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Art History (HL)

  • 09-06-2009 12:58pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 35


    How're people feeling about the art history exam?
    Such a huge course.. Any tips on how to narrow things down, especially in the Irish and European sections?? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭degausserxo


    Iron Age, Bronze Age, Newgrange, Impressionism and Post-Impressionism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    SCREWED.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rhapsody!


    Already a topic on the same page :P
    but yeah also dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 NerdPantzz


    Its such a pity because ppl who do really well in their practicals can be brought down because the course is so braod!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rhapsody!


    I personally, hate art history. I have to get a B, and to maintain that B, I'll have to get an A in AH, and I cannot do that. We didn't cover nearly as much as we should have. I think I'm just going to do Picasso, Dali, Bronze Iron and Stone Age.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭arthistory


    absolutely dreading it!!! its just so much..and same day as biology...cruelty!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 NerdPantzz


    Bronze age was up last year tho I think.. Don't think Iron age was. I like newgrange but its been up the past few years.. My class covered way too much! one topic a week plus an essay each week for two years! :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    NerdPantzz wrote: »
    Its such a pity because ppl who do really well in their practicals can be brought down because the course is so braod!

    I just think it should be worth a lesser percentage 37.5 really is a lot! it's such a random number as well, it makes me feel uneasy! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    is la tene the bronze age, or the iron age, or whaaat?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 62 ✭✭SugoiHito


    Yeah,im thinking of studying La Tene cos i did for the mock and it came up...but will it in the real thing??:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rhapsody!


    is la tene the bronze age, or the iron age, or whaaat?
    Iron Age :)
    Used in the Petri Crown I think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭BLARG


    Know La Tene... did Newgrange come up last year? also know romanesque/gothic architecture. The course is so broad that it's likely most of us will have done different things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    BLARG wrote: »
    Know La Tene... did Newgrange come up last year?
    Yes. (Unfortunately. :( )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rhapsody!


    Yes. (Unfortunately. :( )
    Agreed. Newgrange is by far the easiests. Damn you 2008.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    rhapsody! wrote: »
    Agreed. Newgrange is by far the easiests. Damn you 2008.
    Haha, actually I did mine in 2008, and the Newgrange question, which I was planning on doing, was horrible (for me, we hadn't covered the b) part...).


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭BLARG


    They should really do something with the art course. Aka, cut half of it out, and commission someone to make a proper book, and teach art teachers not to be such dry ****es.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭batbaby


    BLARG wrote: »
    They should really do something with the art course. Aka, cut half of it out, and commission someone to make a proper book, and teach art teachers not to be such dry ****es.

    :pac::pac:I know what you mean....
    In the Irish Section, just do pre-christian Ireland. At least one question comes up from it every year....
    In European, focus on either Romanesque + Gothic, or Impressionism + Post-Impression. I recommend R+G, it's very repetitive!

    That any help??;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭jefreywithonef


    Jeez I'm pretty screwed for Section III, haven't really done any of those questions since 5th year.

    Banking on either Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Monet, Manet, Dali or Picasso to come up on section II.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rhapsody!


    Section three is alright and can be made up on the spot.
    I'm banking on Dali..
    Thinking I'm taking a risk?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    NerdPantzz wrote: »
    How're people feeling about the art history exam?
    Such a huge course.. Any tips on how to narrow things down, especially in the Irish and European sections?? :confused:

    Huge course? All I've learned is crosses and manuscripts. I know some artists out of general personal interest anyway, and the third question requires no study.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Casok


    I have Iron age (Ardagh and tara brooch) georgian architecture and book of kells 4 part one

    Leanardo/Michelangelo + Monet/Renoir

    Art Gallery ..

    Boom .. I hope :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Thinking of studying High Crosses(yeah I know everyone hates them, but they're due to come up) and la tene for Irish. Then Dali, Monet + Manet and Michelangelo for European.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 george.


    i've learnt iron age, bronze age
    uccello & botticelli
    art exhibition

    im screwed if something from these doesn't come up, i think ill be doing the list question... :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭degausserxo


    Oh, also, Francis Bacon and/or J. B. Yeats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 NerdPantzz


    Casok wrote: »
    I have Iron age (Ardagh and tara brooch) georgian architecture and book of kells 4 part one

    Leanardo/Michelangelo + Monet/Renoir

    Art Gallery ..

    Boom .. I hope :P
    ehh.. as far as I knoe The ardagh chalice and tara broach do not come under the iron age! Iron age is pre-christian, as in the broighter color, the petri crown, the loughnshade trumpet... The ardagh chalice and tara broach date a bit later and are considdered metalwork.. I think!! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 shelshel


    iron Age!!! i hope... but they cud throw sum bronze age/ crosses/ christian metalwork into the iron age essay; theve started doin stuff like that...:eek:

    D exhibition question better come up!!! ive a perfect essay... its way eaiser than making up answers for the other questions..:D

    rom/gothic arch comes up a lot... its horrrible though...
    Renaissance all the way..

