24 Hour Study Space

charmer · 30-11-2009 10:07pm #1

I'm in! :cool:

Some people don't seem to understand the rule of silence still stands after 10pm :mad:

Muffin top · 30-11-2009 11:27pm

Tried it out myself, it actually isn't 24 hour. They close it round 7am or at least they did when I was in. It's still a welcome improvement though.

electrogrimey · 01-12-2009 2:25pm

I suppose it's different for me since I'm living at home, but I don't really see the point of a study space that has no access to books. Do most people not have a decent study area wherever they're living?

convert · 01-12-2009 2:49pm

It varies from place to place. Sometimes the rooms are too small to have a desk in them, and it doesn't work well trying to study/work in a common area. Other times, there is a space to work, but the house is to noisy to study in.
And then there are some people who find it hard to study at home and therefore prefer to work in the library.

Mark200 · 01-12-2009 2:53pm

electrogrimey wrote: »

I suppose it's different for me since I'm living at home, but I don't really see the point of a study space that has no access to books. Do most people not have a decent study area wherever they're living?

It's far easier to study in a library when there's very few distractions

devinejay · 01-12-2009 2:53pm

convert wrote: »

And then there are some people who find it hard to study at home and therefore prefer to work in the library.

I'd venture to say I find it impossible to study at home, just can't muster it.

electrogrimey · 01-12-2009 3:10pm

devinejay wrote: »

I'd venture to say I find it impossible to study at home, just can't muster it.

I'm more or less the same, but unless I can gets books on LEN, which I rarely can, I can pretty much only study in the library. So for me anyway, the study space isn't much use. I'd prefer longer hours in the library TBH.

j1smithy · 01-12-2009 6:10pm

Although I'm no longer a member of college, I'm glad to hear this has finally been opened. A world class uni should have 24hr study spaces.

Degsy · 02-12-2009 10:02am

charmer wrote: »

I'm in! :cool:

Some people don't seem to understand the rule of silence still stands after 10pm :mad:

Soem people dont understand the rule of silence at all.
Take the orientation space for example..we often get several groups of people hanging around chatting,laughing and talking on thier phones..its a bad bit of design which means sound travels very well from the area to the lecky and up the stairs into the berkeley..have some consideration or at least read the signs!!

charmer · 02-12-2009 3:31pm

Degsy wrote: »

Soem people dont understand the rule of silence at all.
Take the orientation space for example..we often get several groups of people hanging around chatting,laughing and talking on thier phones..its a bad bit of design which means sound travels very well from the area to the lecky and up the stairs into the berkeley..have some consideration or at least read the signs!!

Another thing that really grinds my gears... why can't people KEEP RIGHT on the stairs?! or at least not stop halfway up to exchange gossip about being "soooo drunk last noight".. yeah take yer time it's not like we have lectures to get to :mad:

banshee_bones · 06-12-2009 10:15am

electrogrimey wrote: »

I suppose it's different for me since I'm living at home, but I don't really see the point of a study space that has no access to books. Do most people not have a decent study area wherever they're living?

Nope. I prefer to keep the two apart, my room is a place for me to relax sleep and not associate it with college. No desk or space for one in my room anyway. And the sitting room is mostly taken up by my housemates.

If you find noise levels in the library difficult I would strongly recommend earplugs. Seriously, can't hear a thing! My only problem with the 24 hour space is I find the printer in there works most of the time but its hard to get a computer with people using them for facebook etc. . .

