The SF3 v SF4 thread

Well sf4 characters are more bulky and slow, the game is not as fast paced as 3S as animaX mentioned.
Third strike can get very fast paced, just add in a very good ibuki player.

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Well better is down to opinion, but personally I'd deffo like it if dashing and movement was closer to 3s then it is now for the next SF. Why, would you be one of those that would rather dash was removed?

I was referring to overall game speed as opposed to any mechanics within the game to move faster chap. Since I thought that was what Placebo and AnimaX were getting at.

Howdy!

What I like about 3 n IV.

3S-
In 3S there wasn't much distance play i.e. Throwing FB's. 3S it's all up close and some what personal imo, and because its all up close there's always tech going on, (Parrys, throwing etc.)
I like the Parry system yea, But at times when a person tries it It prob wont work (unless you spent hours upon hours of time in parry training) if the parry is missed it will prob will lead to an ass whoppin and no one likes an ass whoppin. BUT if that parry hits, its your opponent time for a whoppin. Which I always enjoy

The supers in 3S I love, but not the the way there gained or used.
To gain a super, jus hold of your opponent and medium punch, or kick to get your meter up. (Which is complete bull s**t imo) The meter should be gained from kickin the crap outta the other guy, not backing off, gettin a super then jumping back in.
The way the super is used, is quite crap, because im sure everyone has noticed that the majority of suppers used in 3S are done usually after a CR. medium kick, Yea sure ya can parry the medium kick with ease (somtimes) but if your not playing against a person who knows they hit a CR. Medium kick, they will still lead off and do the supper compleatly wasting it... The person will prob back off not knowing what to do, trying to get another super bar with out attacking and jus repeat the process.

The characters im grand with, I only use Yun (who is kinda broken) but still he's still fun (EY.EY.EY etc..etc..):p

SFIV-
Right... well first thing I have to say is yea its slowed down, cant dash as fast, but at least ya still can.. You just have to learn how to use it to your advantage.
As an Example. (I use Akuma, When a person tries to jump in on me, I dash back and UL.Demon) Using it to my advantage, just has to be timed.
In IV there's more of a distant game been played when shoto's are picked, and we all know the majority of players are shoto's.
I don't mind a distant game really, it gives time to think, and the fireballs will hopefully work to your favor to make your opponent to make an error, which are easily acted on.
The Focus system I love more than parrying, simply because its easier, and can be frequently used to your advantage. Such as it will force your opponent to jump etc. Plus the focus can be used for a quick and reliable dash. Most times when I focus to dash the opponent will try knock me outta it, they usually panic to get close to me or outta my range, I simply dash out link into a combo, or a simple grab, and what's best they dont expect it.. (Sometimes)...
The supers in this game, are better imo because people are using there smarts to hit them, Such as Abel who covers what 40% of the the screen when his ultra is done... Thats amazin range to get a ultra in if the person made a mistake. The supers can be linked in too which I love, such as Chun's with those legs of hers, if she hits that in the corner, she can easily link into her ultra which most likely will hit.
A few Characters can link super to ultra. I.e. Gen, Ryu.
Not many people have seen ryu done it but i'll try expalin it best I can... (Ryu: 2 hit medium Punch, Medium or light Srk, to Super, then time it Right, ULTRA!.. Give or take one or two hits, its a pretty cool combo..)
Hmmmm, Im sure im missing out on tons here, but thats what I think of either game.. lol
Im not gona even talk about Sagat n Seth, Capcom said for themselves, there a tad overpowerd! ) a tad my arse...
Not gona talk about tiers in IV either... the Tier list's are constantly changed.

Gday

You'd be best... "acquiring" the ROMs for PC emulators.

This is actually the closest you'll get to experiencing the real game, because:

• The PS2 version was never released in Europe.
• The Xbox version is terrible on the 360.
• We have no arcades in Ireland.
  AND
• Even if we did have an arcade machine with 3S, it would either be banged-up with crap controls/screen, or the ROM would be so poorly looked-after that it would suffer the dreaded CPS3-death (when the back-up battery died, it would take the whole cart with it)

Placebo wrote: »

I think i need to revisit this thread.
Playing SF III properly with real competition [ramza] last night after a long absence of around 3 years, has made me realise how bad SF III actually is.
Perhaps its the lack of practice or maybe the levelness of SF4 has totally put me of SF III for good.
The System comes across ridiculous broken, priorities on moves are silly. Even some hit box's seem off. It closely resembled mugen to me last night and its a sad case to even say that as i was a huge huge SFIII fan, i think SF4 has raised the bar and in comparison SF III looks like a broken joke. The parry system is just come across awful with the damage some characters can inflict.

However saying that, SF III is around 1O years old at this stage so it is not a fair comparison but either way good bye SF3, you wreck my head.

Myself and Trev were having this very discussion yesterday evening. We were saying that, although we absolutely love SFIII, it is almost impossible to play these days. The main reason for us being, that the sprites are very irritating for our old eyes! As much as I miss Hugo, Alex Urien, the backdrops and the amazing animation, I'm in no rush to ever play it again.

As for the game mechanics.....Placebo, Dreddy and Ramza have all battered me, so yes, this game is majorly busted. Sucks, in fact....

I'm also in the camp of "Ramza's whoring of high-priority normals has made me realise how horrid this game can be."

Super Balance Fighter IV: The Fireballs!! is now my favourite Street Fighter to play.

Even if it's kinda crap

i meant an ex girlfriend lol but i think either meaning works here !

Placebo wrote: »

i meant an ex girlfriend lol but i think either meaning works here !

Best misunderstanding ever!!

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I'm also in the camp of "Ramza's whoring of high-priority normals has made me realise how horrid this game can be."

Yeah, i'm in that boat too. Playing someone who really knows the game inside out (Ramza, Tin, etc) makes it look horribly inaccessible. Better to play it with people who still get a rush of excitement from parrying a fullscreen fireball :cool:

animaX wrote: »

Yeah, i'm in that boat too. Playing someone who really knows the game inside out (Ramza, Tin, etc) makes it look horribly inaccessible. Better to play it with people who still get a rush of excitement from parrying a fullscreen fireball :cool:

I do pretty much okay against Ramza and I only picked the game up maybe 8 months ago in any kind of serious way. Getting battered by Tin at 3s is honestly the most fun I've ever had at a SF game as well.

Farz that's a fair enough opinion, I don't understand what you're saying about the hitboxes though... the ones in SF4 are far more ****ed imo!

I'll give examples RIGHT NOW:

Chun's st.Fierce, back Fierce.
Urien's st.Strong.
:mad: