Drug smuggler Akmal Shaikh executed

poisonated · 30-12-2009 1:41am #1

Well first of all I would like to appolagize if this is already a topic.What is your opinion of the guy who was executed in China yesterday?To be honest,I did feel very sorry for the guy at first but then I learned about his history,the guy has being breaking the law for years.Am I the only one who feels that this guy may have gotten what he deserved.Before anyone starts,I am very sympatethic to people with mental illnesses but that has to end at a certain level.

EDIT: here is a link btw:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akmal_Shaikh

mink_man · 30-12-2009 1:43am

osama bin laden?

laugh · 30-12-2009 1:44am

poisonated wrote: »

Well first of all I would like to appolagize if this is already a topic.What is your opinion of the guy who was assasinated in China yesterday?To be honest,I did feel very sorry for the guy at first but then I learned about his history,the guy has being breaking the law for years.Am I the only one who feels that this guy may have gotten what he deserved.Before anyone starts,I am very sympatethic to people with mental illnesses but that has to end at a certain level.

Sounds like the Chinese could murder you for picking up the wrong suitcase.

bluto63 · 30-12-2009 1:44am

Wikipedia wrote:

The neutrality of this article is disputed

Maybe find a news article to link to rather than a site anyone can change

mink_man · 30-12-2009 1:45am

oh rite...china is a communist country....

laugh · 30-12-2009 1:46am

poisonated wrote: »

assasinated

He was executed.

partyatmygaff · 30-12-2009 1:47am

poisonated wrote: »

Well first of all I would like to appolagize if this is already a topic.What is your opinion of the guy who was assasinated in China yesterday?To be honest,I did feel very sorry for the guy at first but then I learned about his history,the guy has being breaking the law for years.Am I the only one who feels that this guy may have gotten what he deserved.Before anyone starts,I am very sympatethic to people with mental illnesses but that has to end at a certain level.

EDIT: here is a link btw:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akmal_Shaikh

Assasinated?

He was executed by lethal injection for dealing heroin in an area with a big heroin problem. It would have been better if he was deported to the UK to hold trial there though.
You make it sound as if he's an innocent man the chinese government decided to kill for no reason whatsoever.

poisonated · 30-12-2009 1:48am

haha should have expected this,it is after hours.OK he was executed.What is your opinion of this situation?

tooler08 · 30-12-2009 1:49am

I think that if he was so badly mentaly ill he should have not been alowed to be on his own in China

laugh · 30-12-2009 1:52am

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Assasinated?

He was executed by lethal injection for dealing heroin in an area with a big heroin problem.

He was detained at entry?

moretothegirl · 30-12-2009 1:52am

I think its a scary world we live in... id say he was smuggling drugs all rite and new exactly what he was at.... but execution.... harsh...

mikom · 30-12-2009 1:55am

poisonated wrote: »

Am I the only one who feels that this guy may have gotten what he deserved.

Probably.
From what I could see of the court case there were loads of chinks in his defence.

My name is URL · 30-12-2009 1:56am

I don't agree with the death penalty whatsoever.. but I do think they were right not to undermine their own laws just because of outside pressure

jd007 · 30-12-2009 1:57am

Sure them chinese are mad!

TheZohanS · 30-12-2009 2:07am

mikom wrote: »

From what I could see of the court case there were loads of chinks in his defence.

Don't.

That_Guy · 30-12-2009 2:10am

poisonated wrote: »

Well first of all I would like to appolagize if this is already a topic.What is your opinion of the guy who was executed in China yesterday?To be honest,I did feel very sorry for the guy at first but then I learned about his history,the guy has being breaking the law for years.Am I the only one who feels that this guy may have gotten what he deserved.Before anyone starts,I am very sympatethic to people with mental illnesses but that has to end at a certain level.

EDIT: here is a link btw:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akmal_Shaikh

Meh..... could've been worse.

Bloody Nipples · 30-12-2009 2:11am

If the info in the background section is true then it sounds like someone with deeper issues. Guess we'll never know though.

TheZohanS · 30-12-2009 2:12am

jd007 wrote: »

Sure them chinese are mad!

The guy was caught with over 4kg of heroin.

Dennis the Stone · 30-12-2009 2:12am

Here's his song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFv0eS5p9hs

Mike 1972 · 30-12-2009 2:16am

partyatmygaff wrote: »

He was executed by lethal injection for dealing heroin in an area with a big heroin problem.

Even more evidence that prohibition doesnt work.

jd007 · 30-12-2009 2:20am

TheZohan wrote: »

The guy was caught with over 4kg of heroin.

So is death a suitable punishment for possession of heroin?

poisonated · 30-12-2009 2:24am

I just feel that:
1)it appears that he treated his children very badly
2)he drank drove
3)he abused everyone
and then he smuggled heroin into somewhere where heroin is already a big problem.If you add up all of these factors,I think that he didn't seem to be a very nice guy.

ciano1 · 30-12-2009 2:26am

Ageispolis wrote: »

Here's his song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFv0eS5p9hs

CHOOOON

Xmas No.1 2010

laugh · 30-12-2009 2:27am

My name is URL wrote: »

but I do think they were right not to undermine their own laws just because of outside pressure

Have international human rights not improved for this very reason?

digme · 30-12-2009 2:33am

jd007 wrote: »

So is death a suitable punishment for possession of heroin?

