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Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

  • 06-11-2009 07:51PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1106/breaking64.htm

    Supreme Court hears Izevbekhai case


    Nigerian mother Pamela Izevbekhai has told the Supreme Court a sworn statement from a doctor asserting she never had a child who died as a result of complications from female genital mutilation (FGM) is untrue. She claims she has a certificate from another doctor to prove the child’s death.
    Representing herself in the Supreme Court today after her fourth set of lawyers withdrew over what they described as a threatening anonymous postcard, Ms Izevbekhai said her first child Elizabeth died in July 1994 and she has obtained evidence from another doctor certifying this.
    Her case was before the court today following an application from the State to have her entire appeal against the deportation of herself and her two daughters dismissed as an abuse of court process.
    This application was adjourned but she unsuccessfully opposed the State’s application to admit additional affidavits containing new evidence disputing her case.
    She said the affidavits were not true, that they affected her credibility and that she had no knowledge that a previous affidavit and death certificate submitted on her behalf were forged.
    Those affidavits include one by Dr Joseph Unakajo, a Nigerian gynaecologist, whose name was used to support a death certificate and FGM allegations concerning Elizabeth during earlier hearings of Ms Izevbekhai’s asylum application.
    In the affidavit, sworn after Irish officials travelled to Nigeria to investigate the case further, Dr Unakajo said Ms Izevbekhai’s first child was born in 2000 and she did not have a child prior this this. He said she had tried to get him to issue a certificate in relation to Elizabeth but he refused.
    In an affidavit from Irish embassy official, Cormac McHenry, he said he went last February to a local government office in Nigeria, from which the original death certificate (used in Ms Izevbekhai’s asylum application) had allegedly issued, and found no such certificate on file in that office.
    Ms Izevbekhai, in a replying affidavit, said she “entirely rejected” the doctor’s claim that she gave birth to her first child in 2000. The death certificate which she originally supplied was obtained through a friend and she did not accept it was forged because she did not know, she said.
    Addressing the court, Ms Izevbekhai said Dr Unakajo was there at the death of her child while a Dr E Ori later carried out a post mortem. She had since obtained a death certificate from this second doctor through her brother in Nigeria.
    She said she believed Dr Unakajo was acting under influence and she did not even know if this was the same doctor she knew. She said her credbility was being seriously affected especially because the chief justice of Nigeria and the Nigerian ambassador had said she was causing embarrassment to their country.
    Earlier the court heard an anonymous postcard was sent to Ms Izevbekhai’s solicitors telling them to “back off” and claiming she was “the greatest con-artist ever”.
    As a result solicitors Murphy McElligott from Dun Laoghaire, Dublin, asked that they be allowed to withdraw from representing Ms Izevbekhai.
    The court initially refused the application to allow them to withdraw. However, after they lodged a formal application saying Ms Izevbekhai wanted to represent herself because she did not want anybody to be under threat, they were permitted to withdraw.
    Sharon McElligott of Murphy McElligotts solicitors, said in an affidavit an anonymous postcard received at their office on October 23rd last had been taken extremely seriously and the gardai were investigating.
    In the handwritten postcard, the writer states: “Take my advice, back off now, Pamela is the greatest con artist ever.” The writer says Ms Izevbekhai’s husband was deported from England and Italy and she was “making a fool out of the Irish people and costing tax to Irish people.” The writer added: “I know, I am Nigerian, she manipulates everybody.”
    Mr Justice Adrian Hardiman, presiding, said threats were made all the time to lawyers and they had to overcome them. After accepting the formal application to allow Ms Izevbekhai represent herself, he told counsel for Murphy McElligott it was “a pity that had not been done in the first instance instead of a solicitor making an application to come off record on the basis of an anonymous postcard”.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭RoadKillTs


    There is something a bit off about this case. I don't know. Just have a weird feeling about it.

    Who would have contacted the solicitors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    ^
    There's nothing off about this case at all.. She should be sent back to Nigeria.

