Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

essexman · 22-11-2009 01:22PM

i never saw that monaluan prince coming. no cuts till bang on 12. they're shutting the door on us market watchers. edits all round.

pizzor · 22-11-2009 03:11PM

both PWE selections lost not in the picture at all, also makes it one win out of the last 25 with 4 second placings in the 25.

POINTBREAK · 22-11-2009 03:18PM

Sun November 22nd
Pricewise Extra
Saturday and Sunday ONLY
8 losers (TS)
1 winners (9/1-6/1) Betfair SP was 8.39
Present Sequence 3 losers

Profit/Loss@SP.............. -3
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice +0

The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri -12 at SP
PWE Tom Sega -1 at SP
Price Column -13.4 at SP

pizzor · 22-11-2009 03:39PM

paddy power gone half way thru the race

POINTBREAK · 22-11-2009 03:47PM

pizzor wrote: »

paddy power gone half way thru the race

Fell in a 4 horse pile up at the first according to Ladbrokes commentary.

POINTBREAK · 22-11-2009 03:49PM

Sun....22nd November Update
Tom Segal Pricewise Column
15 losers (TS)
1 winners 13/8
Present Sequence 9 Losers

[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@SP................-13.4"]P[/email]rofit/Loss@SP................-13.4
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice -13.4

argosy2006 · 22-11-2009 04:40PM

worst month ever,and not over yet:mad:

pizzor · 22-11-2009 05:51PM

argosy2006 wrote: »

worst month ever,and not over yet:mad:

we've had a few second places (close ones) at a bigger prices(advised) with PWE with Psi at 11/1, captain cole at 16/1, Parnykle at 14/1 and Nikola at 16/1. If all of them came thru we would be rejoicing but they didnt.

We've had some hard luck this month.

Pricewise also had a second and third placings in one race both we're at 12/1 advised. They have also had another second placing at around 5/1. Also to be noted was Mourilyan coming third in the melbourne cup which was also a Tom Segal PW selection. All those placings came within 4-5 days.

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 12:55AM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Fell in a 4 horse pile up at the first according to Ladbrokes commentary.

I just watched the race on ATR he was brought down at the first. It looked like a horse fell about 3 or 4 lengths in front of him and when he jumped the fence he landed on it.

pizzor · 23-11-2009 02:09AM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

I just watched the race on ATR he was brought down at the first. It looked like a horse fell about 3 or 4 lengths in front of him and when he jumped the fence he landed on it.

ah ok lol

mike65 · 23-11-2009 01:02PM

1.40 Ludlow - Sacrilege 8.50
2.50 Ludlow - Nelson 7.00

pizzor · 23-11-2009 01:04PM

todays selection on the RP website late agian *sigh* stuffs me up hard

argosy2006 · 23-11-2009 01:05PM

nelson?

mike65 · 23-11-2009 01:06PM

yep

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 02:21PM

Before Mondays Racing.......
The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri -12 @ SP
PWE Tom Segal -1 @ SP
Price Column -13.4 @ SP

pizzor · 23-11-2009 02:41PM

wow wtf was that, probably unseated delibrately so we would lose before the thing even started ahah

slothrop · 23-11-2009 02:41PM

Unseated at the start. Tape fear.

mike65 · 23-11-2009 02:49PM

Does that count as a non runner/withdrawn?!

pizzor · 23-11-2009 03:56PM

last 6 selctions have failed to finish the race

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 03:59PM

AFTER Mondays Racing.......
The overall picture this month
PWE Mon/Fri-14 @ SP
PWE Tom Segal -1 @ SP
Price Column -13.4 @ SP

mike65 · 23-11-2009 04:04PM

Thats it I'm finished with this until evidence suggests I should bother again.

pizzor · 23-11-2009 04:19PM

3 out of last 32
1 out of the last 29
6 races in a row where the horse has failed to finish (either unseated or fell)

Got a feeling they will pick 1 or 2 winners before the end of the month, this is PWE we're talking about this can't last forever.

The Might Mac · 23-11-2009 05:34PM

I've been a lurker on this site for some time now - and not for the reason you're probably thinking!

