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The End of Time Part 2 - Spoilers

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  • #102
    K-9
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    Thought it was ok, great in parts and entertaining but stupid in others.

    I LOL'ed at the falling out of the sky, ridiculous and the CGI of the Chinese army was stupid. The Masters just seemed pointless and just seemed to be something to justify his return, or maybe the Time Lords? How long was Timothy Dalton in it? Way underused.

    The ending was far too long. No need for Rose at all, the ending was schmaltzy enough after Donna, though Bernard Crimmins did it perfectly. I can see why Jack was in it, a nod to the new Torchwood series as everybody is wondering how they can have another one!

    Sarah Jane totally unnecessary as that was wrapped up a few weeks in the SJA. Incidentally, Quiz Fact: the 10th Doctors last scene was in SJA, not the End of Time.

    Crimmins and Dalton were excellent and Simms with what he had to do.

    Tennant was superb and Yep, I'd a tear in my eye at the end. He really has come on as an actor in this role. The scene with the 4 knocks at the glass was brilliant, didn't see it coming and he captured the audiences reaction to a tee.

    Crimmins and Tennant with the Gun was brilliant, superb, captured the 10th Doctor in one scene and they went and ruined it with the cocked gun. Far, far too long and ruined any suspense.

    I think Smith will grown on us. Loved the jibe about being female and having ginger hair, a jab at the rumours at a new female doctor and the emo look?

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  • #103
    Sleepy
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    I think I'm going to have to catch up on Torchwood now... sounds like the last series of it was pretty epic. I'd wondered about the line 'When Torchwood fell' alright. Seems a shame that I've spoiled the end of the last series for myself now :(


  • #104
    GSPfan
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    I think I'm going to have to catch up on Torchwood now... sounds like the last series of it was pretty epic. I'd wondered about the line 'When Torchwood fell' alright. Seems a shame that I've spoiled the end of the last series for myself now :(

    Ha. I was thinking the same thing. I didnt see the last series of torchwood.


  • #105
    iguana
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    I think I'm going to have to catch up on Torchwood now... sounds like the last series of it was pretty epic. I'd wondered about the line 'When Torchwood fell' alright. Seems a shame that I've spoiled the end of the last series for myself now :(

    The last series of Torchwood was fantastic, but the first series was extremely poor and the second not much better. I don't think you've been massively spoiled if you only know what you've already mentioned. But do get Children of Earth and watch it before you get more spoiled.


  • #106
    anotherlostie
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    I thought it was a horrendous self indulgent mess, hopping from irrelevant storyline to irrelevant storyline. Bernard Cribbins was the only saving grace.

    I had to laugh at all the Tennant fanboys on other forums complaining about how Matt Smith acted OTT. They've obviously never seen a regeneration before.

    Sad to say, the only episode worse than this I remember was the Absorbaloff one. But the new trailer gives me hope, as long as we don't get vampires on a weekly basis to satisfy the Twilight generation.


  • #107
    Killer_banana
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    A few people have mentioned bad effects and I'd just like to say, the white point star, i have no idea if it's meant to be expensive or what but surely they could have made it look a bit better than something you could buy in a joke shop? Also if the Master was meant to instantly know it was from Gallifrey shouldn't it have had some sort of defining feature?

    Also everyone here is saying they had a tear in their eye for the last scene; I've always known I was overly-emotional but now I realise I'm worse than I thought. :P


  • #108
    Doctor DooM
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    Killer_banana wrote: »
    Also everyone here is saying they had a tear in their eye for the last scene; I've always known I was overly-emotional but now I realise I'm worse than I thought. :P

    Don't worry, as I have a goatee I must be an evil manly man like the Master so a tear in the eye is as much emotion as I am allowed to express.


  • #109
    K-9
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    I think I'm going to have to catch up on Torchwood now... sounds like the last series of it was pretty epic. I'd wondered about the line 'When Torchwood fell' alright. Seems a shame that I've spoiled the end of the last series for myself now :(

    Nota fan of the first or second, hit and miss, but the third was superb. Good balance between the sci fi and human inteaction. The Junior Minister, name escapes me, was superb, but he's an underrated actor anyway.
    GSPfan wrote: »
    Ha. I was thinking the same thing. I didnt see the last series of torchwood.

    You could watch the third series on its own, but it would be better to watch it from the start. Very adult in parts.
    iguana wrote: »
    The last series of Torchwood was fantastic, but the first series was extremely poor and the second not much better. I don't think you've been massively spoiled if you only know what you've already mentioned. But do get Children of Earth and watch it before you get more spoiled.