    This has been discussed in depth on the politics forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I'm not in any way sticking up for her - but OUR legal system allows her to be here - so according to OUR system she's entitled to be here.

    - we have so many appeal processes and so many levels of courts - even if unsuccessful in Supreme (why am I saying "Even" - she cant win.... WHEN unsuccessful in Supreme court).

    she can then appeal the decision to the European courts.... allowing her (and kids) to remain in the country until that hearing goes ahead.

    she cant do anything if she was picked up and deported - she was very quick to hide when there was a deportation order made in her name and attempts were made to execute it. (of course she got help from the usual Civil Rights activists)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭cmpunk


    Why is she still here ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    She was on her fourth set of lawyers!
    She must be super rich, very few people in Ireland could afford to hire this and take appeal after appeal.

    Or was she getting it from free? Are her civil rights supporters paying? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    showmered wrote: »
    Why is she still here ?

    because the legal system allows her to remain in the country to complete an appeals process....personally I would have picked her up and shipped her home once she came out of hiding to start her legal action.


    who pays for her legal fees ?

    EDIT: Mikemac - I like yer thinking :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    1. Her appeal is getting paid for (I don't know by whom)
    2. This seems to be yet ANOTHER delay. I think the Sc should put their foot down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    1. Her appeal is getting paid for (I don't know by whom)
    2. This seems to be yet ANOTHER delay. I think the Sc should put their foot down.

    todays action was her legal team asking can they come off record (ie. not represent her)

    so she now faces the prospect of a supreme court action - on her own (without proper legal advice).... which means she will have a strong case to have the matter adjourned for at least 12months.

    In fairness today was one of the first times I didnt see ANY of the usual Civil Rights Activists turning up to the courts in support of her - I think maybe they have abandoned her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I'm not sure who's paying for her, to date, 22 court appearances but according to The Curious case of Pamela Izevbekhai her legal costs are running to €500,000.

    Tbh, I'd have thought it was more. God only knows what the final figure will be.

    Why is she still here, dunno. Probably for the same reason that other guy, Kunal (was that his name) is still here. We're too bloody soft thats why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭MAB83


    I'm not sure who's paying for her, to date, 22 court appearances but according to The Curious case of Pamela Izevbekhai her legal costs are running to €500,000.

    Tbh, I'd have thought it was more. God only knows what the final figure will be.

    Why is she still here, dunno. Probably for the same reason that other guy, Kunal (was that his name) is still here. We're too bloody soft thats why.

    Exactly. Only in Ireland! :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    If she is not removed from Ireland she should be imprisoned here. She is more than likely being bankrolled by the Labour party and Amnesty. Ireland is the laughing stock of Africa and if we do not close the doors on immigration then soon there will be no Ireland left. It is a disgrace and she should be deported along time ago. People have even sent her lawyers "death threats" no doubt an attempt to flash the race card in an attempt to get sympathy from some liberal idiots here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    I'll be thinking of her on budget day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    What are those Nigerians playing at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    If she is not removed from Ireland she should be imprisoned here. She is more than likely being bankrolled by the Labour party and Amnesty. Ireland is the laughing stock of Africa and if we do not close the doors on immigration then soon there will be no Ireland left. It is a disgrace and she should be deported along time ago. People have even sent her lawyers "death threats" no doubt an attempt to flash the race card in an attempt to get sympathy from some liberal idiots here.

    Did you send any postcards recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Representing herself in the Supreme Court today after her fourth set of lawyers withdrew over what they described as a threatening anonymous postcard,

    anyone have any more info on these postcards?

    Edit: I see it was whizz kid then, ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    anyone have any more info on these postcards?

    A postcard or post card is a rectangular piece of thick paper or thin cardboard intended for writing and mailing without an envelope, but we don't have time for this, Roger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    I can't believe she has the neck to take things this far.

    Firstly her asylum claim should have never been heard in this country. The first "safe" country she landed in was the UK.

