Muse

The Hustler · 02-06-2009 9:09am #1

New album 'The Resistance' out in October hopefully, and they've just announced a European tour which includes a certain large venue on Dublin Quays on November 7th (My Birthday

)

They've recorded a tune called 'United States of Eurasia' which is 13 minutes long and has about 10 different parts.

Really can't wait to hear this!

What a year for albums so far!

fillmore jive · 02-06-2009 9:16am

Jaysus I used to love that band. Showbiz was all I would listen and the second album was decent enough too, but after that kinda lost interest.

The Hustler · 02-06-2009 9:38am

fillmore jive wrote: »

Jaysus I used to love that band. Showbiz was all I would listen and the second album was decent enough too, but after that kinda lost interest.

My favourite Muse album

Some teen angst classics like Uno, Muscle Museum and Sunburn!

loveissucide · 02-06-2009 9:54am

I dunno,I tried and failed many,many times to get into them,but I just find nothing there to bring me back to the albums for a second time.

The Hustler · 02-06-2009 10:09am

loveissucide wrote: »

I dunno,I tried and failed many,many times to get into them,but I just find nothing there to bring me back to the albums for a second time.

I think you really need to see them in a live environment (preferably indoors) to fully appreciate them

loveissucide · 02-06-2009 11:03am

Maybe so but my financial situation has put paid to any gigs for me this summer.

The Hustler · 02-06-2009 11:41am

loveissucide wrote: »

Maybe so but my financial situation has put paid to any gigs for me this summer.

They're not playing here til November to get saving|!

Xavi6 · 02-06-2009 11:41am

My favourite band ever and I've loved everything they've released, but a 13 minute, 10 part song sounds too much like modern Green Day so I'm sceptical to say the least.

I'll still go see them for a 7th time though when they hit Oz.

marshmallow · 02-06-2009 11:54am

I'm so excited for album/tour!

Hmm now that you say it I've only seen them outside so the indoor gig will be a new experience!

The Hustler · 02-06-2009 12:50pm

Seen em in The Temple Bar Music Centre/Button Factory when I was 14 back in 2000 supporting Elastica

There were about 50 people there and it was a life-changing experience! Unreal! First time they ever played Plug In Baby too

xOxSinéadxOx · 02-06-2009 6:48pm

I used to love muse a few years ago. kind of fell out of love with them though, don't really know why. might go listen to some muse now actually

awhir · 02-06-2009 8:48pm

seen them last year , was amazing ! defo going to this

( oxygen , muse , placebo .. its looking good

)

Daysha · 02-06-2009 10:53pm

I went to see them in Marlay Park last year (front row of the pit

) and it was absolutely insane, hands down the best gig of my life. If the O2 is half as good as that night, it'll still be an amazing experience.

MrSparkle · 03-06-2009 11:53am

Just got 2 tickets in the o2 presale thingy. That gig in Marlay park was awesome, saw them in the Point 2 years ago aswell where they were also awesome! They're a fantastic live band

0ubliette · 03-06-2009 12:22pm

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

I used to love muse a few years ago. kind of fell out of love with them though, don't really know why. might go listen to some muse now actually

Yeah i was massive fan in the day, had all the albums and the live album and all but absolution was 50% awesome & 50% crap, and everything after that was just meh to me. A band that seem to have had their popularity surge the more mediocre their output

MrSparkle · 03-06-2009 12:45pm

0ubliette wrote: »

absolution was 50% awesome & 50% crap

Very true, didn't really like that album at all, Black Holes and Revelations was better though.

homerun_homer · 03-06-2009 1:20pm

I just bought pre sale tickets today for them later this year. can anyone tell me are the pre-sale tickets for seating sold from the back of the arena down, because this is the 2nd time now I've done it this year and I've ended up further away than expected.

Not that I mind cause I hear all the views are great from inside the O2 seating area. I've only been once and was standing.

The Hustler · 03-06-2009 1:29pm

MrSparkle wrote: »

Just got 2 tickets in the o2 presale thingy. That gig in Marlay park was awesome, saw them in the RDS 2 years ago aswell where they were also awesome! They're a fantastic live band

Don't re-call them ever playing the RDS mate

gary the great · 03-06-2009 1:35pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

My favourite band ever and I've loved everything they've released, but a 13 minute, 10 part song sounds too much like modern Green Day so I'm sceptical to say the least.