    True.
    anotherlostie wrote: »
    I thought it was a horrendous self indulgent mess, hopping from irrelevant storyline to irrelevant storyline. Bernard Cribbins was the only saving grace.

    I had to laugh at all the Tennant fanboys on other forums complaining about how Matt Smith acted OTT. They've obviously never seen a regeneration before.

    Sad to say, the only episode worse than this I remember was the Absorbaloff one. But the new trailer gives me hope, as long as we don't get vampires on a weekly basis to satisfy the Twilight generation.
    .

    LOL. Couple of nice personal touches in the trailers. Think he'll be darker and will bring him on further. Sure there'll be a few hit and misses but sure the same happened Tennant.

    If you watched DW Confidential, they did say it was tough for him to just come in like that. Don't think anybody could expect more from him. Still, loved the dig at the fanboys, "I'm a girl", "I'm not ginger" LOL

    PS. His assistant his haut! Shorts and the uniform!

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  • #110
    K-9
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    Killer_banana wrote: »

    Also everyone here is saying they had a tear in their eye for the last scene; I've always known I was overly-emotional but now I realise I'm worse than I thought. :P

    OK. A few tears in the eye. I'm not doing a group hug!

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  • #111
    GSPfan
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    I'm 27 (and a half) and I think I'm getting more emotional by the day when it comes to tv programmes. I'm the person who doesn't cry at funerals but stick on Finding Nemo and I have to pretend there's something in my eye.

    Wilf and The Doctor, and the Doctors final words were Fantastic. Had a Finding Nemo moment there.


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  • #112
    Killer_banana
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    I'm a seventeen year girl which I could use as an excuse except I even cried during Confidential! I can't even remember why but I did! I really am ashamed. :p


  • #113
    Doctor DooM
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    Killer_banana wrote: »
    I'm a seventeen year girl which I could use as an excuse except I even cried during Confidential! I can't even remember why but I did! I really am ashamed. :p

    Being a 17 year old girl means you can really get away with doing anything without logic. :)


  • #114
    K-9
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    Killer_banana wrote: »
    I'm a seventeen year girl which I could use as an excuse except I even cried during Confidential! I can't even remember why but I did! I really am ashamed. :p

    Actually, Confidential was far better than the actual show. At least you could see why they did what they did. Loved the bit at the end with Tennant choosing what scene to put in! They chose right!

    Better cancel the Group Hug!

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  • #115
    ixoy
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    Didn't shed a tear, but DT's final words were one of the few good things in this episode. Nicely put and the idea of the Doctor fearing death was well done (again proving RTD can be at his strongest when writing character moments and not plot).


  • #116
    Handsome Bob
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    I only watched Doctor Who for the first time the other day (Tennant's final episode). I'm a little bit confused, when Matt Smith regenerated as the Doctor why was he acting all strange? I mean why was he saying (paraphrase) "Still got hands, face, not a woman etc ect"? Does the Doctor keep the same mind regardless of rengeneration, kind of like Dax in Deep Space Nine? But if that's the case why was Tennant's Doctor saying he didn't want to go? Sorry for the stupid questions. tongue.gif


  • #117
    Doctor DooM
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    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I only watched Doctor Who for the first time the other day (Tennant's final episode). I'm a little bit confused, when Matt Smith regenerated as the Doctor why was he acting all strange? I mean why was he saying (paraphrase) "Still got hands, face, not a woman etc ect"? Does the Doctor keep the same mind regardless of rengeneration, kind of like Dax in Deep Space Nine? But if that's the case why was Tennant's Doctor saying he didn't want to go? Sorry for the stupid questions. tongue.gif

    Wow, bad episode to start with LZ. I prescribe a blink and two family of blood, come back to me in a week :)

    The Doctor usually acts insane for a bit after regenerating, as his brain is effectively just after exploding and reforming in a different configuration!

    The Doctor is, apparently, really bad at regenerating. It usually goes a bit wrong and he's completely unable to control what he looks like when he regenerates (other Time Lords seem to have some control over it). Also sometimes, according to some extended media, regenerations can go wrong and mutations happen. Thus the hands? feet? nose? checks.

    Here's a mini episode which explains regenerations quite well (and shows goods old 10 going mad at the end)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhuyip6bmjI


    The Doctor explains in End of time part 1 that, although he survives regenerating, he is still a new man, with a new personality, with the memories of all the old Doctors. Thus 10 feared regeneration as a kind of death.


