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Attitudes to Porn... Mod Warning Post 719

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  • #92
    bealbocht
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭bealbocht


    I suppose it would be fair to say, that the problem with porn, is that it is made by "porngraphers", and has a tendancy to be vulgar. Also over the years, and with the money involved, has progressed in some extream directions, and tends to be focused more on "genitals" rather than individuals.

    The French make some good stuff, when you can find it, other stuff is good too, depending on what I'm the mood for.

    I do think though, that all possible efforts should be made in terms of restricting availabilty to minors. (I was quite committed to the cause of finding it when I was a teenagers myself,) but I also think this could apply to magazines for younger girl teens.

    Sooo.. after thinking on the matter for a bit, I do not think porn should be underestimated, perhaps it is a bit like fire. Most towns and cities do not burn down over night, but it is not wise to let idiots/nutjobs to do what they want with it. (could probably work on that a bit.)

    On another note, if you have not seen porn that concentrates on the female orgasm... you should check out "squirting", Probably not what you had in mind, but .... does what is says on the tin. If they are faking that, it is the best CGI I have ever seen. (also, makes shooting one over my shoulder seem a bit lame..)


  • #93
    Kimia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    No offense, but 'squirting' sounds like one of the most unsexy things ever. Had to add a *shudder* in there..


  • #94
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Kimia wrote: »
    It's like what Shelly (I think) said - it's like a guy watching a bad bj, you cringe inside coz it looks SO unenjoyable. And then your mind boggles that men think that you would enjoy it! Although in fairness any man worth his salt knows that it's all fake too.
    I hear what your saying here and it cant always be comfortable for the cast if they have a crew of 3 ,4 or more looking on .But when a guy ejaculates from a blow job it can be very hard imo ....to fake it, specialy in a role play situation ,like your pleasure zone has being activated as it's ment to right ?


  • #95
    Kimia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    Latchy wrote: »
    I hear what your saying here and it cant always be comfortable for the cast if they have a crew of 3 ,4 or more looking on .But when a guy ejaculates from a blow job it can be very hard imo ....to fake it, specialy in a role play situation ,like your pleasure zone has being activated as it's ment to right ?

    Yea I suppose although I don't really know what point you're trying to make? :) I get what you're saying - that men can't fake it - but women can and do and furthermore they really LOOK like they're faking, which is what is the turn off for me.


  • #96
    Dr_H_Lecter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Dr_H_Lecter


    porn addictive me erse. just clear the pipe and be done. thanks v much ladies, close tab. how anyone pays for it i dont know.


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  • #97
    shellyboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Kimia wrote: »
    No offense, but 'squirting' sounds like one of the most unsexy things ever. Had to add a *shudder* in there..


    Um, I know you said no offence, but that's pretty offensive to women who do squirt... it's not disgusting unsexy, it's perfectly natural for some women.


    Squirting porn, however - it's not all real. And even if the are squirting for real, it still tends to be overexaggerated. I want to see a proper O face, flushed cheeks, red chest, out of control, proper orgasm. Not calculated moaning and talking dirty.


  • #98
    Kimia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    Sorry should have been more specific - seeing someone squirt would be very unsexy for me to watch.


  • #99
    The End Of Days
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭The End Of Days


    Chemical dependency aside all other addictions are down to genetics. Porn can be addictive to some people as much as Orange juice can be. OCD and yer wahot nohot.


  • #100
    bealbocht
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭bealbocht


    Kimia wrote: »
    No offense, but 'squirting' sounds like one of the most unsexy things ever. Had to add a *shudder* in there..


    Thank you Kimia, but I dont make the movies, I did not coin the phrase, and I am not interested (although I am now aware) of your opinion on the matter.

    But in relation to porn focusing on the female orgasm and I quote myself
    "probably not what you had in mind, but does what is says on the tin"

    And if you are not familiar with it, it is NOT pee.


  • #101
    The End Of Days
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭The End Of Days


    /Note: read full thread :(


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  • #102
    The End Of Days
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭The End Of Days


    bealbocht wrote: »
    Thank you Kimia, but I dont make the movies, I did not coin the phrase, and I am not interested (although I am now aware) of your opinion on the matter.

