Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

markhiggins · 03-11-2009 01:49PM

sorry about the delay gents here they are

markhiggins · 03-11-2009 01:51PM

ertie May 4.00 Exeter
1pt win at 12-1 with Betfred and Ladbrokes
Although bigger early-morning odds about Bertie May have been nibbled away, at 12-1 he still looks over-priced for this handicap chase, getting plenty of weight from most rivals on a day when that is likely to count for plenty, writes Andrew Barr.
Admittedly Bertie May's lowly position in the handicap is due to his poor form in four chases last season, but Kevin Bishop is sure to have worked on his jumping in the interim and he definitely has the size and scope to make a chaser.

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» 4.00 Exeter card

On hurdle form Bertie May is well treated, 15lb lower than when a good fifth on his reappearancein a decent handicap at Newbury last November.
He also went well fresh when winning his debut bumper in 2007, and he showed a liking for Exeter when gaining his only novice hurdle win at the track in 2008. Trip and going are ideal too, so take a chance at a double-figure price.

Bertie May
Exeter - 4:00

markhiggins · 03-11-2009 01:52PM

Paddy's Tern
4.30 Exeter
1pt win at 7-1 generally
Not many in this field will cope well with the testing trip and going in this handicap hurdle, but conditions should hold few fears for Paddy's Tern, writes Andrew Barr.

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» 4.30 Exeter card

Beaten a short-head in this race last year, on his return from a summer break, he follows the same pattern this time and looks weighted to have every chance. He races off the same mark of 107, but this time he has the added assistance of Peter Toole's valuable 5lb claim.
Kim Bailey produced Midnight Haze fit from a layoff to win a handicap chase at Kempton yesterday, another fact that augurs well for Paddy's Tern.

Paddy's Tern
Exeter - 4:30

magherakid · 03-11-2009 01:53PM

Cheers mark

cson · 03-11-2009 02:39PM

7/1 for Paddys Tern is taking the piss now tbh - he was 10/3 in my local bookies at 1pm.

Two good winners yesterday but Barr would do well to stop advising fairytale prices.

mike65 · 03-11-2009 02:59PM

Well I got 13/2 on Paddys Tern, you just have to be quickish (now 9/2 on PP)

Fineform · 03-11-2009 03:17PM

You can't expect a Pricewise horse to hold out at the advised odds for more than a couple of minutes at best during the week. The only way you will get on at those prices is to have internet access with a number of bookmaker accounts and be very quick.

I did get 7-1 with Coral but it was gone by 12:04!

mike65 · 03-11-2009 04:05PM

Fineform wrote: »

Tom Segal as Pricewise in the Racing Post tips Panjo Bere in the William Hill Gold Cup Chase (15:00 at Exeter) today.

Nowhere, not a race to get involved with tbh.

Fineform · 03-11-2009 04:36PM

mike65 wrote: »

Nowhere, not a race to get involved with tbh.

Pulled up but he was a massive price this morning early at 25-1.

I managed to get on and lay later with Betafair at half the odds so got a free bet!

Bubs101 · 03-11-2009 04:42PM

Got a complaint about this thread which looked like it had some legal jargon in it so I'm gonna lock this thread now and delete/unlock it based on what some the higher powers say

Bubs101 · 03-11-2009 07:09PM

I'm re-opening this thread but there is to be absolutely no more copying and pasting tips from a subscription site. If you want to share a tip that you have gotten that's fine, there's nothing to stop you doing that as far as I know or to prove where you've gotten it but you can't rob a tip and the reasoning behind it and a strategy they give you and then post it here.

I could have deleted this so I'm expecting you to behave and use a little subtlety in future

mike65 · 03-11-2009 07:15PM

Grand. Crap day, three loosers. Close the thread! :pac:

POINTBREAK · 03-11-2009 08:05PM

3rd November PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
2 losers
2 Winners
Andrew Barr 2-2 (5/1-7/2) (3/1-5/2)
Mel Collier 0-0
Matt Williams 0-0
Profit at advised Stakes PLUS 7
Profit at SP..................PLUS 5
Present Sequence .......1100

Darragh · 03-11-2009 08:05PM

Bubs101 wrote: »

I'm re-opening this thread but there is to be absolutely no more copying and pasting tips from a subscription site. If you want to share a tip that you have gotten that's fine, there's nothing to stop you doing that as far as I know or to prove where you've gotten it but you can't rob a tip and the reasoning behind it and a strategy they give you and then post it here.

I could have deleted this so I'm expecting you to behave and use a little subtlety in future

In particular there are to be no tips from RacingPost.com. They have been in touch and have asked us to politely request this before they have to take further action, including matching accounts on their site with accounts here and closing the RacingPost accounts.