    Secondly regardless of the merits of her FGM case, Nigeria is a member of ECOWAS - meaning Nigerians can move to 14/15 other neighbouring countries without the need for a visa. Just like we can move elsewhere in Europe. So she has options open to her if she feels she is being persecuted, international protection (i.e. asylum) is supposed to be a last resort.

    Thirdly FGM is not practised in all of Nigeria, it's outlawed in a good proportion of Nigerian states meaning she does not even have to leave Nigeria to avoid FGM.

    She has absolutely no case under the Convention and shouldn't be entertained in any way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Karoma wrote: »
    A postcard or post card is a rectangular piece of thick paper or thin cardboard intended for writing and mailing without an envelope, but we don't have time for this, Roger.


    smeghead


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    Why am I not surprised that this shyster is still here?

    Disappointed, yes, but not surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Freeloading bitch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    anyone have any more info on these postcards?
    .

    from what I heard it was posted from Spain or one of the Spanish Islands (cant remember) and as the article says Take my advice, back off now, Pamela is the greatest con artist ever.” The writer says Ms Izevbekhai’s husband was deported from England and Italy and she was “making a fool out of the Irish people and costing tax to Irish people.” The writer added: “I know, I am Nigerian, she manipulates everybody.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    from what I heard it was posted from Spain or one of the Spanish Islands (cant remember) and as the article says Take my advice, back off now, Pamela is the greatest con artist ever.” The writer says Ms Izevbekhai’s husband was deported from England and Italy and she was “making a fool out of the Irish people and costing tax to Irish people.” The writer added: “I know, I am Nigerian, she manipulates everybody.”

    You left out

    My name is Pamela Izevbekhai .I work in the credit and accounts department of Union Bank of NigeriaPlc,Lagos, Nigeria. I write you in respect of a
    foreign customer with a Domicilliary account. His name is Engineer Manfred
    Becker. He was among those who died in a plane crash here in Nigeria
    during the reign of late General Sani Abacha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Earlier the court heard an anonymous postcard was sent to Ms Izevbekhai’s solicitors telling them to “back off” and claiming she was “the greatest con-artist ever”.
    As a result solicitors Murphy McElligott from Dun Laoghaire, Dublin, asked that they be allowed to withdraw from representing Ms Izevbekhai.

    A mild mannered postcard from Spain. Is that all it takes to scare off members of the legal profession these days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    dvpower wrote: »
    A mild mannered postcard from Spain. Is that all it takes to scare off members of the legal profession these days?

    Actually, this is a bit odd isn't it? This is a tidbit of info I'm storing away in case I have a divorce or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,701 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The lastest scam that the lawyers are making out that they won't represent her because of death threats. Complete bollox. It's because the womans case is a complete freaking fraud. How it got this far? Well, this is Ireland. Can you imagine any Irish person making trip after trip to the High Court:confused: No, I cannot.

    Well, another load of money wasted in this sh1t hole...:mad:

    BTW, I do not blame her at all. She is simply doing the best she can to stay here; we are the actual problem, the system!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Bandit12


    Way to ride the system Pam :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭okioffice84


    Why would she want to stay in this Sh!thole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    As mentioned before, FGM is not commonly practiced in Nigeria these days nor for sometime. Now I was all supportive of her case when it was reported on originally, because, having written a paper on FGM for college, I was horrified at it.

    However, how that woman can lie about something so savage in order to stay in this shíthole of a country is beyond me!The neck of her, still going at this stage trying to stay in the cushy set up she's got here...she should be kicked out and back to Nigeria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    Despite the monumental case against this absolute time and money wasting fraudster, I'm surprised that at least one member of the boards.ie high horse PC brigade hasn't paid a visit, there were loads of do-gooders supporting her before forged death certificates evidence was produced.

    I'll gladly chip in for a one way ticket to Lagos for her if that the only thing keeping her here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    I think it's called due process...I might be wrong. If it IS anything else then it's wrong.


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