a week? Thinking of ordering that Audio 2 DJ in the next few days, looks like the best one out there, isn't it? It comes with LE, is that decent enough to use?

    I have 3 LE, its its pretty much the basic package of whats essential. You loose the effects, samplers etc etc.

    LE (IMO) is just a giveaway with controllers to try and get people interested, then they can upgrade to full when they realise how it limits them.


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    #146
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Give Traktor Pro a go, its very impressive - way more comprehensive. There is a demo available here: http://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=tprodemoversion

    traktor_pro.gif


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    #147
    ED E
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    Zascar wrote: »
    Give Traktor Pro a go, its very impressive - way more comprehensive. There is a demo available I'm sure

    There is :)


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    #148
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    I've tried a version of Pro ripped from the internet, just to try it out, but if I was gonna be using it live I'd want a real version, was just wondering how different LE was. I suppose one could just use the effects on the club mixer...


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    #149
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Just saw this: http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/dj/traktor-le/?page=662

    So basically all LE is missing is extra effects and the quantize feature, which begs the question of whether the €129 upgrade is worth it? (Ordered my Audio 2 DJ last night by the way, which comes with LE, hence the discussion)


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    #150
    electrogrimey
    Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    It might be an idea to use this thread as a place for asking questions about controller set-ups, maybe you could change the name and sticky it Colly? I'm always linking people to this, seeing as it has so much information.

    I've a wee question actually, what's the best/easiest way to upgrade from a 2 channel soundcard to a 4 channel soundcard? I've an Audio 2 DJ, and in future I'm going to want to be able to use all 4 channels on Traktor, is buying an Audio 8 DJ the only option? You can't have 2 seperate soundcards can you? €400 for an Audio 8 is not really something I can afford ATM, especially just for a soundcard. If I was to get a cheaper one, would clubs be likely to have a Audio 8 as standard, or will we have to wait a few years for that? Just say this, the NIO 2/4, seems to be the only other option I can see, anyone have any experience of the quality of it's use with Traktor?


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    #151
    romarr
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭romarr


    i have the wee little Novation Nio fella ... its a good option for the price. never used it with traktor, ableton only. the sound is good, never really had any problems with it (some driver issues on win 7, went mac havent looked back)


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