I'll still go see them for a 7th time though when they hit Oz.

Or it could be a Citizen Erased type affair only longer, now that would be awesome.

I have seen Muse live aout 8 times, including the acoustic set in the olympia after their gear didnt make it to Dublin. Last time i seen them was in Wembley, was awesome.

To be honest though ive totally lost intrest in them and their later stuff...although origin of symmetry will always be one of my favourite albums ever.

MrSparkle · 03-06-2009 2:03pm

The Hustler wrote: »

Don't re-call them ever playing the RDS mate

You're right sorry, it was The Point.

happyoutscan · 03-06-2009 2:05pm

Tickets just purchased!

The Hustler · 03-06-2009 3:43pm

gary the great wrote: »

Or it could be a Citizen Erased type affair only longer, now that would be awesome.

I have seen Muse live aout 8 times, including the acoustic set in the olympia after their gear didnt make it to Dublin. Last time i seen them was in Wembley, was awesome.

To be honest though ive totally lost intrest in them and their later stuff...although origin of symmetry will always be one of my favourite albums ever.

It was the support band JJ72 who lost their gear and played an acoustic set, Muse were fully electric that night and blew the roof off the place- best gig I've ever seen in the Olympia!

gary the great · 03-06-2009 3:58pm

Ye the memory is hazy!! It was awesome, but i prefer the dates a few years back when they did the olympia. I went both nights it was that awesome!! Them gigs and the one they did in dublin castlee were the best of them all i think....

The Hustler · 03-06-2009 4:08pm

gary the great wrote: »

Ye the memory is hazy!! It was awesome, but i prefer the dates a few years back when they did the olympia. I went both nights it was that awesome!! Them gigs and the one they did in dublin castlee were the best of them all i think....

Yup, the 2 nights in The Olympia for the Absolution tour were deadly, still prefered the first time they played it in 2000 with JJ72 though!

Dublin Castle was weird, The Hives were supporting but I just wasn't feeling it like I normally do at Muse gigs- getting kicked out twice for crowd surfing and being pissed as a fart didn't help!

Xavi6 · 03-06-2009 4:13pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Bought me a standing ticket just there, muse + a venue like the o2 = win.

Not as much win as when they used to play smaller venues like the Olympia. The last gig in The Point in 07 was horrible in comparison.

Depp · 03-06-2009 5:10pm

The Hustler wrote: »

New album 'The Resistance' out in October

Yeeeeeessssssss

Pigwidgeon · 03-06-2009 7:19pm

saw them at oxegen in 2007 and in marley park last year.
by far one of the best band I've seen live, can't wait for the new album.
Am broke at the moment so not sure if i'll be able to get a ticket, but if they don't sell out I'll definitly buy one in a few weeks!

insinkerator · 04-06-2009 9:47am

Does anyone else not think that it i a seriously dodgy album name no?

The Hustler · 04-06-2009 10:35am

insinkerator wrote: »

Does anyone else not think that it i a seriously dodgy album name no?

I think it's great! 'Origin of Symmetry' is a ridiculous album title

loveissucide · 04-06-2009 10:38am

As is Absolution,Black Holes and Revelations and Hullaballoo.

The Hustler · 04-06-2009 11:00am

loveissucide wrote: »

As is Absolution,Black Holes and Revelations and Hullaballoo.

Thesaurus: hullabaloo Top
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also hullaballoo

noun

Sounds or a sound, especially when loud, confused, or disagreeable: babel, clamor, din, hubbub, noise, pandemonium, racket, rumpus, tumult, uproar. See sounds/pleasant sounds/unpleasant sounds/neutral sounds or silence.
Offensively loud and insistent utterances, especially of disapproval: clamor, outcry, rumpus, uproar, vociferation. Idioms: hue and cry. See like/dislike, sounds/pleasant sounds/unpleasant sounds/neutral sounds or silence.

Did exactly what it said on the tin!

loveissucide · 04-06-2009 11:52am

Is Hullabaloo worth listening to or just a stopgap?

Xavi6 · 04-06-2009 11:55am

loveissucide wrote: »

Is Hullabaloo worth listening to or just a stopgap?

The Hullabaloo DVD is imo a million times better than the Wembley one. The gig is more raw and there are some old classics that are no longer played live.

The versions of Dead Star and In Your World are epic, and the extra CD has Map of Your Head on it which is both cheesey and excellent.