    Art would be an amazing subject except for the art history.....:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    dunno if this will help anyone, i was trying to figure out what to study so just picked the questions i liked of each year

    i ended up choosing - crosses, 3 bronze age 3 iron age artefacts
    giotto & boticelli
    & a gallery visit q


    SECTION 1

    1996 - BRONZE AGE OBJECTS GOLD ACCOMPANYING SHEET
    1996 - Christianity effecting art
    1996 - Decoration of metalwork shrines

    2001 - NEWGRANGE
    2001 - PETRIE CROWN
    2001 - DEVELOPMENT OF STONE CROSSES
    2001 - DURER

    2002 - GOLD OBJECTSgold bulla, gorgets dress fasteners

    2003 - NEWGRANGE

    2004 - Newgrange
    2004 - La tene stonework& metalwork

    2005 - bronze objects
    2005 - development of stone crosses
    2005 - delelopment of metalwork

    2006 - newgrange

    2007 - la tene metalwok

    2008 - Newgrange
    2008 - Bronze age artefacts



    SECTION 2
    1996 - GIOTTO
    1996 - UCELLO

    2001 - BOTTICELLI (birth of Venus)
    2001 MICHELANGELO (sisteen chapel)
    2003 - 2 Sculptures by Michelangelo
    2003 - Botticelli - la primevera
    2004 - tribute money mosaccio
    2004 - leonardo & Rapael madonna & child
    2005 - last judgement leonardo

    2006 - GIOTTO
    2006 - boticelli
    2006 - jan van eyk arnolfini wedding

    2007 - rapael school of athens

    2008 - ucello


    SECTION 2 LIST

    FANTASY OR NIGHTMARE 1996
    PAINTING OF INTERIOR 1996
    ROYALTY OR ARISTOCRACY 1996
    1996 AN ALLEGORY OR MYTHOLOGICAL

    2001 FEATURING CHIARASCURO
    2001 Paintin in london or paris -
    2001 Paintin of baptism of christ, the flagellation/ the crowning with thorns
    2001 - still life group part of bigger group

    2002, 2003 - WATERand/or Reflections
    2002 - impressionist landscape
    2002- sfumato
    2002 - aristocracy

    2003 - battle / war
    2003 - equestrian

    2004 - mythological
    2004 chiaroscuro
    2004 - meal
    2004 - reclining figure
    2004 dance/ music
    2004 violence
    2004 forces of nature

    2005 - nativity scene
    2005- alterpiece
    2005- equestrian
    2005 0 people working on land
    2005 - still life

    2006 - single person
    2006 - depicting water
    2006 - sculpture by donatello

    2007 - musical instrument
    2007 renaissance building

    2008 equestrian
    2008 water


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭melissavm


    I'm basically planning on cramming it all in after french tomorrow.

    If it makes ye any less stressed, our art teacher gave us a sample A1 answer there about 2 weeks ago and it wasn't that incredible. Just lots of short, to the point sentences, personal opinion, and a few mediocre sketches. I think it's just important not to waffle on and waste time. I always find it hard to get the whole paper complete in the time given.

    Are people doing poster design or exhibition or what? What generally gets the highest marks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    I always feel like the book doesnt give enough info on anything.

    For example this year, I reckon, it's going to be La Tene. The less stress more success has about 2 pages on it with which I have to write an essay.

    And I'm screwed for the European Art, I'm doing Impressionism and Post-Impressionism but it's so vast and there's one small section on each artist in our book, again with which you're expected to write an essay on.

    And I always just end up waffling for the Appreciation question. :(:(:(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 46 heeereees-jonny


    I'm so screwed for this exam! the Pre's were a complete bastard and I'm def no better off now!
    I did go through all the past papers doh and tried to work out what would be coming up... so far I'm thinking:
    IRISH-
    Iron Age: metalwork and stonework
    Early Christian: Manuscript/ stone crosses/ metalwork

    EUROPEAN-
    Romanesque: Sculpture/ Architecture
    Gothic: Sculpture/ Stained Glass
    Giotto
    Pissano
    Ghiberti

    APPRECIATION-
    Museum/ Gallery visit

    Newgrange and Bronze Age came up last year, so I realli doubt they'll appear again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


    Just make sure you pick a "period" for sections 1 & 2 and stick with it.

    For example, for section 1, choose either pre-Christian (bronze/iron age) or Christian (manuscripts/metalwork/high crosses), and for section 2, maybe renaissance, gothic, academic or post-1850

    For example, I did mine a few years back and covered;

    Section 1 - Christian
    Metalwork - Tara Brooch, Ardagh Chalice, Derrynaflan (basic knowledge only), Cross of Cong, Crosier (basic again)
    Manuscripts - Cathach, Book of Durrow, Book of Kells
    High Crosses - the early examples, and then moved into Scriptural Cross, Muirideach's Cross.

    Section 2 - post-1850
    Impressionism - Monet (key artist), Manet, Renoir, Cezanne
    Cubism - Picasso (key), Bracques
    Surrealism - Dali (key), Miro, Magritte
    Then filled in the blanks with very basic knowledge of post-impressionism, fauvism, dada in case a "chronological development" question came up.

    Section 3 should be covered by preparing a gallery question.

