Dublin Bus

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 8:31pm #1

Went on a bit of a nose today and saw this

Got a load more pics of the old fleet thats been retired and of other Buses that were involved in accidents/burnt out that are just derilict but not sure if this is the place to post them

dunno but I couldnt find a "BUS" related thread

carchaeologist · 21-10-2009 8:50pm

Post away,its all good!:) Whats the story with E14 pictured above,it looks a little worse for wear?

Thought that was being kept in good order?Being pedantic,its not a Dublin bus either,as its from the early 60s.Sad to see it like that..:(

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:18pm

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:20pm

Fleet retirements including the training school buses ???

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:24pm

Is that the first AV to be retired????

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:26pm

The sign says it all

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:27pm

Uniform RA and tree cutting RA

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:32pm

AV32(Right)

This bus that was involved in a tragic accident a few years back on the Quays and was never returned to service

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:37pm

On the scrap heap few get to see

Dunno what when the damage happened to these buses but I presume thats what led them to be there

Blue Punto · 21-10-2009 9:39pm

Anyone else into buses....post your pics

Ill try to keep this updated if there is interest:)

atlantean · 21-10-2009 9:45pm

Good man - some interesting photos - keep them coming

carchaeologist · 21-10-2009 9:53pm

Classic Irish Bus porn
http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/Introduction.html

Aclass · 21-10-2009 10:00pm

hi there im intresed how much are they how can you buy them do you have a link and price list thanks a mill

carchaeologist · 21-10-2009 10:01pm

Some of these have been previously posted but in the spirit of the thread ill post again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP8tpqZrtl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQOlJItjeZQ

Bucketloads of this kinda thing on Youtube nowadays if you do a search.

Blue850 · 21-10-2009 10:06pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

Went on a bit of a nose today and saw this

Got a load more pics of the old fleet thats been retired and of other Buses that were involved in accidents/burnt out that are just derilict but not sure if this is the place to post them

dunno but I couldnt find a "BUS" related thread

wow , a blast from the past, my dad drove for CIE , in around Galway city and county in the 70's and early 80s, if he had the Galway to Eyrecourt run, he'd collect my brothers and myself on the way back in the evening and bring us to the depot where we could run amok for awhile:D:
We used to get the odd spin to Limerick on a Sunday on an Expressway like this
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Saab Ed · 21-10-2009 11:56pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

Jaysus they're KR class GAC's. I thought they were all gone. I was a bus nut as a kid and actualy wrote to FFG in Germany looking for development information on the KD/KE/KR class of buses. Much to my suprise ( after sending the hand written letter in English aged 11 ) I got a response. They sent me back technical drawings, photos of early prototype tests in Germany ( that went on to be KD1 painted yellow at the time and KE1) and some lovely pictures of the first KR parked with Merc trolley buses and the like in Germany. Im sorry to say that most of the pictures were lost in a move to Austria many years back. Must have a sniff in the attic to see if any are left. Great pics OP, thanks a lot.

superboy · 22-10-2009 2:48pm

SAVAGE!!!!!! were all these lying on the conyngham road depot??? and to think i used to pass there every day...... must've been asleep!!

overdriver · 22-10-2009 8:56pm

Great thread.

How much would a Bus be I wonder????????

artic · 22-10-2009 8:59pm

overdriver wrote: »

Great thread.

How much would a Bus be I wonder????????

+++++1 Great Thread

VolvoMan · 22-10-2009 9:07pm

This really is great stuff, thanks!

I see in one of the photos there is a withdrawn learner driver Bombardier. Surely it can't have been in service as a learner up until that recently?

atlantean · 22-10-2009 9:10pm

overdriver wrote: »

How much would a Bus be I wonder????????

I have enough problems trying to store my cars - never mind a bus!!!

kenon · 22-10-2009 9:16pm

overdriver wrote: »

Great thread.

How much would a Bus be I wonder????????

I was just thinkin' that! I want a bus!!. I might email them and see if they'd give me a price on one.

I'd take one of these...

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Blue Punto · 22-10-2009 9:29pm

VolvoMan wrote: »

This really is great stuff, thanks!

I see in one of the photos there is a withdrawn learner driver Bombardier. Surely it can't have been in service as a learner up until that recently?

Think its a trick of the light

All the Driving school buses where Leyland or Volvo Olympians

Blue Punto · 22-10-2009 9:35pm

How much ???

Well the Dublin Bus ones are on etenders.ie

Title:Sale of Used VehiclesPublished by:Dublin Bus / Bus Atha CliathPublication Date:12/10/2009Application Deadline:
Notice Deadline Date:30/10/2009Notice Deadline Time:17:00Notice Type:Invitation to TenderHas Documents:YesAbstract:Dublin Bus offer for Sale :

59 x 1999 Volvo Olympian Double Deck Buses. Vehicles are 1999 Volvo Olympian with Alexander (Belfast) Bodywork, Volvo D10A-245 Turbo charged Diesel Engines, ZF4HP500 /Voith 863.3 Electronically controlled Transmissions. Seating capacity- 47U/S 27 L/S. twin entrance / exit doors. Vehicles entered service in 1999.

2 x 1990/1 Leyland Olympian Double Deck Open Top Vehicles- Cummins L10-185 Engines/ ZF4HP500 Transmissions- converted to Open Deck configuration- PLEASE NOTE!! -these 2 Vehicles are offerd on a SOLD AS SEEN basis.

If my memory serves me right I heard the last batch that were sold went for about 40k each

carchaeologist · 22-10-2009 9:37pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

Anyone know why this looks so ragged?Its a damn shame.

Saab Ed · 22-10-2009 9:49pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

How much ???

If my memory serves me right I heard the last batch that were sold went for about 40k each

Bloody shame to see good buses with lots of life in them yet being sold to the UK. Someone in CIE hasnt figured out that the Celtic Tiger is over. I just dont understand why 10 year old buses are being axed. Crazy IMO.

VolvoMan · 22-10-2009 10:08pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

Think its a trick of the light

All the Driving school buses where Leyland or Volvo Olympians

After a second look there I think you're probably right.

Saab Ed wrote: »

Bloody shame to see good buses with lots of life in them yet being sold to the UK. Someone in CIE hasnt figured out that the Celtic Tiger is over. I just dont understand why 10 year old buses are being axed. Crazy IMO.

I think the fact that Dublin Bus are reducing a lot of their fleet as a cost-saving measure is contributing to their early withdrawal. In recent years they brought in a policy of withdrawing them after twelve years, from what I read.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-10-2009 10:55pm

Blue Punto wrote: »

AV32(Right)

This bus that was involved in a tragic accident a few years back on the Quays and was never returned to service

I would have imagined it would have been scrapped or cannibalized for parts by now. fair play for them for not having it back on the road after that.

BrianD3 · 23-10-2009 11:46pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Jaysus they're KR class GAC's. I thought they were all gone.

Are you aware of the Kells Transport Musem in Cork? They have loads of KCs and a few KRs and KDs. The museum is a pretty controversial operation!
http://www.kellstransportmuseum.com/

KeRbDoG · 24-10-2009 9:21am

superboy wrote: »

SAVAGE!!!!!! were all these lying on the conyngham road depot??? and to think i used to pass there every day...... must've been asleep!!

Think the majority of these are up in Broadstone depot, the tour buses and trainers are still in use as far as i know

Blue Punto · 24-10-2009 12:45pm

Two of the tour buses are up for ssale as per the advert above

The training buses have been parked there a while now and 2 others are mixed in with the for sale bunch so I would imagine that they are also up for sale.

All the RV buses (99 models) will be retiring soon so maybe new trainers will be on the way in the form of av models

overdriver · 24-10-2009 1:14pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

Are you aware of the Kells Transport Musem in Cork? They have loads of KCs and a few KRs and KDs. The museum is a pretty controversial operation!
http://www.kellstransportmuseum.com/

why is it controversial?

BrianD3 · 24-10-2009 6:55pm

why is it controversial?

It has been described as a scrapyard waiting to happen. With the "museum" consisting of hundreds of buses stored outside and various states of (dis)repair, it is easy to see where this idea comes from. The owner of the museum is also a well known eccentric who has had numerous run ins with various parties - the County Council, Cork Airport, Readymix, the ESB, Bus Eireann and possibly with other bus preservation enthusiasts too..

