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  • #332
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    serenacat wrote: »
    I think porn kills romance in a relationship and shouldnt be used when in a relationship with someone. I don't like porn at all and although it has been said her that i was watching hardcore stuff i think things that happen in pornos are demeaning women and am shocked that women here watch it with their partners. I doubt they are doing it for their own enjoyment are more for their partners.

    serenacat, can you think beyond your own little world for one minute, please. just because you dont like something does not mean that nobody else can really like it either.

    lots of women here have posted that they enjot watching porn with their partners. who the hell are you to stand in judgement on them and assume they're not enjoying it??

    i'm quite prepared to put my hand up and say that i enjoy watching porn, with and without a partner. it has never had a negative effect on a relationship and if anything it actually enhanced it.


    also, not every woman finds some of the stuff degrading, it's a matter of personal taste. also, *shock horror* some women find it degrading but like to be degraded, that's what gets them off, surprising though it may seem to you.

    serenacat wrote: »
    pressure on women to do these things, such as anal and ejaculation on her body/face which is disrespectful in my mind


    newsflash: some women like anal. hell, some women love anal. ditto for ejaculation on face/body.

    each to their own and all that.


  • #333
    serenacat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭serenacat


    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.
    LIL KITTEN sex tapes and porn are different, because being paid to do it is like prostitution unlike a sex tape which is just for the two of you (although i wouldnt do this myself just in case it got out!) also where is this romantic porn? seriously i couldnt find anything without something offensive in it! i would watch one and be like' ok a pizza man...and a girl and then something weird would happen(can't say as may get banned)' point me to a nice porn film where women is not degraded please and i will take your point that maybe i was very unlucky and got hardcore things while this isn't the majority.


  • #334
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.
    LIL KITTEN sex tapes and porn are different, because being paid to do it is like prostitution unlike a sex tape which is just for the two of you (although i wouldnt do this myself just in case it got out!) also where is this romantic porn? seriously i couldnt find anything without something offensive in it! i would watch one and be like' ok a pizza man...and a girl and then something weird would happen(can't say as may get banned)' point me to a nice porn film where women is not degraded please and i will take your point that maybe i was very unlucky and got hardcore things while this isn't the majority.
    Bahahahahaha wow what an intelligent comment. Yes if a guy wants to do anal with his girlfriend he is gay, thats almost as good as an ex once saying anyone who does it doggystyle is gay.

    Oh and I actually know two or 3 girls that like anal and to be ejaculated, Just cos yer old fashioned and not sexually adventurous doesn't mean you can judge those of us that are


  • #335
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    sam34 wrote: »
    serenacat, can you think beyond your own little world for one minute, please. just because you dont like something does not mean that nobody else can really like it either.

    lots of women here have posted that they enjot watching porn with their partners. who the hell are you to stand in judgement on them and assume they're not enjoying it??

    i'm quite prepared to put my hand up and say that i enjoy watching porn, with and without a partner. it has never had a negative effect on a relationship and if anything it actually enhanced it.


    also, not every woman finds some of the stuff degrading, it's a matter of personal taste. also, *shock horror* some women find it degrading but like to be degraded, that's what gets them off, surprising though it may seem to you.


    newsflash: some women like anal. hell, some women love anal. ditto for ejaculation on face/body.

    each to their own and all that.
    Post best expresses my views on the subject to


  • #336
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.

    HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    thanks for that, gave me a great laugh

    maybe men like the tighter sensations from anal?
    maybe they like the taboo aspect?

    maybe women like the physical sensations and also teh taboo aspect?

    you clearly havent a clue what youre pontificating about


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  • #337
    Catari Jaguar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.
    LIL KITTEN sex tapes and porn are different, because being paid to do it is like prostitution unlike a sex tape which is just for the two of you (although i wouldnt do this myself just in case it got out!) also where is this romantic porn? seriously i couldnt find anything without something offensive in it! i would watch one and be like' ok a pizza man...and a girl and then something weird would happen(can't say as may get banned)' point me to a nice porn film where women is not degraded please and i will take your point that maybe i was very unlucky and got hardcore things while this isn't the majority.