Well worth a listen.

awhir · 04-06-2009 10:59pm

is the standing allready sold out ?

Tarka · 06-06-2009 5:14pm

One of my favourite moments ever at a gig was Muse/The Point 06 when one of the balloons that came down during Bliss found its way onto the stage during Citizen Erased, and just at the part where Matt's playing the riff solo, he looked at it and drives his headstock into it at the moment the drums and bass came crashing in all drums blazing. 'mazing.
Hope they really mix up their setlist on this tour, throw in some of the lesser-played classics along with the new stuff. The Point 06/Oxegen 07/Marlay Park 08 setlists were around 90% identical.

The Hustler · 06-06-2009 5:31pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

The Hullabaloo DVD is imo a million times better than the Wembley one. The gig is more raw and there are some old classics that are no longer played live.

The versions of Dead Star and In Your World are epic, and the extra CD has Map of Your Head on it which is both cheesey and excellent.

Well worth a listen.

This is all correct!

Remember seeing them a good few times in 2001, once at Witnness when they were delayed coming onstage because of the torrential rain and thunder and lightning (amazing gig, opened with MicroCuts, closed with New Born).

Also saw em in a tent in Cork and Galway in June of that year supporting Ash - was a week before the release of OOS but the new songs already sounded like classics. They also played stuff off showbiz which rarely got live airings (Sober, Escape, Overdue).

Best of all was when they supported Elastica in the TBMC in 2000 - most of the crowd f*cked off after seeing Muse, there must've been about 25 people left to watch Elastica!

To this day it's the best gig I've ever been to

rcaz · 06-06-2009 7:43pm

I used to be a Muse fan, but I don't get it anymore. It seems kinda lazy now. Matt Bellamy's super super talented, I don't get why he keeps leaning on that faux-metal crutch. He could be writing symphonies.

And don't get me started on that stupid Fuzz Factory he put inside his guitar :mad:

OctavarIan · 06-06-2009 11:40pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

I used to be a Muse fan, but I don't get it anymore. It seems kinda lazy now. Matt Bellamy's super super talented, I don't get why he keeps leaning on that faux-metal crutch. He could be writing symphonies.

And don't get me started on that stupid Fuzz Factory he put inside his guitar :mad:

Faux-metal? Wut? And he's had that Fuzz Factory for aaaaages, it's part of their sound. Unless you mean the Kaoss Pad thing, which is actually really cool and has a lot of potential once he gets over the widdly widdly urges a la SMBH on the Wembley dvd :P

And as for writing symphonies, there will be a three-part piece with an orchestra on the new album so we shall see!

The Hustler · 07-06-2009 10:14am

I want those kecks

rcaz · 07-06-2009 12:15pm

OctavarIan wrote: »

Faux-metal? Wut? And he's had that Fuzz Factory for aaaaages, it's part of their sound. Unless you mean the Kaoss Pad thing, which is actually really cool and has a lot of potential once he gets over the widdly widdly urges a la SMBH on the Wembley dvd :P

And as for writing symphonies, there will be a three-part piece with an orchestra on the new album so we shall see!

No, I meant the Fuzz Factory. It's a nice fuzz pedal, yes, but the whole aimless-oscillation-for-five-minutes before Plug In Baby or something really wrecks my head. (Speaking as a guitarist who likes to make noise), there are hundreds of different ways to make noise which are constructive and somewhat intelligent, but the Fuzz Factory "trick" he does is moronic.

Yeah, the Kaoss Pad is pretty cool sometimes, I saw a video where he was using the KP to double his voice, which sounded cool.

When I say faux-metal, I mean the way he can play stuff like the piano solo in Butterflies and Hurricanes, so he's obviously been studying music his whole life, he probably knows everything about everything in music, and he STILL just churns out riffs and solos and stadium glam rock. Surely a pianist trained to that standard should have more depth?

The Hustler · 07-06-2009 1:44pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

No, I meant the Fuzz Factory. It's a nice fuzz pedal, yes, but the whole aimless-oscillation-for-five-minutes before Plug In Baby or something really wrecks my head. (Speaking as a guitarist who likes to make noise), there are hundreds of different ways to make noise which are constructive and somewhat intelligent, but the Fuzz Factory "trick" he does is moronic.

Yeah, the Kaoss Pad is pretty cool sometimes, I saw a video where he was using the KP to double his voice, which sounded cool.