    But in relation to porn focusing on the female orgasm and I quote myself
    "probably not what you had in mind, but does what is says on the tin"

    And if you are not familiar with it, it is NOT pee.

    Modern porn at the moment is very abusive towards women, they are probably faking it rather than be fishooked or slapped about the head by teh c0ck.


  • #103
    Kimia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    bealbocht wrote: »
    Thank you Kimia, but I dont make the movies, I did not coin the phrase, and I am not interested (although I am now aware) of your opinion on the matter.

    But in relation to porn focusing on the female orgasm and I quote myself
    "probably not what you had in mind, but does what is says on the tin"

    And if you are not familiar with it, it is NOT pee.

    Alright Bealbocht - I'm sorry if I offended you with my opinion but that's what this thread is about - women's attitude to porn! I just wouldn't find it arousing to look at it! Sheesh! I also am very well aware that's it not pee.

    What does the above quote mean - does what it says on the tin? Do you mean that men want to see a female orgasm in porn so that's why they're exaggerated?


  • #104
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Kimia wrote: »
    Yea I suppose although I don't really know what point you're trying to make? :) I get what you're saying - that men can't fake it - but women can and do and furthermore they really LOOK like they're faking, which is what is the turn off for me.
    I am sure lots of guys who act in porn films fake it ,like if they are not in the mood then they just go through the motions ie, just another job , just as women do which must say something about both genders sexual make up .:)


    shellyboo wrote: »
    I want to see a proper O face, flushed cheeks, red chest, out of control, proper orgasm. .
    That discription fits into a lot of 70s /80s porn when the actors /actress's were not made to look and dress up like Hollywood superstars ( although that has it's own seperate appeal to some ) . There is plenty of that ( reality type porn ) still avaiilable out there .French , German and Scandinavian porn have some classics that never loose their appeal


  • #105
    994
    Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    sar84 wrote: »
    i have no problem with a bf watching it, unless it got to a point where hed prefer to watch porn instead of be with me.

    it does seem to give some men unrealistic expectations and ideas though - "but they always do it in porn!" - eh yes im not a pornstar.
    Men have the same views regarding romantic comedies ;)


  • #106
    shellyboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Latchy wrote: »
    I am sure lots of guys who act in porn films fake it ,like if they are not in the mood then they just go through the motions ie, just another job , just as women do which must say something about both genders sexual make up .:)

    That's why the money shot is called the money shot, surely... takes time and effort to get it, and they have to get it right on the first or second go. While a woman can fake orgasms til they come out of their ears, a man can only ejaculate for real, and only a certain amount of times in a certain period. That's why there's such a focus on it, that shot is so difficult and precious!


  • #107
    ztoical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    shellyboo wrote: »
    That's why there's such a focus on it, that shot is so difficult and precious!

    Actually it's not - they use fake man juice for alot ofthe money shots as [a] the real stuff doesn't show up that well on camera and as mentioned a guy can only perform so many times in a given time. The men are just as fake as the ladies :)


  • #108
    Maddison
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    Ok....I wasnt going to admit it but here goes....I did get a bit addicted to teh porn....and would go to bed early just to watch it....by the time the OH got to bed I was too tired:o


  • #109
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    ztoical wrote: »
    Actually it's not - they use fake man juice for alot ofthe money shots as [a] the real stuff doesn't show up that well on camera and as mentioned a guy can only perform so many times in a given time. The men are just as fake as the ladies :)

    How does fake stuff work? How can they make it look like it's actually being ejaculated?


  • #110
    Otis Driftwood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Kimia wrote: »
    I totally 100% agree with Hippie Chick - that's what I hate about it too! And Ned I think what she means (what I took it to mean as a woman) is that it looks so FAKE that we just can't in all honesty believe that the woman is enjoying it because if it were me that's not how I am or act when I enjoy sex. I mean come on - who yells YES F*CK ME NOW BAD BOY or whatever at the top of their lungs when they come?? (No offense to those who do!)