    Oh for god's sake Serenacat you haven't a CLUE what you're talking about!!! You don't even know what porn is FFS!

    Pammy and Tommy Lees leaked sex tape became one of the most watched pornos of all time! AMATEUR PORN ISN'T PAID, AND PORN ISN'T PROSTITUTION.

    THERE IS PLENTY OF PORN THAT IS NOT HARD CORE!

    Anal is gay? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  • #338
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    serenacat wrote: »
    i would watch one and be like' ok a pizza man...and a girl and then something weird would happen

    like sex?


  • #339
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.

    you do know you don't speak for every woman in the world, don't you?

    just because you don't like something does not mean no other women like it.

    i'm pretty open minded when it comes to sex, but i admit that i don't get the whole scat fetish, it doesn't do anything for me. however, i recognise and acknowledge that others love it. fair enough. i dont particularly care what they get up to, i dont search for it when i go looking at porn, and it doesnt bother me. i'm nor so arrogant or conceited that i think i can generalise my view to others, or stand in judgement on their sexual preferences.


  • #340
    Novella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.
    LIL KITTEN sex tapes and porn are different, because being paid to do it is like prostitution unlike a sex tape which is just for the two of you (although i wouldnt do this myself just in case it got out!) also where is this romantic porn? seriously i couldnt find anything without something offensive in it! i would watch one and be like' ok a pizza man...and a girl and then something weird would happen(can't say as may get banned)' point me to a nice porn film where women is not degraded please and i will take your point that maybe i was very unlucky and got hardcore things while this isn't the majority.

    I honestly don't actually know if you're being serious here or not.

    If a guy is gay, guess what? He'd do anal WITH ANOTHER MAN! The fact he wants to do it with a woman is what suggests his sexual orientation to me, not where he wants to put it. Oh, and some women do enjoy anal. Maybe you don't, and that's fine. I can think of loads of things I don't like; dance music, fake tan, bananas, etc., but it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with these things or that other people shouldn't like them.

    Personally, I have no problem with porn. Yeah, I watch it sometimes. You think the woman is being degraded, why? Because sometimes the word "slut" etc. comes into play? That does actually turn some people on. It's also hardly degrading considering she has consented to it.

    I understand that it's not your cup of tea but it is a bit unfair to be so hell bent on convincing us that the only way to have sex is nice and slow and cuddly 'cause tbh, while that's lovely, I would get bored pretty fast if it was a constant for me.


  • #341
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,612 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.

    Wow, just..wow. I really don't know where to start with that. I hope for the sake of your partner that you're not serious.

    So does this mean that if men want hand jobs/oral sex they're gay too? As shock shock horror, gay men also engage in those activities.
    serenacat wrote: »
    LIL KITTEN sex tapes and porn are different, because being paid to do it is like prostitution unlike a sex tape which is just for the two of you (although i wouldnt do this myself just in case it got out!)

    You are wrong. If you videotape yourself having sex with your partner, it is considered pornographic.

    The definition of pornography -

    1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
    2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

    I think the whole problem stems from your lack of understanding of the term pornography. It's not just blonde bimbos with big bouncing breasts having orgies that end in massive cumshots.


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  • #342
    Joycey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Joycey


    o1s1n wrote: »
    You are wrong. If you videotape yourself having sex with your partner, it is considered pornographic.

    The definition of pornography -

    1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
    2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

    Yeah but she said if you get paid to do it its prostitution, which I have a lot of sympathy with TBH. I dont agree with anything else shes said in the whole thread, but I cant really see the different between someone paying a prostitute to f*ck another prostitute and watching (prostitution, right?), and someone paying for porn where one actor(prostitute) f*cks another actor(prostitute) so that they can watch it. I mean, getting someone to have sex with someone else in your presence while you jack off is a sex act right?