I make an additional income from punting. My approach is loathed by a lot of people (I produce my own tissue and back horses I consider 'value') but it's something which appeals and is fruitful.

However, what I want to say is that the Pricewise columns are obviously doing very well. What, 'well?' I hear you ask. Well, yes they are.

Of all the people I know making any profit at punting, the biggest return I've heard about is roughly 15% a year. That figure includes losing months - just the like the one you're experiencing right now. So for every £100 staked, if you're making a 15% return on investment, you're getting £115 back.

It seems to me that lots of you are making a return of bigger than that - in total! Therefore, stick with it and ensure you have a 'bank' that can accept long losing runs. Everyone has them. I think it helps to try and view the losing run as inevitable and accept that things 'should' improve over the long term.

For example, on Saturday I had a number of bets which were close to being successful. Biggest bet of the season on Starluck, backed Saphir des Bois at Haydock, backed Imperial Commander, backed Kia Kaha... all traded close to 1.1 and in some cases lower - but it just happens. It's not anyone conspiring against me, just a run of events which drove me mad. This month for me a loss of 2-3%. However, looking at the last 2 years I've made a profit. Nothing to write home about but something to see me through the losing run.

Your losing run is just that.. probably. View your wins as like stacking up coal in the winter. Your losers drain your resources, but just make sure your store is healthy and don't start trying to steal next door's coal.

Best of luck everyone.

This is not an advert for Pricewise, honestly. I read the boards to see what he's picked knowing that if I've got one in my book I want to back and the PE team tip it, I'll have to get my money on quicker.

Good luck.

Seanohea · 23-11-2009 06:57PM

i'm not going to lose faith, i concentrate on Segal in pricewise extra and next week is a big week for him. If the midweek crew do badly as they do the majority of the time Tom will have to bail pricewise extra out again. November was always going to be a difficult month, the changeover from flat to jumps, absolutely atrocious weather, a lot of new novices and regular campaigners having their first race back. I sure wont be giving up, i hope they get theyre profit for the month, but would love it if they were forced to change the midweek line up of tipsters due to a month of a loss to give more days to proven decent tipsters with a good strikerate

Pj! · 23-11-2009 07:45PM

The Might Mac wrote: »

Of all the people I know making any profit at punting, the biggest return I've heard about is roughly 15% a year.

Higher than 25% is very possible.

essexman · 23-11-2009 08:04PM

I'll leave up to you if you want to include it in the totals Pointbreak but atouchbetweenacara is out of the hennesey. TS gave it as an antepost pricewise and i've done me' money. boo, tom, boo.

candlegrease · 23-11-2009 08:29PM

Forky wrote: »

Higher than 25% is very possible.

No.

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 08:46PM

Seanohea wrote: »

i'm not going to lose faith, i concentrate on Segal in pricewise extra and next week is a big week for him. If the midweek crew do badly as they do the majority of the time Tom will have to bail pricewise extra out again. November was always going to be a difficult month, the changeover from flat to jumps, absolutely atrocious weather, a lot of new novices and regular campaigners having their first race back. I sure wont be giving up, i hope they get theyre profit for the month, but would love it if they were forced to change the midweek line up of tipsters due to a month of a loss to give more days to proven decent tipsters with a good strikerate

The reason I started keeping a record was specifically to compare the midweek boys with Segal. I dont really have enough data yet to be able to conclude anything because its only been a few months. But with a bit more time we will be able to see a more clear picture.

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 10:11PM

Mon....23nd November Update
Tom Segal Pricewise Column
15 losers (TS)
1 winners 13/8
Present Sequence 9 Losers

[EMAIL="Profit/Loss@SP................-14.4"]P[/email]rofit/Loss@SP................-14.4
Profit/Loss@AdvisedPrice -14.4 ... includes Ante-Post

POINTBREAK · 23-11-2009 10:14PM

23rd November PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
20 losers
2 Winners
Andrew Barr 2-9 (5/1-7/2) (3/1-5/2)
Mel Collier 0-7
Matt Williams 0-4
Profit at advised Stakes Minus -12
Profit at SP.................. Minus -14
Present Sequence ***_____1100000000000000000000......20 losers in a row for the Mon/Fri boys.......... .

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