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Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    oceanclub wrote: »
    Perhaps she can stay on condition that Nigeria takes Seanie Fitzgerald.

    P.

    who is he, an annoying neighbour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Sattwa69


    I have been following this case a long time now.
    It is riddled with holes and this woman has no credibility left. I would expect (and hope) she will lose her case next Thursday because she is a liar and more than that she is using her little innocent children for her own selfish reasons. At every court appearance she is seen walking with the two little girls into court (why aren't they in school ? where is her husband?) - what a great way to prompt the do-gooders and bleeding heart brigade into action !

    As for Irish in America, any one of those that is illegal should be thrown out too. they are ILLEGAL and the oul 'top of the mornin' rubbish and playing the leprachaun card is as embarrassing as it is immoral. (Iremember cringing watch Ahern making his speech to the joint houses of the US pleading for these illegals)

    Sponger, chancers and scroungers are not to be encouraged or welcomed regardless of race, nationality colour or creed.

    PS. if you need a Nigerian Death Cert just google for one. They were posted to your home for $20 last time I checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Sattwa69 wrote: »
    playing the leprachaun card

    Lols.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    So will it be decided this thursday if she has to go home?

    If she does what happens to the children?

    are they (children) irish citizens?


    * I thought she lost her case and was deported, did not see anything in the news recently,....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭HollyB


    john-joe wrote: »
    If she does what happens to the children?

    are they (children) irish citizens?

    The children aren't Irish citizens, they were born in Nigeria and are Nigerian citizens. If Pamela loses her case, then she and her daughters will all be deported.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    cut education funding and let an illegal immigrant claim €500,000 on legal fee's,its nice to see we have our priorities in the right order.

    and as for all those liberal dicks playing the "oh the we went to america and were treated terrible,lets not repeat that" card,the irish never went to america and claimed millions in social welfare or ran up such stupid expenses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    As a Nigerian myself ( without any apologies whatsoever !!!!),I think Pamela's case is a joke,I would have have expected that she would have been deported by now as she clearly made false statements in support of her asylum application and this is unacceptable.

    I know this is AH and i have had fun getting used to the Irish sense of humor but it would be highly desirable if people started having an ideographic approach to matters like this rather than a monothetic attitude towards a country of 150 million people.I live in Ireland and never sought asylum here ,I have worked and contributed to the taxman and currently sponsoring myself through a Masters programme after loosing my job. I personally feel it is quite disingenious to keep making generalistic statements about a country of 150 million people when you have arguably just 50,000 of them in Ireland.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    procure11 wrote: »
    As a Nigerian myself ( without any apologies whatsoever !!!!),I think Pamela's case is a joke,I would have have expected that she would have been deported by now as she clearly made false statements in support of her asylum application and this is unacceptable.

    I know this is AH and i have had fun getting used to the Irish sense of humor but it would be highly desirable if people started having an ideographic approach to matters like this rather than a monothetic attitude towards a country of 150 million people.I live in Ireland and never sought asylum here ,I have worked and contributed to the taxman and currently sponsoring myself through a Masters programme after loosing my job. I personally feel it is quite disingenious to keep making generalistic statements about a country of 150 million people when you have arguably just 50,000 of them in Ireland.
    wait wait wait,so you're saying you're illegal and you pay tax?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    wait wait wait,so you're saying you're illegal and you pay tax?

    Good man yourself!!....so you automatically think every Nigerian in Ireland can only reside legally via asylum.I'll suggest you familiarise yourself with the immigration policies of your country(if you are Irish).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    wait wait wait,so you're saying you're illegal and you pay tax?

    Jesus, no he's saying he has worked here and now is undertaking a masters which he is funding himself, that doesn't mean he's illegal. He's just like many many other Nigerians who come here to work and study and contribute to Irish society/economy. Ffs I can't believe the ignorance of your post. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    procure11 wrote: »
    Good man yourself!!....so you automatically think every Nigerian in Ireland can only reside legally via asylum.I'll suggest you familiarise yourself with the immigration policies of your country(if you are Irish).


    He might not be a MAN :):rolleyes:;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,316 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    wait wait wait,so you're saying you're illegal and you pay tax?

    How you got that out of:
    procure11 wrote:
    never sought asylum here

    Tells me a lot.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    john-joe wrote: »
    He might not be a MAN :):rolleyes:;)

    You made a valid point...but man or woman,that individual needs some updating on how the real world truly works especially in an Irish context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    procure11 wrote: »
    As a Nigerian myself ( without any apologies whatsoever !!!!),I think Pamela's case is a joke,I would have have expected that she would have been deported by now as she clearly made false statements in support of her asylum application and this is unacceptable.

