Global Warming.

Cian92 · 06-01-2010 09:16PM #1

I for one hope the ice caps, are benefitting from this cold snap. Now that it's cold you don't hear anything about this global warming shit.

My name is URL · 06-01-2010 09:17PM

Do you disagree that any change is taking place in the global climate?

Milky Moo · 06-01-2010 09:18PM

Global warming causes extremes of all weather.

ball · 06-01-2010 09:18PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Do you disagree that any change is taking place in the global climate?

It's called "Winter"

06-01-2010 09:19PM

Forget about global warming ...

We are entering a a new ICE AGE!

freezing my bollix off.

Mike 1972 · 06-01-2010 09:19PM

Its called climate change * now (because there were too many people out there who couldnt understand how global warming could lead to localised cooling)

* mind you the new phrase has problems of its own

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 06-01-2010 09:20PM

They should take the money made from carbon tax and spend it on salt for the roads

Kashkai · 06-01-2010 09:22PM

Climate change may or may not be a natural/manmade occurence but don't you think its at least funny that after the big song and dance do-nothing useful conference in Copenhagen recently on the impending disaster that awaits us from global warming, we then have the coldest winter in decades:D. You HAVE to see the funny side in all this, unless you're a member of the Green party, speaking of which, where is our green environment minister who has responsibility for funding the local authorities. Perhaps he's so convinced about this heating up of the planet that he's living in denial of the cold snap and thus won't dole out money to get more salt/grit on the roads.:rolleyes:

My name is URL · 06-01-2010 09:25PM

ball wrote: »

It's called "Winter"

Yeah, tell that to the people directly affected by changes to the climate. Islands been overrun by the sea in the Pacific etc

just because it's not caused by man doesn't mean it should be brushed aside as rubbish.. it's happening, whatever it may be that's causing it

Is it not about time for people to swallow their pride and accept that climate change is real? Maybe then we'll be able to come up with ways of dealing with it, instead of retorts on how it isn't man-made

philologos · 06-01-2010 09:27PM

OP you should have put a poll up, "Do you believe in global warming?" Yes or no.

Turtwig · 06-01-2010 09:30PM

Jakkass wrote: »

OP you should have put a poll up, "Do you believe in global warming?" Yes or no.

Please don't OP.
I've read and seen enough depressing stuff lately.:(

electrogrimey · 06-01-2010 09:30PM

Jakkass wrote: »

OP you should have put a poll up, "Do you believe in global warming?" Yes or no.

Even better, do you believe in climate change. Global Warming will confuse people. :rolleyes:

Pompey Magnus · 06-01-2010 09:34PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Is it not about time for people to swallow their pride and accept that climate change is real? Maybe then we'll be able to come up with ways of dealing with it, instead of retorts on how it isn't man-made

Are there actually people who deny that climate change occurs? I mean people who believe the Earth has had the same climate for the past 4 billion years, because I haven't met them. The whole debate centres on whether its man made or not, if we don't know that then we can't address the problem (if there is one and if it can be addressed).

philologos · 06-01-2010 09:40PM

Charco - Climate change occurs throughout history. I think we should be aiming to find alternatives to oil and other things, but I am not sure at present as to whether or not global warming is occurring. I mean wasn't it the point that the co2 was removing the ozone layer, and warming the earth, melting the polar ice caps?

The_Kew_Tour · 06-01-2010 09:40PM

Global Warming :eek::eek::eek:

Turtwig · 06-01-2010 09:42PM

Charco wrote: »

The whole debate centres on whether its man made or not, if we don't know that then we can't address the problem (if there is one and if it can be addressed).

I disagree the whole issue is that no one denys our climate is changing it's just genuine* skeptics aren't convinced by the significance of our role in it. This leads to one central argument : Is the best way to combat climate change by
Adaptation alone, or Adaptation combined with Mitigation?
It's really that simple.

To be perfectly honest if it's not man made then we will be in for an even stickier ride because mitigation is far more practical than adaptation.
* I say genuine because alot of people tend to just go into a groupthink and read and discuss rubbish from frankly god awful pseudo science.

Are there actually people who deny that climate change occurs? I mean people who believe the Earth has had the same climate for the past 4 billion years, because I haven't met them.

Like everything in life there are some.

SoupyNorman · 06-01-2010 09:43PM

I believe that the planet is overpopulated and close to a tipping point, there can be no question that we are having SOME tangible impact on the earth.... The human race really is just like a virus.

However the earth does go through it's own extreme weather cycles, this is not to be forgotton. Ice ages, extended warm periods....Sea leves have risen and fell numerous times.

For us we are hyper-sensitive to it because we are threatened with it now, it's not just some record in a history book and this hyper-sensitivity can lead to many different avenues of speculation as to what is causing the changes in the weather.

For me I believe that it is Human and naturally driven.

ball · 06-01-2010 09:46PM

We have one really hot week and one really cold week every year.
Every time they come around, people get excited about climate change.

This is the first time we've had a decent amount of snow in a while.
Enjoy it while it lasts.

I'll see you in 5-6 months time when the sun shines more than most months

Turtwig · 06-01-2010 09:48PM

Jakkass wrote: »

it the point that the co2 was removing the ozone layer, and warming the earth, melting the polar ice caps?