When I say faux-metal, I mean the way he can play stuff like the piano solo in Butterflies and Hurricanes, so he's obviously been studying music his whole life, he probably knows everything about everything in music, and he STILL just churns out riffs and solos and stadium glam rock. Surely a pianist trained to that standard should have more depth?

He's completely self-taught, never had a music lesson in his life.

He was a bit of a scumbag when he was 15/16/17, wore tracksuits, robbed cars, burgled houses- then he re-invented himself

rcaz · 07-06-2009 4:53pm

The Hustler wrote: »

He's completely self-taught, never had a music lesson in his life.

**** off, seriously?? That piano-playing is the stuff of prodigy. The guy's obviously a genius. Which makes it more annoying to me that he makes, imo, crap lazy music

Serious serious respect for his skills.

Daysha · 07-06-2009 4:57pm

I really really hope they start playing Citizen Erased a bit more live. Such a criminally underrated song.

The Hustler · 07-06-2009 5:17pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

**** off, seriously?? That piano-playing is the stuff of prodigy. The guy's obviously a genius. Which makes it more annoying to me that he makes, imo, crap lazy music

Serious serious respect for his skills.

Aye, his Mum was a Tarot reader, had him listening to the likes of Berlioz and Rachmaninov from an early age, which is where he developed the interest in classical music. His dad was in a 60's rock band called The Tornado's, so that's probably where he got his interest in guitar.

Daysha wrote: »

I really really hope they start playing Citizen Erased a bit more live. Such a criminally underrated song.

Yup, I agree, they didn't even play it at Marlay Park last year. They tend to alter the setlist on most tours so I'm sure it'll return on the next one, along with some of Showbiz hopefully (they didn't play ONE song off Showbiz @ Marlay in August

)

rcaz · 07-06-2009 10:41pm

The Hustler wrote: »

Aye, his Mum was a Tarot reader, had him listening to the likes of Berlioz and Rachmaninov from an early age, which is where he developed the interest in classical music. His dad was in a 60's rock band called The Tornado's, so that's probably where he got his interest in guitar.

There's more than a pinch of Rach in Butterflies and Hurricanes, alright

The Hustler · 07-06-2009 11:38pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

There's more than a pinch of Rach in Butterflies and Hurricanes, alright

Yup, both composers influence 'Space Dementia' too if you listen closely enough

marshmallow · 09-06-2009 2:31pm

The Hustler wrote: »

the first time they played it in 2000 with JJ72 though!

They were supported by JJ72?? I was just listening to them today, I'd say that was a great gig!

The Hustler · 09-06-2009 4:07pm

marshmallow wrote: »

They were supported by JJ72?? I was just listening to them today, I'd say that was a great gig!

Yep. Well sort've. It was a poxy weekend for weather and JJ72's gear got stuck in London so lead singer Mark Greaney had to borrow an acoustic guitar from Matt Bellamy and played a solo acoustic set.

For most of 2001 though, JJ72 were the main support band to Muse throughout Europe and The States.

S.M.B. · 09-06-2009 5:07pm

The Hustler wrote: »

It was the support band JJ72 who lost their gear and played an acoustic set, Muse were fully electric that night and blew the roof off the place- best gig I've ever seen in the Olympia!

Did they not insert an acoustic section into the setlist that night? I remember being slightly disappointed because of the pacing of the show. It was still a pretty impressive show all the same.

I remember being blown away the first time I heard the OOS material at Reading 2000. That was a cracking gig.

The Hustler · 09-06-2009 5:47pm

S.M.B. wrote: »

Did they not insert an acoustic section into the setlist that night? I remember being slightly disappointed because of the pacing of the show. It was still a pretty impressive show all the same.

I remember being blown away the first time I heard the OOS material at Reading 2000. That was a cracking gig.

They did indeed - 'Unintended', 'Screenager', 'Natural Disaster/Nature_One' and 'Hate This & I'll Love You' from what I remember.

**** that was an incredible gig! Kicked off with Uno, blasted into Sunburn and Sober, then the acoustic set appeared out of nowhere! Not a big fan of acoustic sets but that one was deadly!

S.M.B. · 09-06-2009 8:32pm

So i wasn't imagining it.

I didn't like the way they did that tbh. After a fantastic opening I thought that part of the gig was a bit too dragged out.

It could be that I was rather drunk and full of beans though.

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