A Neurotic · 12-12-2009 2:00pm

Anybody know if this is open on a Saturday, past the 4 o clock closing time?

dan719 · 12-12-2009 4:24pm

It is, but it is packed now.

steveone · 12-12-2009 11:36pm

saw a big guy with a beard nearly throwing his toys out of his cot because someone was using his desk on the ussher ground floor. It was like watching kevin the teenager (harry enfield) he was all huffy and had to sit in the next desk... man everything he had was fastened with the worllds longest zips.. arrgh. and on wednesday I was treated to 3 non blondes talking about like...shoes OMG.. on the 4th floor ussher. I can't study in that place-it'd be easier in a pub

banshee_bones · 12-12-2009 11:45pm

steveone wrote: »

saw a big guy with a beard nearly throwing his toys out of his cot because someone was using his desk on the ussher ground floor. It was like watching kevin the teenager (harry enfield) he was all huffy and had to sit in the next desk... man everything he had was fastened with the worllds longest zips.. arrgh. and on wednesday I was treated to 3 non blondes talking about like...shoes OMG.. on the 4th floor ussher. I can't study in that place-it'd be easier in a pub

AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously.

lou91 · 13-12-2009 3:09pm

Went in one evening around 11 to check my email and the place was completely full.

The motivation of others depresses me.

PurpleFistMixer · 13-12-2009 5:21pm

Just went over after the libraries closed at 5pm, totally packed... People were even sitting on the floor.

Now I am attempting to study in a society room, but I know it's not going to end well.

A Neurotic · 13-12-2009 6:31pm

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Just went over after the libraries closed at 5pm, totally packed... People were even sitting on the floor.

Now I am attempting to study in a society room, but I know it's not going to end well.

I arrived about half an hour ago, got a place straight away. Seem to be a few empty spaces dotted around the place now...

Groinshot · 13-12-2009 6:48pm

I think its a stupid idea, its encouraging all night studying almost. Better off getting a decent nights sleep and working during the day.

PurpleFistMixer · 13-12-2009 9:50pm

A Neurotic wrote: »

I arrived about half an hour ago, got a place straight away. Seem to be a few empty spaces dotted around the place now...

I probably just got unlucky because all the libraries had just closed, and peope probably, (as I inteded to do) moved there.

And Groinshot, at least it provides somwhere TO study during the day.

Mark200 · 13-12-2009 11:53pm

banshee_bones wrote: »

AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously.

I'm sure most people don't like putting things in their ears.

And I don't see why anyone should have to either.

phlegms · 14-12-2009 12:12am

Mark200 wrote: »

I'm sure most people don't like putting things in their ears.

And I don't see why anyone should have to either.

In fairness, even if everyone in the library was completely silent there would still be a fair amount of ambient noise. I usually just wear my noise canceling headphones and I'm grand.

lucernarian · 14-12-2009 11:07am

banshee_bones wrote: »

AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously.

I have to agree with Mark200 on this. Dealing with shuffling papers, creaky chairs, the odd text or two is one thing. Moronic dopes acting like they were in primary school are another.

I'll sooner go to hell than wear earplugs for a prat like that in a study area. And tbh I don't think I'd have much problem telling him/her where to go either.

banshee_bones · 14-12-2009 11:31am

Mark200 wrote: »

I'm sure most people don't like putting things in their ears.

And I don't see why anyone should have to either.

phlegms wrote: »

In fairness, even if everyone in the library was completely silent there would still be a fair amount of ambient noise. I usually just wear my noise canceling headphones and I'm grand.

this was my point

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

I have to agree with Mark200 on this. Dealing with shuffling papers, creaky chairs, the odd text or two is one thing. Moronic dopes acting like they were in primary school are another.

I'll sooner go to hell than wear earplugs for a prat like that in a study area. And tbh I don't think I'd have much problem telling him/her where to go either.

Good for you, need more people like that telling idiots when to STFU in a study space.

Brian · 14-12-2009 11:45am

Mark200 wrote: »

I'm sure most people don't like putting things in their ears.

No.

phlegms wrote: »

I usually just wear my noise canceling headphones and I'm grand.

lol bose

devinejay · 14-12-2009 11:59am

I was waiting for Baza to say something!:pac:

Brian · 14-12-2009 12:06pm

42 dB isolation ftw

phlegms · 14-12-2009 5:16pm

Baza210 wrote: »

lol bose

Shure :cool:

evercloserunion · 14-12-2009 5:47pm

They could be a bit more clear about exactly when the room opens as a 24hr study space (is, not during the day). I'm sitting at a PC right beside the dopor from the comp room to the 24hr space and a lot of students come in trying to access the room from here.