CFCs (which are also a minute proportion of GHG) were removing the ozone layer.
Melting the polar ice caps is only part really tiny piece of it.:)

General predictions for ireland are just two general seasons (winter and summer).
Increased frequency of intense of rainfall in winter, and in summer increased periods of drought with possibly increased frequency of intense rainfall.
It is predicted that certain crops in ireland (e.g potatoes -can't remember the other ones) will become hard, if not impossible, to cultivate and grow by farmers.
Certain ecosystems will be threatened and many low lying areas will be subject to more flooding.

philologos · 06-01-2010 09:50PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

I believe that the planet is overpopulated and close to a tipping point, there can be no question that we are having SOME tangible impact on the earth.... The human race really is just like a virus..

I don't think we should condemn ourselves for existing. Humans are having a negative impact on the environment in numerous ways including:
1) Landfill
2) Polluting rivers / seas
3) Increasing erosion by modifying rivers and sea structures
4) Causing smog
5) Desertification
6) Destroying rainforests etc.

We also happen to be wasting food on an obscene level in America and in Europe, and throwing it away before it even gets sold! Not that that is an environmental issue, but it is a problem.

These are things that we can and do need to change. The OP is right to be asking whether or not global warming is down to humans, and we have to ask whether the warming trend is reversing or not.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-01-2010 09:53PM

I haven't noticed any 7ft snow drifts, this isn't in the top 10 worst snows I've experienced around here.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-01-2010 10:02PM

Jakkass wrote: »

Humans are having a negative impact on the environment in numerous ways including:

Apart from African species that co-evolved with us, we've also managed to make extinct most terrestrial animals bigger than a moose.

We are pretty good at creating deserts too, much of the forrests of ancient Egypt went in to building the pyramids.

Blue fin tuna are close to the edge, as are Atlantic Cod and many other fish. but don't worry their plaice in the eco-system are being taken by unappetising jellyfish, squid and other invertebrates.

junkyard · 06-01-2010 10:05PM

Global warming is a natural progression for this planet, it's going to happen whether we're here or not, the idea of taxing us for the situation is a work of genius, the greatest scam in the history of mankind so far imho.

Turtwig · 06-01-2010 10:07PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Apart from African species that co-evolved with us, we've also managed to make extinct most terrestrial animals bigger than a moose.

We are pretty good at creating deserts too, much of the forrests of ancient Egypt went in to building the pyramids.

Blue fin tuna are close to the edge, as are Atlantic Cod and many other fish. but don't worry their plaice in the eco-system are being taken by unappetising jellyfish, squid and other invertebrates.

Supposedly before humans the background rate of extinction was 1 species every four years. With modern humans it's about 120,000 times that rate.:(

junkyard wrote: »

Global warming is a natural progression for this planet, it's going to happen whether we're here or not, the idea of taxing us for the situation is a work of genius, the greatest scam in the history of mankind so far imho.

I think, you should realise that taxing is the "easy" option.

junkyard · 06-01-2010 10:10PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Apart from African species that co-evolved with us, we've also managed to make extinct most terrestrial animals bigger than a moose.

We are pretty good at creating deserts too, much of the forrests of ancient Egypt went in to building the pyramids.

Blue fin tuna are close to the edge, as are Atlantic Cod and many other fish. but don't worry their plaice in the eco-system are being taken by unappetising jellyfish, squid and other invertebrates.

And are we to blame for dinosaurs becoming extinct too and all the other extinct species that lived on the planet? What about all the new species of animals and insect that are being discovered? This planet is evolving as are we as human beings, we'd be still in the sea or swinging off trees if it wasn't for evolution, it's time to adapt not pay taxes because the bottom line is money.

Mr. Presentable · 06-01-2010 10:11PM

It's typical Ireland. The globe is warming to record levels, even the Poles are warming, and here we are in the coldest winter for 50 years!

galwayrush · 06-01-2010 10:12PM

adrian280582 wrote: »

Global Warming :eek::eek::eek:

Apparently so, but my balls are freezing.

Capt'n Midnight · 06-01-2010 10:16PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Apparently so, but my balls are freezing.

If you are a brass monkey I would advise you to seek warmth as a matter of urgency

galwayrush · 06-01-2010 10:19PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If you are a brass monkey I would advise you to seek warmth as a matter of urgency

Bertie Ahern must be very worried about his neck atm:pac:

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 06-01-2010 10:36PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

I believe that the planet is overpopulated and close to a tipping point, there can be no question that we are having SOME tangible impact on the earth.... The human race really is just like a virus.

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Kill the poor to feed the hungry????

06-01-2010 10:44PM

I don't believe that the weather this year and last year is a result of global warming/climate change or whatever you want to call it. The sun is pretty much dead right now so that is most likely the cause. Expect more of the same (including dodgy summers) until solar activity picks up again.

I'm not saying that we aren't destroying the planet but I think it's exaggerated - groups are too quick to throw the climate change card when something unexpected happens. Mary Robinson tried to blame the November floods on it when, lets face it, lots of new properties were built in flood plains over the last decade.

Global Warming.

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