Engineering Thread

godtabh · 06-05-2009 12:49PM

Jonathan wrote: »

Haha, any reason?

I'm sure we had witty funny reasons for it

Brian · 06-05-2009 12:51PM

firefox.bouncing..it's so..mesmersing

Cravo · 06-05-2009 03:26PM

Baza210 wrote: »

firefox.bouncing..it's so..mesmersing

hah yeah impossible to drag your eyes away from it, just keep going back ;-)

Jonathan · 06-05-2009 03:27PM

Baza210 wrote: »

firefox.bouncing..it's so..mesmersing

Wut?

Brian · 06-05-2009 03:28PM

Jonathan wrote: »

Wut?

In 1E3 today, Lucy had a notification on Firefox and ignored it so it was bouncing in the dock for the whole lecture.

Jonathan · 06-05-2009 03:35PM

Baza210 wrote: »

In 1E3 today, Lucy had a notification on Firefox and ignored it so it was bouncing in the dock for the whole lecture.

Haha, i was thinking it was some new plugin or add on.

rjt · 06-05-2009 03:41PM

Did anyone here do Microprocessor Systems (CS3D1/2) in 3rd year? I have to make subject choices soon, and am wondering what it's like.

Jonathan · 06-05-2009 03:55PM

rjt wrote: »

Did anyone here do Microprocessor Systems (CS3D1/2) in 3rd year? I have to make subject choices soon, and am wondering what it's like.

Are you not doing maths?

Boston · 06-05-2009 04:26PM

rjt wrote: »

Did anyone here do Microprocessor Systems (CS3D1/2) in 3rd year? I have to make subject choices soon, and am wondering what it's like.

Yes. What do you want to know specifically.

rjt · 06-05-2009 04:42PM

@Jonathan: Yeah, but we get to take some engineering/MSISS/CS courses. In the same way that we take your computer science course this year.

Boston wrote: »

Yes. What do you want to know specifically.

I have the course content, so mostly what the lecturers are like, and whether or not it's very difficult to do well in. As in, I know from maths students in 3rd and 4th year what maths subjects to stay away from (badly lectured or known to have very tough exams, where people very rarely do well and learn very little). I just want to make sure this isn't one of those courses. Also, if you have any comments on the course that I won't get from the CS department/course description.

Brian · 07-05-2009 06:29PM

Apparently Igor was on the radio earlier today with some brilliant energy solution..

TheAmateur · 07-05-2009 07:28PM

I'm guessing it had something to do with a crazy fusion reactor or something...

Anyone done A5 yet? The part where it goes

For example: (Note, not actual connections)

Signal 1 connected to Pin 1 of the NAND IC
Signal 2 connected to Pin 2 of the NAND IC
PIN 7 of the NAND IC connected to PIN 8 of the JK IC

is confusing me, cause as far as I can see, the first two are actual connections! Also, does the NAND IC consist of four NAND gates? Do we use them all? In our hardware handout it looks like a single AND gate, then in stage 2 of the flow chart he shows two NAND gates, and then, in the NAND IC schematic I can see four NAND gates!?!

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 08:25PM

TheAmateur wrote: »

I'm guessing it had something to do with a crazy fusion reactor or something...

Anyone done A5 yet? The part where it goes
is confusing me, cause as far as I can see, the first two are actual connections! Also, does the NAND IC consist of four NAND gates? Do we use them all? In our hardware handout it looks like a single AND gate, then in stage 2 of the flow chart he shows two NAND gates, and then, in the NAND IC schematic I can see four NAND gates!?!

*facepalm*

You could just ask the person correcting it yourself..

Brian · 07-05-2009 08:29PM

It's webC... what?

TheAmateur · 07-05-2009 08:40PM

Jonathan wrote: »

*facepalm*

You could just ask the person correcting it yourself..

I hope that doesn't mean what it means.
Was I right then in thinking that those first two are actual connections? I'm pretty sure those are right, it's the whole rest of the thing I'm worried about. The hardware handout diagram looks nothing like the webct one. Of course. I mean they wouldn't want to make it any way do-able or anything...

Brian · 07-05-2009 08:50PM

I don't think we used all of the available flip-flops on the IC thingy.

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 09:07PM

Baza210 wrote: »

I don't think we used all of the available flip-flops on the IC thingy.

You used 2 of 4 NAND gates and 1 of 2 JK's IIRC.

TheAmateur · 07-05-2009 09:27PM

Jonathan wrote: »

You used 2 of 4 NAND gates

That makes sense. Wonder why we didn't just use an AND...

Jonathan wrote: »

and 1 of 2 JK's IIRC.

I see... That thing basically makes the pulse a little bit longer at the end doesn't it?

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 09:35PM

TheAmateur wrote: »

That makes sense. Wonder why we didn't just use an AND...

NAND gates are cheaper (less transistors), and you can make the other gates from NAND gates.

Brian · 07-05-2009 09:35PM

Is it just me, or does this method seem quicker and easier than the method we were shown? Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought we were taught stuff about A/[wut] + B/[wut]

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 09:35PM

Baza210 wrote: »

Is it just me, or does this method seem quicker and easier than the method we were shown? Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought we were taught stuff about A/[wut] + B/[wut]

FYP

EDIT: Ninja editor got ninja'd.

Brian · 07-05-2009 09:40PM

Jonathan wrote: »

FYP

EDIT: Ninja editor got ninja'd.

You're living in a dial-up world compared to me, matey.

devinejay · 07-05-2009 09:43PM

I thought A5 was a terrible assignment, but I give out about everything. I Understood everything we did in the lab pretty well (like I think we did use a single AND gate) but the assignment just made it more confusing. The color coding was boll0x, why not just give us the schematics we used in the practical and let us work out once again how the circuit works instead of leaving us to blindly say "Well Pin 3 has the same color as Pins 5 and 6, I may as well connect them." Nothing is learned by that.

Brian · 07-05-2009 09:46PM

It's not any quicker, anyway. And it gives a different answer, which is always mind-clarifying.

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 09:46PM

devinejay wrote: »

I thought A5 was a terrible assignment, but I give out about everything. I Understood everything we did in the lab pretty well (like I think we did use a single AND gate) but the assignment just made it more confusing. The color coding was boll0x, why not just give us the schematics we used in the practical and let us work out once again how the circuit works instead of leaving us to blindly say "Well Pin 3 has the same color as Pins 5 and 6, I may as well connect them." Nothing is learned by that.

I wouldn't be surprised if you get a ****ty mark. :P

devinejay · 07-05-2009 10:01PM

The marking does seem pretty erratic, I've seen people with practically the same answers get totally different scores. I guess there's no point in fretting then...!

Brian · 07-05-2009 11:05PM

Anyone know when/where we hand in our lab book?

devinejay · 07-05-2009 11:07PM

Yeah I was wondering about that, I figured that since nothing was said yet it'll only be assessed if you only just fail or whatever.

Jonathan · 07-05-2009 11:09PM

Baza210 wrote: »

Anyone know when/where we hand in our lab book?

devinejay wrote: »

Yeah I was wondering about that, I figured that since nothing was said yet it'll only be assessed if you only just fail or whatever.

You don't.

It is all BS.

Ours was never collected last year.

mathew · 07-05-2009 11:37PM

Seems to be the same this year too.. or do they take it in to account if you fail 2E10 or something..

edit: Just dug out my A5 there.. Its actually really really short..
I do remember loosing marks tho for not saying what pins were connected to the power source.

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