    I agree 101%,the vast majority of it is put on but what I was saying is that many porn stars have and do orgasm during the scenes.It just happens to be vastly excentuated.HC basically stated categorically that this doesnt happen.

    As for the screaming at the top of their lungs,as a bloke,I find that rather off putting,in porn and in real life.:pac:
    Maddison wrote: »
    Ok....I wasnt going to admit it but here goes....I did get a bit addicted to teh porn....and would go to bed early just to watch it....by the time the OH got to bed I was too tired:o

    Bah ha ha ha ha.:pac:


  • #111
    Otis Driftwood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Faith wrote: »
    How does fake stuff work? How can they make it look like it's actually being ejaculated?
    Stunt cock.

    That aint a joke either.


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  • #112
    bealbocht
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭bealbocht


    Kimia wrote: »
    Alright Bealbocht - I'm sorry if I offended you with my opinion but that's what this thread is about - women's attitude to porn! I just wouldn't find it arousing to look at it! Sheesh! I also am very well aware that's it not pee.

    What does the above quote mean - does what it says on the tin? Do you mean that men want to see a female orgasm in porn so that's why they're exaggerated?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Does_exactly_what_it_says_on_the_tin

    sheesh yourself...


  • #113
    SeekUp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    Maddison wrote: »
    Ok....I wasnt going to admit it but here goes....I did get a bit addicted to teh porn....and would go to bed early just to watch it....by the time the OH got to bed I was too tired:o

    Do you still? Or have you scaled back a bit?


  • #114
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    shellyboo wrote: »
    That's why the money shot is called the money shot, surely... takes time and effort to get it, and they have to get it right on the first or second go. While a woman can fake orgasms til they come out of their ears, a man can only ejaculate for real, and only a certain amount of times in a certain period. That's why there's such a focus on it, that shot is so difficult and precious!
    yea but Hard core porn is were the real cum shots are , 5 guys shoooting in a girls face aint fake but if the guys faces are hidden (which they usually are ) then they are going enjoy it more I would imagine .


  • #115
    ztoical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    Stunt cock.

    That aint a joke either.

    thats actually one of the ways also just the angle the scene is shot at, they shoot over the shoulder or some other angle where the focus is what the fake semen is lading on rather then were it is coming from. They also reuse footage so you might see the same close up money shot by an actor turn up in a couple of their films.


  • #116
    ztoical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    Latchy wrote: »
    yea but Hard core porn is were the real cum shots are , 5 guys shoooting in a girls face aint fake but if the guys faces are hidden (which they usually are ) then they are going enjoy it more I would imagine .

    Bukkake is a niche area of porn, it's more of a fetish really and wouldn't be really consider hard core since no penetration occurs.


  • #117
    Maddison
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    SeekUp wrote: »
    Do you still? Or have you scaled back a bit?
    Oh no, now I come on to Boards & talk about it...I see it as therapy:D


  • #118
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Once a guy doesn't confuse porn with reality, once he doesn't become addicted, and once it doesn't start to become a substitute for sex with his partner, it's a-ok by me.


  • #119
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Dudess wrote: »
    Once a guy doesn't confuse porn with reality, once he doesn't become addicted, and once it doesn't start to become a substitute for sex with his partner, it's a-ok by me.

    ditto for a woman, I mean I am never gonna last 2.5 hours ever.:)


  • #120
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Maddison wrote: »
    Oh no, now I come on to Boards & talk about it...I see it as therapy:D
    And much cheaper than going to see a sex therapist :D


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  • #121
    d'Oracle
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    The End Of Days wrote: »
    Modern porn at the moment is very abusive towards women, they are probably faking it rather than be fishooked or slapped about the head by teh c0ck.

    That is an absolutely MASSIVE generalisation.
    You are taking on particular type (I suppose sub-genre) and saying all modern porn is that way.

    Seriously, modern porn is a hugely diverse.
    There are sites dedicated to actual couples making porn with all the emotion and reality, without the perceived trappings of Miami or the Valley.
    There is something for all tastes and its all relatively easily available.

    to some Ladies, its all well and good expressing your opinion about porn, but just remember, if you don't know what you are talking about, you can't form a credible opinion.


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