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Hate the English??

newmills · 2009-09-27 08:13:05

Do the irish people really still hate the english or is it only on sporting occasions that the wrongs of the past come to the surface. I only ask cause one of the lads in work (he's a dub) was always giving out about the "fcukin english" - bit strange i thought as he sat there talking about how much he detested the english…

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#992 12-10-2009 05:22PM

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Its the HM & union flags I have an issue with.

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#993 12-10-2009 05:25PM

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The Irish maket is very small, its hardly worth re-tooling for.

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#994 12-10-2009 05:43PM

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ch750536 wrote: »

Its the HM & union flags I have an issue with.

Smyths are a commercial organisation. if people aren't buying them, they wouldn't sell them.

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#995 12-10-2009 05:58PM

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ch750536 wrote: »

Its the HM & union flags I have an issue with.

Why?

If it was G.I. Joe figures with a United States flag, would you have an issue with them?

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#996 12-10-2009 06:00PM

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Fratton Fred wrote: »

Smyths are a commercial organisation. if people aren't buying them, they wouldn't sell them.

What annoys me about Smyths is that I made a special trip to pick up a kid's SS play-suit for little Gunther, and the feckers were out of stock.:eek:

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#997 12-10-2009 06:02PM

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It`s basically just an Action Man, the kind kids the world over play with. If you object, I recommend you don`t buy one. My mother once complained that they were `antomically incorrect` (ie, not much of an Action Man).
Just when you think this thread is dead, back it comes, to continue going nowhere.

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#998 12-10-2009 06:15PM

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Just wondering if anyone has seen lron Maiden live anytime they played in lreland?

They usually wave the old union jack around quite a bit on stage.

Did they produce it in Dublin or Belfast and if they did what was the crowds reaction?

Genuine question, not trying to stir anything up one way or the other.

Just curious is all.....

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#999 12-10-2009 06:18PM

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Maiden and the flag thread

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#1000 12-10-2009 06:29PM

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Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I dont like or dislike the English anymore than other nations. However I do hate the fact that some Irish people will "hate the English" on a Friday night and then celebrate United or Liverpool winning on the Saturday afternoon, but thats a different topic altogether.

Hopefully it'll be the latter winning Saturday afternoon.
I'm hoping that was okay to say!

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#1001 12-10-2009 06:54PM

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ch750536 wrote: »

Its the HM & union flags I have an issue with.

What flag do you expect the Royal Marines to use, the flag of Mongolia for example. :rolleyes:

Reminds me of

Mrs. Richards: When I pay for a view I expect to see something more interesting than that.
Basil: That is Torquay, Madam.
Mrs Richards: Well, it's not good enough.
Basil: Well, may I ask what you were hoping to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom-window? Sidney Opera House perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest? sweeping majestically?
Mrs Richards: Don't be silly. I expect to be able to see the sea.
Basil: You can see the sea. It's over there between the land and the sky.
Mrs Richards: You call that a view?
Basil Fawlty: Well perhaps you should consider moving to a hotel closer to the sea, preferably in it.

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#1002 12-10-2009 08:28PM

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chopperbyrne wrote: »

Why?

If it was G.I. Joe figures with a United States flag, would you have an issue with them?

Is GI Joe occuping a part of our country in the service of the United States as symbolised by its flag? No.

Is GI Joe and the other advocates of that US flag from the same society that has subjugated the Irish people for centuries? No.

Cop on.

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#1003 12-10-2009 08:31PM

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Is GI Joe occuping a part of our country in the service of the United States as symbolised by its flag? No.

They're pretty much everywhere else, but not here, true enough.

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#1004 12-10-2009 08:32PM

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Indeed, Ireland is working for GI Joe.

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#1005 12-10-2009 08:40PM

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mike65 wrote: »

Indeed, Ireland is working for GI Joe.

You're very quick there, Mike. It took you how many years of US multinationals to discover that all on your own?

When the US military evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries, and imposes a sectarian herrenvolk régime from the United States upon us, you will have an analogy.

In the meantime, kindly desist from talking sh!te. Thank you.

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#1006 12-10-2009 08:45PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

You're very quick there, Mike. It took you how many years of US multinationals to discover that all on your own?

When the US military evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries, and imposes a sectarian herrenvolk régime from the United States upon us, you will have an analogy.

In the meantime, kindly desist from talking sh!te. Thank you.

Why would the US want to do such a thing? Is this something to do with "The Field"?

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#1007 12-10-2009 08:47PM

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ejmaztec wrote: »

Why would the US want to do such a thing? Is this something to do with "The Field"?

At least try and keep up with all three posts, Ejmaztec. Come on, really, it can't be that hard to get a context. Even for you.

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#1008 12-10-2009 08:47PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

You're very quick there, Mike. It took you how many years of US multinationals to discover that all on your own?

When the US military evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries, and imposes a sectarian herrenvolk régime from the United States upon us, you will have an analogy.