Gary ITR · 25-10-2009 3:18pm

Brilliant thread. I love seeing all of the old Dublin Bus livery

Gary ITR · 25-10-2009 7:52pm

http://shane-conway.fotopic.net/p34482099.html

These buses were ran up until the mid 90's in Dublin. They used to be on the 22 route. Anybody know anything about this particular type of bus?

Gary ITR · 26-10-2009 12:34am

http://www.wheelingintheyears.com/

Just spent the last hour or so browsing this site

Blue Punto · 26-10-2009 11:26am

Onkle wrote: »

http://shane-conway.fotopic.net/p34482099.html

These buses were ran up until the mid 90's in Dublin. They used to be on the 22 route. Anybody know anything about this particular type of bus?

All you want to know about the Atlantean is here Onkle

http://www.nationaltransportmuseum.org/b003.html

Blue Punto · 26-10-2009 11:42am

And just an after thought

The Atlanteans are by far my favorite bus

Molly 1 DF450/450 ZD which was the first Ghost tour bus is still to be officaly retired.
After entering service in 1972 it is the oldest serving bus in the country and after its life serving many routes was converted into an open top tour bus and then re-roofed giving it the distintion of being the only bus to have this job done

Pic taken from flickr as I hope to get to Ringsend to get a pic of molly for my own collection

Blue Punto · 26-10-2009 12:17pm

Just another note on the pics on the first page I have the buses tagged as RA's when that are actually RH's

And I heard that the airlink AV118 in the same batch of pics was to become a new ghost tour bus but that now seems unlikely with a for sale sign on her

I heard it was a very unreliable machine so maybe that had something to do with it

corktina · 26-10-2009 1:00pm

just as an aside I was surprised the other day to come across two Dublin Bus 'deckers on the M25 north of London...possibly heading for ensignbus would you think?

Blue Punto · 26-10-2009 1:10pm

yeah alot of them end up in the uk and the funny thing is ,2 or 3 have then been re-imported back into the country by operators here

darrenc4706 · 21-11-2009 7:04pm

Hi is that a bombardier at the very end in learner livery?

also, where did you take the pics of the dub buses and bus eirean kds?

do you still have photo of bus from quays accident as its not on?

Blue Punto · 21-11-2009 10:53pm

darrenc4706 wrote: »

Hi is that a bombardier at the very end in learner livery?

also, where did you take the pics of the dub buses and bus eirean kds?

do you still have photo of bus from quays accident as its not on?

No its not a bombardier just a trick of the light if you look closely you will see its the same as the rest

The KD's are in Broadstone

And I do have a pic of the bus from the accident but I decided against leaving it on the board incase it offended anyone

macroman · 23-11-2009 12:22am

The KR's up the bank in Broadstone are subject to a court case with Kells Transport Museum. See Here. Bus Eireann would rather scrap them then sell them to KTM (and other preservationalists like myself).

Gary ITR · 23-11-2009 12:25am

macroman wrote: »

The KR's up the bank in Broadstone are subject to a court case with Kells Transport Museum. See Here. Bus Eireann would rather scrap them then sell them to KTM (and other preservationalists like myself).

That's bananas

macroman · 23-11-2009 12:30am

Onkle wrote: »

That's bananas

Especially since they're the last buses to be built by CIÉ (CIÉ had to finish the last batch of KR's as GAC staff downed tools), they're the last buses to be built in the Republic, and they're the last purpose built buses for CIÉ. There's only one in preservation so far

Gary ITR · 23-11-2009 12:41am

Would they have been built in Spa Road?

macroman · 23-11-2009 12:48am

Onkle wrote: »

Would they have been built in Spa Road?

Built in Shannon in an old Piano factory. Politics put an end to it all unfortunately.

tinofapples · 23-11-2009 10:10pm

Out of curiosity, what kind of money would these retired buses make ?

VolvoMan · 24-11-2009 12:57am

tinofapples wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what kind of money would these retired buses make ?

It was stated that in the last batch they went for around 40k each a few posts back.

overdriver · 24-11-2009 9:13am

A mate of mine on the BL classics forum bought 4 buses in the UK fairly cheaply.

Two of them, Nationals were subsequently scrapped, but he bought them, brim full of diesel, for 50 quid STG each.

Dublin Bus

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