A Neurotic · 14-12-2009 6:14pm

I don't know why they even lock that door during the day, seems like it would make things a bit easier for everyone...?

evercloserunion · 14-12-2009 6:29pm

Because it's part of the library during the day, so to stop people nicking books or sneaking in I guess.

A Neurotic · 14-12-2009 6:32pm

evercloserunion wrote: »

Because it's part of the library during the day, so to stop people nicking books or sneaking in I guess.

Knew there was a stupidly obvious reason.

steveone · 14-12-2009 10:08pm

banshee_bones wrote: »

AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously.

Earplugs? My understanding was that it was a library and users were required to be silent. the onus is not on me to wear earplugs. I wear them on a motorbike- I have no intention of listening to myself swallowing for the extent of time I am in there.

That is a typically Irish example of capitulating to those who are in the wrong.

zips n' clips n things are not an issue.tantrums etc are.
today for example there were a group of students on the ground floor (basement ussher)- all giddy girls... this time they were having a meeting no less. "do it this way"- "do it that way" while one of them was making christmas cards with a scissors and coloring crayons. Jesus It was like being in a creche.

Earplugs?

ha
supply them free

phlegms · 14-12-2009 10:38pm

steveone wrote: »

Earplugs? My understanding was that it was a library and users were required to be silent. the onus is not on me to wear earplugs. I wear them on a motorbike- I have no intention of listening to myself swallowing for the extent of time I am in there.

That is a typically Irish example of capitulating to those who are in the wrong.

zips n' clips n things are not an issue.tantrums etc are.
today for example there were a group of students on the ground floor (basement ussher)- all giddy girls... this time they were having a meeting no less. "do it this way"- "do it that way" while one of them was making christmas cards with a scissors and coloring crayons. Jesus It was like being in a creche.

Earplugs?

ha
supply them free

Once again: Ambient Noise.
Libraries have a lot of it.

Brian · 15-12-2009 2:38am

phlegms wrote: »

Shure :cool:

Shure do ANC? Also, Etymotic till I die.

Mark200 · 15-12-2009 7:39am

phlegms wrote: »

Once again: Ambient Noise.
Libraries have a lot of it.

The "AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously." comment came in reply to someone complaining about people talking....

And you get used to ambient noise. Just like you don't realise how noisy your house actually is until the electricity goes for a short while and then comes back.

banshee_bones · 15-12-2009 10:32am

steveone wrote: »

Earplugs? My understanding was that it was a library and users were required to be silent. the onus is not on me to wear earplugs. I wear them on a motorbike- I have no intention of listening to myself swallowing for the extent of time I am in there.

That is a typically Irish example of capitulating to those who are in the wrong.

zips n' clips n things are not an issue.tantrums etc are.
today for example there were a group of students on the ground floor (basement ussher)- all giddy girls... this time they were having a meeting no less. "do it this way"- "do it that way" while one of them was making christmas cards with a scissors and coloring crayons. Jesus It was like being in a creche.

Earplugs?

ha
supply them free

Mark200 wrote: »

The "AGAIN. Earplugs people. Seriously." comment came in reply to someone complaining about people talking....

And you get used to ambient noise. Just like you don't realise how noisy your house actually is until the electricity goes for a short while and then comes back.

WTF I made a simple suggestion to wear earplugs and im getting torn apart! Youd swear i suggested you to stick hot needles in to your eyes. :rolleyes:

shay_562 · 15-12-2009 10:58am

banshee_bones wrote: »

WTF I made a simple suggestion to wear earplugs and im getting torn apart!