    I think an interesting comparison to make is between the producers and the distributors of porn, who presumably make a whole lot more money at much less risk than the actors, and pimps of prostitutes who are in essentially the same boat - profitting from the sex work done by others. If porn is to be made legal (as it should be IMO, as well as prostitution), then there should be a ban on the middle people in the equation who would be analagous to pimps. What would result would be an industry completely like any other in the capitalist system as it now stands, as far as I can see.

    What do ye think of the whole producer/distributor pimp analogy? Have I gone wrong somewhere?


  • #343
    Jules
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    I have posted up warnings, only warning to a few posters. Please keep the conversation civil and do not outwardly laugh at other posters. Keep the conversation civil.


  • #344
    oceanclub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Honest question for Serenacat, but how old are you? You come across in your attitude and the way you write as a young teen; so if you _are_ a teen, I guess that explains it, but if you're an adult I would find it odd.

    P.


  • #345
    1sittingduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 38 ✭1sittingduck


    Jules wrote: »
    ...the likes of three guys cuming on a girls face at the same time, turns my stomach. It's degrading

    What I find difficult to understand is how that's seen as something acceptable. I acknowledge that tastes and fetishes differ; but, trying my best to look at it from a cold, objective viewpoint, I can't see how such acts can be anything but degrading.
    Jules wrote: »
    I do remember seeing...one of the most loving and tender porno clips...Mightly impressed!

    Although, it does sound much more approachable (lost for the right word at the mo - sorry :o), I still believe that full-frontal intimacy would be better left private. That's where most other couples do it. Their reasons for doing it in private relate to one of my reasons why porn isn't justifiable.


  • #346
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,612 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Joycey wrote: »
    Yeah but she said if you get paid to do it its prostitution, which I have a lot of sympathy with TBH. I dont agree with anything else shes said in the whole thread, but I cant really see the different between someone paying a prostitute to f*ck another prostitute and watching (prostitution, right?), and someone paying for porn where one actor(prostitute) f*cks another actor(prostitute) so that they can watch it. I mean, getting someone to have sex with someone else in your presence while you jack off is a sex act right?

    I think an interesting comparison to make is between the producers and the distributors of porn, who presumably make a whole lot more money at much less risk than the actors, and pimps of prostitutes who are in essentially the same boat - profitting from the sex work done by others. If porn is to be made legal (as it should be IMO, as well as prostitution), then there should be a ban on the middle people in the equation who would be analagous to pimps. What would result would be an industry completely like any other in the capitalist system as it now stands, as far as I can see.

    What do ye think of the whole producer/distributor pimp analogy? Have I gone wrong somewhere?

    My own understanding of prostitution would be Person A paying Person B to have sex with them. Person A gets off on this contact with person B.

    While I see what you're saying about a person paying two prostitutes having sex with each other and getting off on that, they're still getting a 1 on 1 as they're in the presence of the prostututes. It's still leaps and bounds away from watching porn on a screen.

    A better one to equate it to would be websites where you pay to cam with girls. Which could be seen as a form of prostitution.

    In traditional bog standard porn, the people having sex are for all intent purposes just actors who aren't paying each other to get off on it. All those moans (Well, the majority of them!) are faked for effect.

    The director isn't paying them to get off on it either. It's all just business. Nobody within the vicinity is paying anyone to get off on anything.


  • #347
    Joycey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Joycey


    o1s1n wrote: »
    My own understanding of prostitution would be Person A paying Person B to have sex with them. Person A gets off on this contact with person B.

    Well then it comes down to what your definition of prostitution and/or what constitutes a sex act is. If you see a prostitute as someone who engages in sexual acts with another person for money, then it doesnt really make a different whether the one whos paying the money is the one their doing it with IMO.

    I think we need to start looking at these things from the person who may or may not be getting exploited, as opposed from our own viewpoints as consumers.
    While I see what you're saying about a person paying two prostitutes having sex with each other and getting off on that, they're still getting a 1 on 1 as they're in the presence of the prostututes. It's still leaps and bounds away from watching porn on a screen.

    For you or me as the consumer, yeah. For sure your probably right in saying that in most instances there is something in the fact that the person you are pretending to enjoy having sex with (including possibly having 3 guys cuming on your face) is also an actor, however at the end of the day you are still engaging in a sex act with someone because you are getting paid for it.