In the meantime, kindly desist from talking sh!te. Thank you.

I for one welcome that day, but the big question is...

Does Wal-mart sell Green Isle chips?

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#1009 12-10-2009 08:51PM

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PirateShampoo wrote: »

I for one welcome that day, but the big question is...

Does Wal-mart sell Green Isle chips?

I'm sure you could check your local ASDA, that "British" supermarket, to find the answer to that.

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#1010 12-10-2009 08:52PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

At least try and keep up with all three posts, Ejmaztec. Come on, really, it can't be that hard to get a context. Even for you.

Never mind that, but how did you manage to upset the Americans?

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#1011 12-10-2009 08:54PM

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ejmaztec wrote: »

Never mind that, but how did you manage to upset the Americans?

Just take a nap there, Ejmaztec.

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#1012 12-10-2009 08:57PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

I'm sure you could check your local ASDA, that "British" American supermarket owned by Wal-Mart, to find the answer to that.

Rebelheart wrote: »

Just take a nap there, Ejmaztec.

During my nap, I fixed your previous post.

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#1013 12-10-2009 09:02PM

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ejmaztec wrote: »

During my nap, I fixed your previous post.

Good, Ejmaztec: you understand sarcasm. Well done. Then again, maybe you didn't which is why you spelt out what I implied. Scary.

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#1014 12-10-2009 09:06PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

When the US military evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries, and imposes a sectarian herrenvolk régime from the United States upon us, you will have an analogy. .

Sh!t, the british did that to you and your family? When?

I'd seriously consider writing a strongly worded letter to the Queen and have her look into it immediately before it happens someone else.

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#1015 12-10-2009 09:08PM

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I welcome having to learn American.

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#1016 12-10-2009 09:14PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

Is GI Joe occuping a part of our country in the service of the United States as symbolised by its flag? No.

Is GI Joe and the other advocates of that US flag from the same society that has subjugated the Irish people for centuries? No.

Cop on.

HM Royal Marines are not occupying part of our country either.

Said subjugation ended almost a century ago. Should we all hate every German because of World War II?

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#1017 12-10-2009 09:15PM

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......evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries......

jesus, you hold a grudge don't you! :eek:

just in case you hadn't noticed, we're a republic again!
have been for ages!
hurrah!
its eating you up man, let it go!

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#1018 12-10-2009 09:38PM

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chopperbyrne wrote: »

HM Royal Marines are not occupying part of our country either.

Said subjugation ended almost a century ago. Should we all hate every German because of World War II?

And this is where, for reasons best know to yourself, you are wrong. I happen to live in Ireland, where part of this country remains under British occupation in 2009, just as all of the country was prior to 6 December 1922. This is easily verifiable.

As for your reference to Germany, if I'm not mistaken - and I'm not - the good Mrs Thatcher said virtually the same to Cardinal Tomás Ó Fiach in 1981 during the second Hunger Strike:
Thatcher: "How come after 50 years the Germans and the British can get on together but the British and Irish can't?"

Ó Fiaich: "Well, the British don't occupy the Ruhr, do they?"

(See Éamonn Maille & Patrick Bishop, Provisional IRA, for full quote)

This is so obvious that the real question is why you, like Augusto Pinochet's and Suharto's friend, decidedly fail to see the distinction.

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#1019 12-10-2009 09:42PM

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furiousox wrote: »

......evicts my family, beats the living sh!te of my family and keeps us faoi chois for centuries, rams their language, laws and customs down our throat, excludes us from all power in our own country for centuries......

jesus, you hold a grudge don't you! :eek:

just in case you hadn't noticed, we're a republic again!
have been for ages!
hurrah!
its eating you up man, let it go!

And the "we" is? I'm not in the habit of abandoning people to save my own skin. To revise everything and write at least 700,000 Irish people - arguably the most Irish of us all in historical terms (but shhhh) - out of Ireland and Irishness in the process of saving my own skin is unconscionable. Work away, though.

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#1020 12-10-2009 09:44PM

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Rebelheart wrote: »

"Well, the British don't occupy the Ruhr, do they?"

They certainly did still occupy part of Germany then.

...anyway to get back on topic...

If you stick an Irish flag on those toys then they cannot sell half of the range anyway, especially this and this and most likely this.

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#1021 12-10-2009 09:49PM

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occupation

oc⋅cu⋅pa⋅tion [ok-yuh-pey-shuhn]

1. a person's usual or principal work or business, esp. as a means of earning a living; vocation: Her occupation was dentistry.
2. any activity in which a person is engaged.
3. possession, settlement, or use of land or property.
4. the act of occupying.
5. the state of being occupied.
6. the seizure and control of an area by military forces, esp. foreign territory.
7. the term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Danish resistance during the German occupation.
8. tenure or the holding of an office or official function: during his occupation of the vice presidency.

So you're saying that English are controlling Northern Ireland by military force?

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