  • #118
    Handsome Bob
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    Thanks Doom! Ah it didn't seem that bad, Tennant wasn't overacting for once. :D


  • #119
    Doctor DooM
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    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Thanks Doom! Ah it didn't seem that bad, Tennant wasn't overacting for once. :D

    I demand you go watch family of blood and still say this is good after that :D


  • #120
    pixelburp
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    ixoy wrote: »
    Didn't shed a tear, but DT's final words were one of the few good things in this episode. Nicely put and the idea of the Doctor fearing death was well done (again proving RTD can be at his strongest when writing character moments and not plot).
    His final words totally pased me by because at that stage I had just slumped into a bored shape in my sofa; I had pretty much given up when Rose appeared & thought we'd never get to see the regeneration and there'd be some RTD style copout

    Oh and I'm 29 & found series 2 a bit weepy allright, definitely not this though.


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  • #121
    ixoy
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Oh and I'm 29 & found series 2 a bit weepy allright, definitely not this though.
    I didn't because I never liked Rose and wanted the blonde bitch out of the show. I was definitely in a "get on with it" frame of mind for that.
    And it's Series 28 not 2 :p


  • #122
    Wibbs
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    Ahh I always liked Rose I have to admit. *ducks*:D

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  • #123
    spongeman
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    ixoy wrote: »
    I didn't because I never liked Rose and wanted the blonde bitch out of the show. I was definitely in a "get on with it" frame of mind for that.
    And it's Series 28 not 2 :p

    Listen mate Billy Piper was the best out of the new companions. Martha and Donna were brutal.

    You d'ont have to be an astronaut to work that out.


  • #124
    pixelburp
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    ixoy wrote: »
    I didn't because I never liked Rose and wanted the blonde bitch out of the show. I was definitely in a "get on with it" frame of mind for that.
    And it's Series 28 not 2 :p
    She redeemed herself somewhat for the finale & the goodbye scene was nicely handled. I hated Rose for most of series 2 ... 8, and she hit rock bottom with her behavior around Sarah Jane, but the end was neat (and at the time, terminal).

    I got used to calling the New Series by their relative names, series 28 feels a wee bit clunky.


  • #125
    Doctor DooM
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    spongeman wrote: »
    Listen mate Billy Piper was the best out of the new companions. Martha and Donna were brutal.

    You d'ont have to be an astronaut to work that out.

    Alot of people dislike Rose because she is a mary sue.

    Personally, I don't have a problem with her, prefer both Donna and Wilf but she didn't annoy me at all.

    Secondly, I demand it be referred to as series twoty eight.


  • #126
    Killer_banana
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    Personally I think Rose started out well. I think her character got lost somewhere in season 2(8) though. when she returned in Turn Left and Journey's End she seemed more believable. In my opinion the problem was that the writing was focused too much on her romance with the Doctor and not her as a character. That's just me personally though. I still think Rose was a very good companion.


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  • #127
    iguana
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    spongeman wrote: »
    Listen mate Billy Piper was the best out of the new companions. Martha and Donna were brutal.

    Imo the character of Donna was a better character than Rose but Catherine Tate didn't have the acting chops to do her justice.


  • #128
    ixoy
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    spongeman wrote: »
    Listen mate Billy Piper was the best out of the new companions. Martha and Donna were brutal.

    You d'ont have to be an astronaut to work that out.
    Disagree. Martha was a bit bland but her character didn't hog the show the way Rose and the romance did. I found her petulant often (such as her behaviour around Sarah Jane, as mentioned).
    Donna was a better companion and I believe Tate did have the ability - Donna mellowed as the season went on, which is very evident comparing her in the Season 30 finale with the brash loud Donna we saw again in "The End of Time".

    Wilfred p'owns them all though.