    I know this is AH and i have had fun getting used to the Irish sense of humor but it would be highly desirable if people started having an ideographic approach to matters like this rather than a monothetic attitude towards a country of 150 million people.I live in Ireland and never sought asylum here ,I have worked and contributed to the taxman and currently sponsoring myself through a Masters programme after loosing my job. I personally feel it is quite disingenious to keep making generalistic statements about a country of 150 million people when you have arguably just 50,000 of them in Ireland.


    By them i assume you mean 'Nigerians' ?

    also 50,000 in ireland? would they include the undocumented living here??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    john-joe wrote: »
    By them i assume you mean 'Nigerians' ?

    also 50,000 in ireland? would they include the undocumented living here??

    You are entitled to your opinion but you are definitely not entitled to your own facts....give me the stats mate!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    procure11 wrote: »
    You are entitled to your opinion but you are definitely not entitled to your own facts....give me the stats mate!!

    Sorry 'mate' but It was you who mentioned the figure of 50,000....

    I was simply asking was that including undocumented living here...

    Touchy aren't we? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    john-joe wrote: »
    Sorry 'mate' but It was you who mentioned the figure of 50,000....

    I was simply asking was that including undocumented living here...

    Touchy aren't we? ;)


    Touchy????.....I am actually enjoying the discussion tbh..

    If you had the fortitude to read my post ...I said "arguably" 50,000 nigerians are living in Ireland.If you think that number is incorrect,it should be your prerogative to provide what the accurate population of Nigerians (both legal and "undocumented") are living in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    procure11 wrote: »
    Touchy????.....I am actually enjoying the discussion tbh..

    If you had the fortitude to read my post ...I said "arguably" 50,000 nigerians are living in Ireland.If you think that number is incorrect,it should be your prerogative to provide what the accurate population of Nigerians (both legal and "undocumented") are living in Ireland.

    Well I have read your post and I would love to provide you with the actual offical statistic for the population of nigerians here in ireland but it seems the documents have gone missing :-(

    If someone could find them please update the post with the info :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭john-joe


    Morlar wrote: »


    Doh! I actually clicked on that link..... :D:D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    walshb wrote: »
    Can you imagine any Irish person making trip after trip to the High Court:confused: No, I cannot.


    You are joking, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    50,000 to many?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    terenc wrote: »
    50,000 to many?

    You mean too many.

    Nothing worse than racism with bad grammar. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Sorry, any chance you fecking off too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭HollyB


    john-joe wrote: »

    Hasn't been updated in months - where are the outpourings of support now that Pamela is due before the Supreme Court on Friday, or even links to the new articles about her? It's not like supporters of this case to be so quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    terenc wrote: »
    Sorry, any chance you fecking off too.

    Absolutely none.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    You mean too many.

    Nothing worse than racism with bad grammar. :pac:
    terenc wrote: »
    Sorry, any chance you fecking off too.

    Both of you cut it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    HollyB wrote: »
    - where are the outpourings of support now that Pamela is due before the Supreme Court on Friday, or even links to the new articles about her? It's not like supporters of this case to be so quiet.

    I did believe her, her child went to school with mine. I spoke to her and found her to be a lovely, sociable, pleasant woman. Unfortunatly, I don't believe her now. I wouldn't condemn people who supported her, a lot of people gave up their time to support a, what was thought, family in desperate need. I really hope it doesn't stop them doing so in the future.

    My daughter still asks me where her friend has gone, and what happened to them as a family. :( (I deftly avoid the subject, as any canny parent would by swift use of crack cocaine in TV form the Disney Channel)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭HollyB


    I did believe her, her child went to school with mine. I spoke to her and found her to be a lovely, sociable, pleasant woman. Unfortunatly, I don't believe her now. I wouldn't condemn people who supported her, a lot of people gave up their time to support a, what was thought, family in desperate need. I really hope it doesn't stop them doing so in the future.

    My daughter still asks me where her friend has gone, and what happened to them as a family. :( (I deftly avoid the subject, as any canny parent would by swift use of crack cocaine in TV form the Disney Channel)

    That would be my fear.

    The system isn't perfect and, should a case where there is a genuine need for asylum slip through the cracks, a support campaign could mean the difference between deportation and safety. If former supporters of the Izevbekhai family no longer believe them, then it could be wiser for them to distance themselves from the case, so that their support of the Izevbekhais won't be a black mark against them in the future, should they support another asylum seeker whose claim for protection was mistakenly rejected.

    I can only imagine how difficult it would be to explain this case to a child. Did your daughter know much of what was happening with the case beforehand?


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