    Think of all the reason's why you personally dont want to sell yourself for sex. Then see how many of them are influenced by the fact that the person whos paying you is a) having sex with you or b) watching/recording it. Not many i'd imagine.
    A better one to equate it to would be websites where you pay to cam with girls. Which could be seen as a form of prostitution.

    TBH i see absolutely no difference between pre-recorded porn and people stripping in front of a live camera, except that the live videos are usually less hardcore AFAIK.
    The director isn't paying them to get off on it either. It's all just business. Nobody within the vicinity is paying anyone to get off on anything.

    The director isnt, but the producer is. And the distributors are (if only indirectly).

    So the pimp/producer is essentially collecting the money from the trick/consumer, giving the prostitute/porn actor a certain "cut", probably nothing close to what is actually being made from the video, doesnt matter whether its filmed in order to be put up on the web or to be sold on dvd.

    Now I cant see the qualitative different between the way a pimp profits from a prostitute and the way the porn "industry" profits from the actors. If we outlaw one, and we most definitely should, then we should also outlaw the other.

    Edit: im not saying outlaw prostitution and porn, im saying outlaw pimping and whatever the equivalent is for porn


  • #348
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    I think you are muddling the definitions of prostitution.

    A porn star is not for hire to have sexual relations with a buyer for money, they are not prostitutes. You may think having sex with another paid actor and someone filming it is prostituting themselves and a less than admirable choice of career but that's quite distinct from being a prostitute.

    Prostitution isn't actually illegal, btw, it's brothels and pimping and so on that are illegal.


  • #349
    serenacat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭serenacat


    Raze_them_all wrote: »
    Bahahahahaha wow what an intelligent comment. Yes if a guy wants to do anal with his girlfriend he is gay, thats almost as good as an ex once saying anyone who does it doggystyle is gay.

    Oh and I actually know two or 3 girls that like anal and to be ejaculated, Just cos yer old fashioned and not sexually adventurous doesn't mean you can judge those of us that are
    can i just point the hypocrisy of posters calling me out on judging those that watch porn that are obviously judging me for not watching it. I never singled a poster out and told them to get a life and stop watching porn i've just been stating my views on the subject.

    Really why are my views so offensive to people ,i am slating porn not the people who watch it i haven't said anything about the people that watch it just that i dont like it and my reasons for not liking it.

    also i am 21 it was my bday a few days ago.

    side note just because i am only anti-porn posters doesn't mean i am the only one who feels this way i have had some pms from shy girls afraid to post about it. And i don't blame them considering how personally posters are taking this.


  • #350
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    serenacat wrote: »
    can i just point the hypocrisy of posters calling me out on judging those that watch porn that are obviously judging me for not watching it. I never singled a poster out and told them to get a life and stop watching porn i've just been stating my views on the subject.

    Really why are my views so offensive to people ,i am slating porn not the people who watch it i haven't said anything about the people that watch it just that i dont like it and my reasons for not liking it.

    also i am 21 it was my bday a few days ago.

    side note just because i am only anti-porn posters doesn't mean i am the only one who feels this way i have had some pms from shy girls afraid to post about it. And i don't blame them considering how personally posters are taking this.
    Actually that was aimed at your comment that said any guy that does/want anal sex is gay. I've done it and usually it was the girl that wanted to try that out, so does that mean that I'm gay or that the girl secretly wishes to be a gay man?

    So it is not hypocritical.You made a broad judgement of any man that has done anal in the past and wishes too in the future. My post was nothing to do with you not watching porn, it was to do with your inaccurate statement.


  • #351
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    serenacat wrote: »
    can i just point the hypocrisy of posters calling me out on judging those that watch porn that are obviously judging me for not watching it. I never singled a poster out and told them to get a life and stop watching porn i've just been stating my views on the subject.

    Really why are my views so offensive to people ,i am slating porn not the people who watch it i haven't said anything about the people that watch it just that i dont like it and my reasons for not liking it.