  • #129
    BlitzKrieg
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    Martha Jones was the companion I started with so I have a soft spot for her, I dislike Rose when something important is going on because she makes the end of the world look like a teenage girl sulking, but the one off episodes she works quite well. I liked Donna aswell because she can do both the one offs and the big ones. Martha Jones was less proliferant in her season as the others but I personnally liked her.


    an old thread about favourite series etc I summed up my opinion on Rose Tyler:
    Also series 1 and 2 have the misfortune of having Rose as the companion who for me is either a good companion or an unsufferable b*tch who I wish to strangle. Its made worse that its usually the bad episodes where she's ok, because its usually in those where her and the doctor have chemistry and she's lighthearted. When she gets serious I just want to strangle her, even more so when its serious about the doctor. Series 3 has Martha, who I actually like as a companion and while she also suffers from doctor envy, its never as bad as Rose's (mostly because the writer's write Martha's with the knowledge that her love will be unrequited, while they seem to have some hard on for Rose and believe her and the doctor are destined, which they actually do at the end of 4 which just pissed me off more) My only complaint about Martha is they brought her back in torchwood and series 4 to do nothing essentially which is a shame. Donna is a good companion but mostly because of Turn left which is her highlight of series 4


    Back on topic though...anyone else sad that we had very little continuity through the specials...like arc words or similar?


    Also is the confidential worth watching?


  • #130
    Doctor DooM
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    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Martha Jones was the companion I started with so I have a soft spot for her, I dislike Rose when something important is going on because she makes the end of the world look like a teenage girl sulking, but the one off episodes she works quite well. I liked Donna aswell because she can do both the one offs and the big ones. Martha Jones was less proliferant in her season as the others but I personnally liked her.


    an old thread about favourite series etc I summed up my opinion on Rose Tyler:




    Back on topic though...anyone else sad that we had very little continuity through the specials...like arc words or similar?


    Also is the confidential worth watching?

    The christmas and easter specials were really throw away. really, really.


  • #131
    yaines
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    Killer_banana wrote: »

    I loved it. I thought it was absolutey brilliant. I said RTD usually managed to redeem himself somehow (for me anyway) and boy did he.

    Sorry, I don't want to quote your entire post for space purposes but I just wanted to say I agree with every word of it. I'm very pleased to see that someone else enjoyed it as much as I did, especially after reading 3 pages of "meh's" from everyone else! Unbelieveably, I had the same theory about the mystery woman but, like you, don't know enough about Doctor folklore to back it up with anything.

    The only thing that annoyed me (which I don't think you mentioned but others have) is the falling from the spaceship scene. Somewhere out there, Tom Baker is well pissed off. Wasn't his regeneration caused by the same thing? Only from a shorter height and onto a grassy surface? When it was happening, I thought it was going to be a nod to the old Who but then when he got back up, I couldn't help but think "WTF?!"

    Very sad when 11 thought he'd survived (and, for a split second, even had fantasies that Tennant was actually going to stay on and the whole Matt Smith thing had been a massive decoy set up by RTD to fool us all) but then heard Wilf knocking. Very well done though.

    All in all, relatively happy with Tennant's & RTD's send off and am more than looking forward to seeing what Smith & Moffatt have in store for us in the Spring!


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  • #132
    iguana
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    ixoy wrote: »
    I found her petulant often (such as her behaviour around Sarah Jane, as mentioned).

    The thing about Rose that really grated for me was how much everyone loved her. The bit in TPTW when Jack is going to his near certain death and saying goodbye and he says 'you are worth dying for' or something like that, all I could think was 'why?'


  • #133
    Ginny
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    The thing that annoyed me most about Rose was the god awful dentistry job she reappeared with.


  • #134
    Doctor DooM
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    yaines wrote: »
    ...

    You know it's ok for you to love it and others to hate it. It's all just opinion :)


  • #135
    spongeman
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    yaines wrote: »
    Sorry, I don't want to quote your entire post for space purposes but I just wanted to say I agree with every word of it. I'm very pleased to see that someone else enjoyed it as much as I did, especially after reading 3 pages of "meh's" from everyone else! Unbelieveably, I had the same theory about the mystery woman but, like you, don't know enough about Doctor folklore to back it up with anything.

    All in all, relatively happy with Tennant's & RTD's send off and am more than looking forward to seeing what Smith & Moffatt have in store for us in the Spring!

    Hurray another who has seen the light !

    Now there are 3 of us fighting the forces of darkness...........


  • #136
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    So in terms of Rose's story line where did we finish up. When he last saw her she was in Norway with Doctor Who's body double?


  • #137
    ixoy
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    iguana wrote: »
    The thing about Rose that really grated for me was how much everyone loved her. The bit in TPTW when Jack is going to his near certain death and saying goodbye and he says 'you are worth dying for' or something like that, all I could think was 'why?'
    Exactly - what did she do that was so special? Why go to all these lengths for her, put her on such a pedestal and yet dump Sarah Jane (yeah alright, she did get her own show). Yes she's preferable to some of the early screamers but why not say hold Jamie up in the same regard? After all Jamie McCrimmon appeared in more episodes of the show than most of the Doctors.