We have not been asked to provide any information on accounts from our side, but to make it clear that it is in breach of their terms and conditions and they will follow it up with account holders who do this.

Be careful out there.

mike65 · 03-11-2009 08:12PM

Interesting. Before they went subscription it was straightfoward, look and type. Then it was watch the markets and make an educated guess (which was correct about 99% of the time) then we got lucky with a subscriber or two helping out, which got us in trouble. So if we start guessing (99% correctly) are we okay?

Better edit the thread title as well I guess.

Nulty · 03-11-2009 10:55PM

surely there must be circumstances under which we may glean...or hazard a guess at which tips are being given out by Racing Post.

Its obviously unacceptable from their point of view to copy and paste their tips from paid accounts to here but can they stop our treasure hunt?

Nulty · 03-11-2009 10:57PM

mike65 wrote: »

Interesting. Before they went subscription it was straightfoward, look and type. Then it was watch the markets and make an educated guess (which was correct about 99% of the time) then we got lucky with a subscriber or two helping out, which got us in trouble. So if we start guessing (99% correctly) are we okay?

Better edit the thread title as well I guess.

yeah.....omit "money printing"

mike65 · 03-11-2009 11:10PM

:pac:

Seanohea · 03-11-2009 11:47PM

I thought something might happen sooner or later. I suppose theres nothing stopping us putting the tips up, as long as we dont copy and paste.

I think they should be glad in some way, think of all the people we got interested in pricewise and pricewise extra that maybe werent as interested before, i'm sure they got a couple of extra subscriptions or a few more people buying the paper. I'm glad the thread has stayed open though, its great to be able to talk about the tips and the winners.

j@utis · 04-11-2009 01:03AM

Nulty wrote: »

yeah.....omit "money printing"

no no! change it to "money burning"

:D:D

Seanohea · 04-11-2009 01:15AM

For the people that don't know this already, here is the pricewise extra phoneline number 1560303477.
Tips become available at 12 midday and whatever tipster is giving the tip on the day is on the line telling you who they are and giving you the tip or tips for the day. It costs 1.50 euro for the call. Considering the success of some of their tipsters, and if you follow at the right stakes the 1.50 cost of the call is negligible

pizzor · 04-11-2009 09:24AM

Seanohea wrote: »

For the people that don't know this already, here is the pricewise extra phoneline number 1560303477.
Tips become available at 12 midday and whatever tipster is giving the tip on the day is on the line telling you who they are and giving you the tip or tips for the day. It costs 1.50 euro for the call. Considering the success of some of their tipsters, and if you follow at the right stakes the 1.50 cost of the call is negligible

or even sign p for this service it will pay off in the end imo as Seanohea said if u get closest to the advised price and have the right amount of money on as a 1pt for u.

markhiggins · 04-11-2009 12:21PM

im sure i can stil come on with opinions of mine on races everyday so if i happen to have the same as pwe thats just chance isnt it! just have to get rid of the copy and paste function!!

magherakid · 04-11-2009 12:55PM

So mark whats your opinions 2day do share

mike65 · 04-11-2009 01:01PM

Looks like Kempton 7.20 Petomic

yep it is.

qc3 · 04-11-2009 01:01PM

Petomic 7.20 8/1 - 5/1.straight in with over 800 bets

markhiggins · 04-11-2009 01:15PM

posted it on the fancies for today thread

POINTBREAK · 04-11-2009 01:28PM

OK, that is far too close to what got the complaint in the first place, you even used the same colors and although I'm sure your dedicated I doubt you follow the market moves specifically for those bets. Don't do it again

POINTBREAK · 04-11-2009 04:09PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

OK, that is far too close to what got the complaint in the first place, you even used the same colors and although I'm sure your dedicated I doubt you follow the market moves specifically for those bets. Don't do it again

OK Bubs. First.I dont understand though. Are you saying that the complaint was in regard to me keeping a record of how their tips performed?

Second, I do follow the market specifically for those bets. Mike and others, who post here came up with a way of working out the tips from the timing of the market moves and that is exactly what I do. If you dont follow racing you wouldnt understand how it works, but its simply cause and effect. The tip causes the market to make that tip the best backed horse of the day in most cases because of the volume of subcribers who back it. There are other factors, but that is basically it.

Third
By the time I post my record the information is already in the public domain since it it published by racing relay in a different formatand in much greater detail. Each time the RacingPost tips a winner it is also published by them.

Nulty · 04-11-2009 04:49PM

Its pretty impressive that this thread shook boards enough to get a post from the communications manager. Could go down in boards-lore:rolleyes:

Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

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