    Try to be as flexible as possible when looking at what paintings to cover in the artists under section 2. If the questions relating the the period/artist doesn't suit you, try study paintings that might give you as much freedom as possible under the "a painting of...." style questions.

    For example, Picasso's Guernica will obviously suit a question related to cubism, to Picasso or to 20th century art, but can also be a fallback for "a paiting depicting...." war/conflict, people, animals, death, politics, monochrome etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭mikeglee


    SCREWED.


    HEAR HEAR:confused::confused::( I am dead! I never liked art and don't need it. I was just thinking of writing down really stupid answers and talking about other silly things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    If I did just la tene for section 1 would I be ok? hmmmm
    thinking of doing an impressionst artist, post impressionst artist and leonardo for section 2

    how much of a risk is this goys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    If I did just la tene for section 1 would I be ok? hmmmm
    thinking of doing an impressionst artist, post impressionst artist and leonardo for section 2

    how much of a risk is this goys?

    On our ExamCraft mock La Tene came up and so far they've been suspiciously accurate with their predictions. I'd say do Le Tene and one other Pre Christian thing, but not Newgrange.

    And I'm not sure about Section 2, havn't a clue about European Art. :eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 NerdPantzz


    If I did just la tene for section 1 would I be ok? hmmmm
    thinking of doing an impressionst artist, post impressionst artist and leonardo for section 2

    how much of a risk is this goys?
    Just one topic for the irish section may b a bit dodgey... If it doesnt come up will u be able to answer on anything else at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    i have art history tomorrow - got up at 8 to study but i just cant get myself down to study, ive been so good up till now but its like i just dont care anyone else feeling like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    not doing the leaving cert - but feel like that most days...... thats life !!!

    especially at the moment.....best thing you can do is just read over some sections - time yourself reading a section (ie. life of expressionists/various art history movements and stuff like that).... then answer some exam papers on it..... actually just do some exam papers - the questions are pretty similar every year.

    best of luck with exams


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭aido179


    same...art is my extra subject, as in outside of school so i have a shit load of work to look over tonight and i dunno if it'll win over biology. the fact that i had french this morning didn't help either, I'm just tired of exams


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭BLARG


    I really couldn't be bothered for art either. The paper is just so unapproachable... I could revise loads of stuff tonight which could easily not come up...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Sareail


    I have no idea if this was answered or not because I don't have time to read the whole thread, but wtf is the format for the exam?! My class never got exam papers.. I know its european, irish then appreciation but do you just answer 1 question from all of them?? And Does romanesque/gothic come up every year in european?!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    no I probably wouldnt be able to answer anything else. I hate the irish section so much, I might just vaguely go over something else but I'm really going to concentrate on section 2 and 3, I think I did enough in my practical for a goodish grade anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭7Steve


    I have totally given up on this subject. I'm only going to study La Téne (one stone and 2 metal), 4 paintings from Impressionist artists (2 Manet and 2 Monet), and a tiny bit about Impressionism. Appreciation will be easy, you can bluff your way through that thing, it's all waffle (hopefully).

    That's all I can really learn between now and 2pm.

    I'm screwed

    (Oh, no matter what happens, or what comes up, I'm going to use them pantings for the Thematic Q. I just don't care)

    I hope I pass...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    Sareail wrote: »
    I have no idea if this was answered or not because I don't have time to read the whole thread, but wtf is the format for the exam?! My class never got exam papers.. I know its european, irish then appreciation but do you just answer 1 question from all of them?? And Does romanesque/gothic come up every year in european?!

    3 sections

    1-Irish
    2 - European
    3- appreciation

    go to examinations.ie and look at the past ones, bit crazy going into the exam without knowing & timings 50 mins per question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭jefreywithonef


    One of the biggest problems with Art history is not being able to actually see the paintings / work discussed in the book, only the crappy sketches. I only got into art history once I starting using artchive.com as I was able to actually appreciate the paintings. (Have spent a couple of afternoons just looking at all of Dali's work!!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭mikeglee


    I don't mean to be a kill joy and sound like a waster etc. But I do feel that Art History in secondary is a bit of a joke. In my opinon of course


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    I like it, I just think the course is out to get you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 flerg


    For anyone doing higher or lower who is panicking learn the Bronze age (gold jewellery) and Iron Age/ La Tene period, loughnashde trumpet petrie crown broighter collar castlestrange and Turoe stone. And Giotto Di Bondone for higher Impressionism for ordinary......Rem you have 45min per question and include at least 3 drawings in each question too.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Anyone know of anywhere online I can find good sample answers for the appreciation section? Or can someone post one up that they did well in? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    flerg wrote: »
    For anyone doing higher or lower who is panicking learn the Bronze age (gold jewellery) and Iron Age/ La Tene period, loughnashde trumpet petrie crown broighter collar castlestrange and Turoe stone. And Giotto Di Bondone for higher Impressionism for ordinary......Rem you have 45min per question and include at least 3 drawings in each question too.:)

    Hmm whys that? just cos of predicitions or do you know something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 flerg


    Process of elimination and level of predictability looking at past papers. It's always good to know 2 impressionists and background to the movement.


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