YES. if yuou knew the history of china and the uk you wouldn't of asked that question...
go google it.
tough **** is what i say.,
the uk and a jewish family flooded china with the stuff

partyatmygaff · 30-12-2009 2:37am

jd007 wrote: »

So is death a suitable punishment for possession of heroin?

Heroin is a pretty destructive drug, I'd say its the most destructive even. The death penalty is far too harsh though, he should have either gotten a long prison sentence or he should have been deported to the UK for a trial there. In any case from what we know, he didn't have any interpreter at his trial or any type of idea about what was going on in his case. That alone is pretty unjust.

bnt · 30-12-2009 2:42am

One sign that the guy was "not all there": smuggling 4kg of pure Heroin in to a country that executes drug smugglers.

We can argue about what is "appropriate", but it's not as if China (Singapore, Thailand etc.) care. What is one apparent criminal's life to a country of over a billion? It's over, now: the firing squad has closed his file permanently.

Heckler · 30-12-2009 2:52am

Smuggle heroin into a country notorious for harsh dealings with such crimes. Get caught. Executed. Tough ****. No sympathy. Harsh but true. Maybe if our pansy assed judical system had a similar approach so many innocent people wouldn't get shafted everyday of the year. (By which i mean families of murder victims seeing the accused get a suspended sentence despite 50 previous convictions for example) **** him i say. Maybe he had mental problems, maybe he didn't. I don't care. i'm sick to **** of people getting lenient sentences because of bull**** mitigating circumstances. "oh I'm a reformed drug user from a broken home" **** right off.

Black Magic · 30-12-2009 3:55am

Nobody should be killed with a death penalty. Shove him in a jail instead but don't kill him.

indough · 30-12-2009 4:14am

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Even more evidence that prohibition doesnt work.

yeah lets legalise heroin that will really improve matters

markok84 · 30-12-2009 4:31am

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Heroin is a pretty destructive drug, I'd say its the most destructive even. The death penalty is far too harsh though, he should have either gotten a long prison sentence or he should have been deported to the UK for a trial there. In any case from what we know, he didn't have any interpreter at his trial or any type of idea about what was going on in his case. That alone is pretty unjust.

They also didn't tell him he was getting executed until moments before the execution.

wild_cat · 30-12-2009 4:35am

indough wrote: »

yeah lets legalise heroin that will really improve matters

You'd be suprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/30/heroin-legalization-progr_n_147245.html

Seaneh · 30-12-2009 4:44am

poisonated wrote: »

Drug smuggler executed[/url]

Where's the problem in that? Kill all the fúcking scumbag cúnts.

truecrippler · 30-12-2009 4:48am

Ageispolis wrote: »

Here's his song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFv0eS5p9hs

That's my new party piece, cheers.

truecrippler · 30-12-2009 4:49am

Heckler wrote: »

Smuggle heroin into a country notorious for harsh dealings with such crimes. Get caught. Executed. Tough ****. No sympathy. Harsh but true. Maybe if our pansy assed judical system had a similar approach so many innocent people wouldn't get shafted everyday of the year. (By which i mean families of murder victims seeing the accused get a suspended sentence despite 50 previous convictions for example) **** him i say. Maybe he had mental problems, maybe he didn't. I don't care. i'm sick to **** of people getting lenient sentences because of bull**** mitigating circumstances. "oh I'm a reformed drug user from a broken home" **** right off.

Jahsus, you really do live up to your name.

slipss · 30-12-2009 4:51am

digme wrote: »

YES. if yuou knew the history of china and the uk you wouldn't of asked that question...
go google it.
tough **** is what i say.,
the uk and a jewish family flooded china with the stuff

Perfectly undertsandable at the time proceding of the Opium wars, the same situation doesn't exist anymore.

Seaneh · 30-12-2009 4:52am

Black Magic wrote: »

Nobody should be killed with a death penalty.

Not much of a death penalty if nobody dies Ted...

indough · 30-12-2009 4:54am

wild_cat wrote: »

You'd be suprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/30/heroin-legalization-progr_n_147245.html

nope, not surprised

ziggy · 30-12-2009 4:58am

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indough · 30-12-2009 5:20am

Seaneh wrote: »

Sometimes people just deserve to die.

word

me_right_one · 30-12-2009 5:20am

slipss wrote: »

Kill all drug smugglers? So presumably kill all murderers aswell? Rapists? Burglers? Where would you draw the line out of interest?

The line should be drawn thus: If you deal in drugs, you DO deserve to die. If you smuggle drugs, you DO deserve to die. If you are a peadofile, you DO deserve to die. If you use drugs, you deserve LIFE in prison. If you are a sex offender of adults, you deserve LIFE in prison. If you are a murderer, you deserve LIFE in prison. If you have three convictions, you deserve LIFE in prison.

