Garda Allowances

bringingitall wrote: »

BASIC
+ shift allowance
+ rent allowance tax free(€4,160)
+ uniform allowance
+ boot allowance
+ away from station for the day allowance(airport passport guys + other moving prisoners from x to y)
+ overtime(easily availible, perhaps reduced now)
+ handy days standing around croke park (€200euro from what i'm told)
+ scheduling a ten minute court appearance on your day off knowing that you'll get paid for the minimum 5hours you get under union agreements that state you must be paid this minimum time regardless of your actual time worked(been told first hand about this)
+Garda credit union(cheap loans how many apartments have you rented from Garda i've been in 3 apartments all owned by garda in the last 5 years, 3 friends have garda landlords)
+health insurance for you and married partner
+ if put on clerical duty(9-5) an allowance to compensate you for the allowances your missing by not working unsocial hours
+ while on holiday pay an allowance to cover the overtime/allowance you could have potentiallly got if you weren't on the beach basically unsocial hours work allowance even though your not in
+ plain clothes allowance, if your plain clothes garda to buy your own clothes
+Gaeltacht Allowance and Aran Island Allowance
+ retire @ 50 with full pension(lump sum+payments)

I don't know about you but that's still not enough to entice me to want to be a guard. If you think that's too much to give people that risk their lives and sanity policing this lunatic state then you do it for less.

I heard they get more pay for working anti-social behaviour peak hours. That's a joke. Extra pay for when the public actually NEED them around.

bringingitall wrote: »

thank god you have a job

I not a Garda, however, this type of tripe is being throw at most public servants. I spent five years studying hard to enter my job, and top of that I'm required to be a member of professions bodies at my own cost. I also now have to pay for my ongoing CPD myself and do it on my own time. Ongoing CPD is a requirement of my job. A lot of Garda do not enter after their LC alot now get a BA first, though it is not required.

I make no apologies for having a job, for years I was hearing "what you don't get x-mas bonus" or bonuses for this or that you must be mad".

I have seen alot of my colleagus leave the public service to work in the private sector for 50-100% more money. I was laughed at for staying in my position, when there was more money to be made elsewhere. I held my position like a lot of other state employees did including alot of Garda.

As I said I am required to keep up my skills, however, now with a pension levey I had to take on extra work as a lecturer, but cannot afford to study to keep up my skills.

Also with saying that I do not have a job for life, in this climate things can change quite quickly. As a health care professional I work hard, I work as a psychotherapist, and part of my work used to involve dealing with other health care workers who had been attacked whilst on duty. This can have very severe consequences for the individuals in question. [This was a vlountary service which fell folw of cut-backs] So I would have some idea of the impact of a serious assault on a Garda member.

Whilst our police force are paid to deal to difficult cases they are not paid to be battered, and develop various psych issues anxiety disorders, PTSD etc.

I listen to peoples stories everyday, the ones that involve serious ongoing abuse as a child or even an adult in cases of domestic violence. This will have an inpact on your mental health if you don't look after yourself, and tbh what I experience above and the violence I encounter is nothing compared to what the Garda have to deal with, and from what I know the support they get is minimal.

Like most people who are working I have taken a cut in wages due to levies I'm down about 300e a month and people want me to apologise for having a job, but yet when their family members needs my professional help, I expected to be at the top of my game and supply the best service possible, which I do try to do inanyway. However, the old saying is true if you pay peanuts you will get monkeys. Personally I expect a top quality service from the Garda, and paying an apporpriate wages is the only way of getting that.


So do they get paid too much not in my opinion.

Slightly off topic as I have nothing against the perks that Gardai may get.. some deserve/earn this wage/perks, others dont. same as any field.
Lil anecdote though-I work in a tourist attraction where I was approached by a member of the Gardai the other day who flashed me his I.D. card and said 'anythin you can do for me??' alluding to free admission or a discount.
Now, im sorry, but what the hell has a tour of where i work got to do with his job and why should he get anything other than what is offered to the general public? Really pissed me off to think that he should get a freebie, especially in the brazen way he asked (im all for chancing your arm, but cmon!)
my colleagues reply? 'If you stopped me on the side of the road and I had no insurance, would there be ''anything you could do'' for me? No? Didnt think so, Thatll be 10euro please.

bringingitall wrote: »

just remember an allowance for missing an allowance how fu*ked up is that

OK OP - you got me :rolleyes:.

Of the dozen or so "Irish Daily Mail" type headlines you made in your first post, this one is actually true. Yep, the gardai get €9m a year (about €600 on average) premium allowance. Looks like this is the sole cause of the current financial problems we are experiencing so lets scrap it and get this country back in the black again.

bringingitall wrote: »

i studied for 5 years and got a masters in finance .......

:eek:. I'd be really embarrassed now if I were you i.e. you stated

bringingitall wrote: »

FACT:

Garda pay and allowances bill has reached €904 million a year compared with €530 million in 2001.

and

bringingitall wrote: »

well the new 2000 guys must be on about 200,000euro

Now, I only did accounting in secondary school and have no other qualification in the financial area but I do seem to recall something called inflation. Your figures for this FACT cover 2001 to 2008, I assume? Thats 7 years. I have no idea what the total inflation over that period was but I'd take a rough guess at 4% p.a. - some years were much higher IIRC.

Using my secondary school formula of A=P(1 + r/100)n, I think this comes to an increase of about one third over that period. Also including the 15% approx increase in numbers over the same period, I think you will find that most of the increase is accounted for. But I suppose Gardai are not entitled to any cost of living increase either :rolleyes:

Oh yes, don't forget BENCHMARKING. Lower ranks got a huge increase of 5%. Probably paid for all those houses in Bulgaria.

I don't mean to question you intelligence, OP, but I suggest you seriously consider getting a refund on any fees that you have paid to third level institutions for your Financial qualifications

bringingitall wrote: »

by bad career choice you mean not choosing to work in guards. I.ll say it again there is hundreds of people lining up to be stabbed, spat at, abused, shot at, killed look at the recruitment forum here .135 pages of people looking do it. Its the last great escape for the idiot son now that priesthood has lost its glow

No not at all, by bad career choice I mean one that appears to pay what was it you said 26k at masters level. I have been away for a few hours but that was your point wasn't it? That post grads where starting on less than the 31k. Did priests not have to study for 5 years?

podge3 wrote: »

I didn't realise that Gardai were called to deal with people getting sick in a taxi? Must be a new thing in Dublin.....

yup 2 years ago