    If you don't want people to take what you say personally how about stop making crass generalisations to try and lend credence to your own personal views, ie;
    serenacat wrote: »
    porno give men bad ideas about women and how to treat them and what we like in bed etc. No good comes of it really.
    serenacat wrote: »
    because if it's addictive nature you use to to get turned on or get an orgasm and then you can't orgasm without referring back to it this is damaging to relationship
    serenacat wrote: »
    it is sad that you need to watch others having sex when in a loving relationship you shouldnt need to watch others.
    serenacat wrote: »
    Maybe not alot of posters here are having sex with someone they love and can't compare
    serenacat wrote: »
    I think the reason no one here is saying similar things as me is because all posters are internet savvy and have internet access and very techy and therefore are more likely to watch porn that the average person worldwide
    serenacat wrote: »
    I doubt they are doing it for their own enjoyment are more for their partners

    ...to name but a few - need I go on? Seriously, have any view you want about pornography in relation to you and yours but the minute you start making personal accusations and assumptions about other people, you can take it as a given they are going to take those personally. Stop making it personal and people will stop taking it personally.


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  • #352
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Really why are my views so offensive to people ,i am slating porn not the people who watch it i haven't said anything about the people that watch it just that i dont like it and my reasons for not liking it.

    You also said women who watch porn obviously arent doing it for themselves, are being degraded, you couldnt believe some of them like anal and the like and that any guy who likes anal is gay? which is all utter nonsense, did you mean a guy recieving or giving anal? either way it doesnt mean he's gay, some women love to recieve anal sex, some would love the idea of doing it to their boyfriend with a sex toy, you can buy these in any high street Ann Summers shop, wouldnt be my bag but during a frank/drunken discussion about sex with a close friend he said he loved doing that, doesnt mean he likes men he just likes anal stimulation.
    Although by your reasoning since all of my gay friends love getting blowjobs, does that mean I'm gay because I do too? or do women not really like doing that either?


  • #353
    oceanclub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    serenacat wrote: »
    i am slating porn not the people who watch it

    Er, you already said that people who watch anal sex must be gay.
    side note just because i am only anti-porn posters doesn't mean i am the only one who feels this way i have had some pms from shy girls afraid to post about it. And i don't blame them considering how personally posters are taking this.

    Ah, the old "I have loads of private supporters" gambit (I think there was an xkcd cartoon about that).

    P.


  • #354
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    oceanclub wrote: »
    Er, you already said that people who watch anal sex must be gay.



    Ah, the old "I have loads of private supporters" gambit (I think there was an xkcd cartoon about that).

    P.

    Yup, calling shenanigans on that one, on an anonymous forum i doubt anyone wouldnt want to say they dont like porn because they're "shy", theres a lot more personal stuff discussed on here daily aside from whether porn is a good or bad thing


  • #355
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    serenacat wrote: »
    Really why are my views so offensive to people ,i am slating porn not the people who watch it i haven't said anything about the people that watch it just that i dont like it and my reasons for not liking it..

    emmmm, are you quite sure about that?

    serenacat wrote: »
    I dont agree with porn as it destroys relationship and takes the intimacy out of sex and makes sex a means to an end. also some porno give men bad ideas about women and how to treat them and what we like in bed etc. No good comes of it really.
    serenacat wrote: »
    i can't fathom that women would watch it with their partners! why? it is sad that you need to watch others having sex when in a loving relationship you shouldnt need to watch others.



    What ever happened to nice music, sex with someone you are inlove with, baths, slow lighting etc... is romance dead?

    here is my advice delete the porn sites you have book marked on your internet and take a nice long bath with candles with your SO.
    serenacat wrote: »
    Maybe not alot of posters here are having sex with someone they love and can't compare.
    serenacat wrote: »
    It is addictive it de-sensitizes you.
    serenacat wrote: »
    I think porn kills romance in a relationship and shouldnt be used when in a relationship with someone..
    serenacat wrote: »
    i think things that happen in pornos are demeaning women and am shocked that women here watch it with their partners. I doubt they are doing it for their own enjoyment are more for their partners.
    serenacat wrote: »
    I think it can give people such ideas you mentioned and pressure on women to do these things, such as anal and ejaculation on her body/face which is disrespectful in my mind
    serenacat wrote: »
    if a guy wants to do anal he is gay, and cant believe any girl would want to do that.