  • #138
    Doctor DooM
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    ixoy wrote: »
    Exactly - what did she do that was so special? Why go to all these lengths for her, put her on such a pedestal and yet dump Sarah Jane (yeah alright, she did get her own show). Yes she's preferable to some of the early screamers but why not say hold Jamie up in the same regard? After all Jamie McCrimmon appeared in more episodes of the show than most of the Doctors.

    She opened the eye of harmony and destroyed virtually every dalek in existence?


    (That's actually only adding to the mary- sue- ness, I know.)


  • #139
    pixelburp
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    bayviewclose wrote: »
    So in terms of Rose's story line where did we finish up. When he last saw her she was in Norway with Doctor Who's body double?
    Yup, so presumably that'll (finally) be the last we see of her. Of course this is sci-fi at it's least "sci" so there's always a chance that oops, the barrier between universes has fallen again and guess who's back?


  • #140
    Doctor DooM
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    bayviewclose wrote: »
    So in terms of Rose's story line where did we finish up. When he last saw her she was in Norway with Doctor Who's body double?

    Yup. I assume thats happily ever after as now her love is requited.

    Being pedantic but it's the Doctor, the name of the Programme is Doctor Who. :)


  • #141
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Yup. I assume thats happily ever after as now her love is requited.

    Being pedantic but it's the Doctor, the name of the Programme is Doctor Who. :)
    I think when they met in the street near the end it was 2005. So what year was it when she was in Norway


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  • #142
    Doctor DooM
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    bayviewclose wrote: »
    I think when they met in the street near the end it was 2005. So what year was it when she was in Norway

    2008 if I recall.


  • #143
    iguana
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    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    She opened the eye of harmony and destroyed virtually every dalek in existence?

    She hadn't done that yet at the point Jack was so happy to die for her.


  • #144
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    2008 if I recall.
    Dont know why they have to keep bringing her back. The farewell scene in Doomsday was perfect and then they had to spoil it all by re uniting them again.


  • #145
    Doctor DooM
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    iguana wrote: »
    She hadn't done that yet at the point Jack was so happy to die for her.

    Oops. Brainectomy :)


  • #146
    ixoy
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    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Being pedantic but it's the Doctor, the name of the Programme is Doctor Who. :)
    I always hated that "knock knock" joke that ended with "Doctor Who?" "How did you know my name!" and I was there saying "It's not his name! It's the Doctor!" I don't care what the credits said in the first few seasons (or in some of the Target novelizations), nobody on screen called him "Doctor Who" because that's not who he is. Except for WOTAN but WOTAN is stupid.


  • #147
    pixelburp
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    ixoy wrote: »
    I always hated that "knock knock" joke that ended with "Doctor Who?" "How did you know my name!" and I was there saying "It's not his name! It's the Doctor!" I don't care what the credits said in the first few seasons (or in some of the Target novelizations), nobody on screen called him "Doctor Who" because that's not who he is. Except for WOTAN but WOTAN is stupid.
    I'm going to pretend I don't know who WOTAN was ;)


  • #148
    BuffyBot
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    Ginny wrote: »
    The thing that annoyed me most about Rose was the god awful dentistry job she reappeared with.

    At first I thought someone had parked a white 40ft trailer in her mouth.


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    Daemos
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    Oh, I just thought of something that I'm only posting for my own self-indulgence

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055549659

    :D


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    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    DaPoolRulz wrote: »
    Oh, I just thought of something that I'm only posting for my own self-indulgence

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055549659

    :D

    lol @ my redtop related cynicism.


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  • #151
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    A big meh for me. Some good some bad. The ending was like Return of the King and I was muttering "At least Tom Baker went quietly" at the end. Must be something wrong with me as I didn't find the green spiky aliens bothersome at all. I know why they were there and it didn't annoy me.

    One question I kept asking was what kind of copies of the Master were they. If they were exact copies how likely is it that any of them would willingly take on a role as an ordinary soldier etc.? Surely they would all be looking to take over the world.

    Co-incidentally I was watching The Keeper of Traken the other night which features Anthony Ainley as The Master (my earliest memory of The Master) and at the end of the DVD there is a brief but touching piece with Ainley smiling at the camera and saying "Thanks Gov" before walking off screen. He sadly passed away in 2004.


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