And I hope you've learned your lesson about trying to help others! Shame on you...

devinejay · 15-12-2009 12:10pm

I'm in the Ussher now, don't really know where cause I just sorta wandered in, and it's ten times quieter than the Ham! Is moaning about the noise in the 24hr job by Ham standards or by Ussher standards?

phlegms · 15-12-2009 1:04pm

Baza210 wrote: »

Shure do ANC? Also, Etymotic till I die.

I dont know if it is specifically ANC, but when ever I have them in I cant hear nada.

banshee_bones · 15-12-2009 2:02pm

shay_562 wrote: »

And I hope you've learned your lesson about trying to help others! Shame on you...

Oh lesson learned!

evercloserunion · 15-12-2009 3:59pm

phlegms wrote: »

Once again: Ambient Noise.
Libraries have a lot of it.

Ambient noise is not the problem, the problem is people talking, shouting, just generally being inconsiderate pricks. Earplugs are not an appropriate answer to this because these people need to learn how to behave in a library, and it's also a fair bit cheaper to tell the few that are causing problems to STFU (or just hit them over the head with a big heavy book) than for everyone who actually wants to study to go out and buy earplugs.

Pet · 15-12-2009 7:59pm

People, people, really...whatever happened to a bit of well-placed righteous indignation? It's like the Facebook/Bebo on college computers all over again.

If some idiot BESS girls or whatever are talking inappropriately, and it's bothering you, walk over to them, fix them with your iciest glare and tell them, in the bitchiest tones you can muster [if you're the non-confrontational or retiring type, it helps if you channel all your study-related frustration and stress], that people are trying to study, and do not wish to listen to the inane prattlings of halfwits.

Then raise an eyebrow, turn around and walk back to where you were sitting.

It really is that easy.

Jammyc · 15-12-2009 8:42pm

Pet wrote: »

It's like the Facebook/Bebo on college computers all over again.

This annoys the ****e outa me. Like needing to do some work on a computer but not being able to because someone is "movin on up in farmville!"

Or lecturers who only give powerpoint files to students. Takes like 4 times as long to print in my experience of waiting to print one page.

lowetom · 15-12-2009 11:19pm

I don't understand why people are arguing here. If you can't muster the courage to tell your peers to STFU (and it's not your responsibility to, so you shouldn't necessarily feel bad about it) then get the earplugs in. Those who do speak up are well within their rights to do so, but they'll definitely look like a bit of a prick in some people's eyes.

Nobody has to wear earplugs, and nobody has to tell their peers to keep it down. It's unfortunate that the space is noisy, but it's better than the previous situation if college can't afford library staff at night.

for-why? · 16-12-2009 4:11pm

I was in the ussher basement at 9am this morning, with all the intentions of being highly productive, but had moved to the 4th floor by 9.30 due to the loud voices of the library staff on the bookstacks floor just above. They were being ridiculously loud. I know they're staff etc and were in a staff area, but the sound travels very easily in the ussher, and thought they of all people would stick to the library rules!

Jonathan · 16-12-2009 10:55pm

lol @ 24 hour study space closing for almost 2 weeks over Christmas.

Brian · 16-12-2009 11:22pm

lol @ cleaning staff needing holidays

PurpleFistMixer · 17-12-2009 12:05am

Jonathan wrote: »

lol @ 24 hour study space closing for almost 2 weeks over Christmas.

Yeah. Not happy about this. Good thing there aren't any important exams right after Christmas oh wait...

Larianne · 17-12-2009 12:27pm

Baza210 wrote: »

lol @ cleaning staff needing holidays

I guess the college can't afford to pay the double/triple time these people would be entitled to over the Christmas holidays. Fair enough.

Mark200 · 17-12-2009 2:09pm

Larianne wrote: »

I guess the college can't afford to pay the double/triple time these people would be entitled to over the Christmas holidays. Fair enough.

I don't see why 'Christmas Holidays' should consist of more than three or four days.

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