    you have openly criticised the relationships, intimacy of those relationships, sexual preferences and sexual habits of people here.

    that's pretty personal.

    so dont be surprised if people take it personally.

    you show a remarkable inability to acknowledge that others have thoughts/beliefs/morals/habits/practices that differ from yours yet are still acceptable.

    form an opinion and apply it to your own life, noone will care if you do that. but dont think we should all adhere to your ideals.

    edit, beaten to it by ickle magoo, i should read whole thread before posting reply!


  • #356
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    She's not going to change her opinion. You're wasting your time...


  • #357
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Am i the only woman who thinks porn is incredibly boring ..there's no context, there nothing erotic or sensual about it...

    I don't understand how any woman could be jealous of their bf or what ever watching porn ..its on a computer its not real..

    I do understand women having other objections to porn ...

    for example i think it take away form the beauty and sensuality of real sex

    it demeans both men and women and make objects of women

    its influencing society in a way we cant realy comprehend yet ( not in a good way )

    it sets up the false idea that the only way of being sexy is... being blond, slim, having hairless pubs, and large breasts ..

    and #shock horror#..it is possible to be uninhibited and comfortable with you sexuality and still find porn objectionable


  • #358
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Am i the only woman who thinks porn is incredibly boring ..there's no context, there nothing erotic or sensual about it...

    I don't understand how any woman could be jealous of their bf or what ever watching porn ..its on a computer its not real..

    I do understand women having other objections to porn ...

    for example i think it take away form the beauty and sensuality of real sex

    it demeans both men and women and make objects of women

    its influencing society in a way we cant realy comprehend yet ( not in a good way )

    it sets up the false idea that the only way of being sexy is... being blond, slim, having hairless pubs, and large breasts ..

    and #shock horror#..it is possible to be uninhibited and comfortable with you sexuality and still find porn objectionable
    This is false, I can think of a porn star with blue short hair, is pale white, pierced and has small breasts.


  • #359
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Am i the only woman who thinks porn is incredibly boring ..there's no context, there nothing erotic or sensual about it...

    I don't understand how any woman could be jealous of their bf or what ever watching porn ..its on a computer its not real..

    I do understand women having other objections to porn ...

    for example i think it take away form the beauty and sensuality of real sex

    it demeans both men and women and make objects of women

    its influencing society in a way we cant realy comprehend yet ( not in a good way )

    it sets up the false idea that the only way of being sexy is... being blond, slim, having hairless pubs, and large breasts ..

    and #shock horror#..it is possible to be uninhibited and comfortable with you sexuality and still find porn objectionable

    You are describing barbie doll porn, really really crap pron from California, if you actually watched porn you would realise that brunette is WAY more popular right now.

    Blond was for the 90's, Dark hair is where it's at.

    It's not influencing society at all, it's been here a LONG time, and will be here for a long time to come.


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    maybe i could have put that better ...it would be better to say porn have narrowed the defection of what is sexy ...and the spread of the fashion for brazilian waxing can definitely be traced from porn thats a fact ...porn has made something that a small minority of women did in to a cultural norm and i think thats not good...and i don't like the fact that woman cant object to porn with being seen as prudish...


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    minidazzler
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    maybe i could have put that better ...it would be better to say porn have narrowed the defection of what is sexy ...and the spread of the fashion for brazilian waxing can definitely be traced from porn thats a fact ...porn has made something that a small minority of women did in to a cultural norm and i think thats not good...and i don't like the fact that woman cant object to porn with being seen as prudish...

    In fairness, being against porn for such frivilous reasons as how women treat their Yoni's just doesn't compute with me.

    Nothing wrong with taking care of down there, noone likes hair in their mouth after all. (Though I am partial to a tidy amount being there.

    Are you against Cosmo and Vogue for the same reasons you are against porn?


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