For anything else, it would depend. Stealing, drink-driving, fighting, fraud etc. all deserve a conviction. First one, 1 year in prison. Second, 3 years. Third, 5 years. Fourth, the rest of your natural life. Saying that, you could do something that would warrant a 20 year spell behind bars on your first conviction. I would add a few new crimes too, such as ripping off a country. Mental assesments AND IQ tests would be mandatory for everybody every year, just like an NCT. That would sort that arguement out.

I do feel sorry for the fella though. The chinese are not known for their fairness. I believe he was away with the fairies.

indough · 30-12-2009 5:24am

me_right_one wrote: »

If you use drugs, you deserve LIFE in prison.

sorry but thats just ever so slightly stupid

me_right_one · 30-12-2009 5:26am

indough wrote: »

sorry but thats just ever so slightly stupid

Why? You're not advocating the use of drugs, or the promotion of a drug culture now are you?

OutlawPete · 30-12-2009 5:36am

indough wrote: »

word

Have you got YouTube open in another window with Vanilla Ice playing?

slipss · 30-12-2009 5:36am

me_right_one wrote: »

The line should be drawn thus:(1) If you deal in drugs, you DO deserve to die. If you smuggle drugs, you DO deserve to die. If you are a peadofile, you DO deserve to die. (2)If you use drugs, you deserve LIFE in prison. If you are a sex offender of adults, you deserve LIFE in prison. If you are a murderer, you deserve LIFE in prison. (3)If you have three convictions, you deserve LIFE in prison.

For anything else, it would depend. Stealing, drink-driving, fighting, fraud etc. all deserve a conviction. First one, 1 year in prison. Second, 3 years.(4) Third, 5 years. Fourth, the rest of your natural life. Saying that, you could do something that would warrant a 20 year spell behind bars on your first conviction. I would add a few new crimes too, such as ripping off a country. (5)Mental assesments AND IQ tests would be mandatory for everybody every year, just like an NCT. That would sort that arguement out.

I do feel sorry for the fella though. The chinese are not known for their fairness. I believe he was away with the fairies.

I wish I could work the multi quote thing but I haven't figured it out yet, alas:

1. So someone selling a gram of cannabis to a friend deserves the death penalty?
2. Someone taking a drag off a joint at the age of 18 should rot in jail till they die?
3. Someone punches someone on thier 18th birthday. Then gets angry and throws a stone at a car that nearly ran them over when they are 21. Then steals a bottle of water from a shop on a dare when they are drunk one night when they are 23. So that's it, their life is over, bang them up, throw away the key?
4. Thought it was 3 and then life? Or was your high horse of righteuos indignation going so fast that you forgot what you typed a moment before?
5.Ehhhh........wait, so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up!????!

mrsdewinter · 30-12-2009 5:38am

It seems clear that this man was mentally ill, and was not in a position to defend himself at trial (I'm assuming here that he had a fair trial). Even lowlife fantasists deserve protection.

slipss · 30-12-2009 5:42am

mrsdewinter wrote: »

It seems clear that this man was mentally ill, Even lowlife fantasists deserve protection.

Hey easy man, I disagree with me_right_one aswell but there's no need to be so harsh about him.

me_right_one · 30-12-2009 6:12am

slipss wrote: »

I wish I could work the multi quote thing but I haven't figured it out yet, alas:

1. So someone selling a gram of cannabis to a friend deserves the death penalty?
2. Someone taking a drag off a joint at the age of 18 should rot in jail till they die?
3. Someone punches someone on thier 18th birthday. Then gets angry and throws a stone at a car that nearly ran them over when they are 21. Then steals a bottle of water from a shop on a dare when they are drunk one night when they are 23. So that's it, their life is over, bang them up, throw away the key?

Yep.

slipss wrote: »

4. Thought it was 3 and then life? Or was your high horse of righteuos indignation going so fast that you forgot what you typed a moment before?
5.Ehhhh........wait, so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up!????!

You're not making sense there at all.

slipss · 30-12-2009 6:18am

me_right_one wrote: »

You're not making sense there at all.

It's pretty straight forward, maybe you need to hit the leaba.

Seaneh · 30-12-2009 6:18am

slipss wrote: »

You know, the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Drug sumgglers adversly affect the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people directly and inderictly.

by sumggling the 4kg of smack he was helping to fund human trafficing, child prostution, murder, ileagle firearms dealing, money laundering and countless other crimes you personally would consider detestful.

So sit there with your head in the sand and say he doesnt deserve to die, I'll look at the reality of it.

slipss · 30-12-2009 6:20am

me_right_one wrote: »

Yep.

Well you're entitled to your opinion. It's incredibly stupid, which seems to be a theme with all your posts tonight. But I suspect there is a very obvious explanation for that.

Drug smuggler Akmal Shaikh executed

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