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  • #512
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    XserialX wrote: »
    oh wait for it the stupid gym i live near charges over 800euro.....>:(

    lipo was act cheaper!! i totally aggre wit chu tho it really isnt for everyone, iv had friends fail badly, pile on the weight again +more etc.
    it was a risk i took n i am happy i did. haha i look better than wen i started:L
    Can you please start speaking English because your posts are painful to read.


  • #513
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    aare wrote: »
    Nope...the truth is they gave me (unsolicited) "advice" that was inappropriate for me, because, however much they like to think they do, they don't know everything...and they didn't know anything helpful to me...

    So I had to find something else that was...which is fine...but I don't think anyone had any right to attack me because they didn't know anything useful to me.

    lol, you must be a medical marvel. Seeing as your body works differently to every other body in the world.

    Listen, the premise behind fat loss is simple, it's the same for you as it is for anyone else. I'm going to say it once again, if you're were attempting to eat healthy and exercise and you gained weight, then you WEREN'T eating as healthily as you first thought. Now, because you lacked the cop on to figure that out for yourself, you decided that you're in fact special, and that conventional means of weight loss that work for everyone else, doesn't work for you.

    Personally, I can't understand how you weren't losing weight when you were eating so well....

    Taken from here.
    Every day I eat pretty much as follows:

    Within 3 hours of waking (I keep funny hours so normal "meal times" aren't that relevant):

    4 rashers,
    handful of mushrooms
    3/4 tomatos
    cooked in olive oil

    About 6 hours later I eat

    Ratatouille (Aubergines, courgettes, tomato paste onions etc)
    or
    A couple of veggies (eg broccoli and corn)
    and
    about 3/4 pound of lean meat (usually pork or steak)

    I may have the second meal twice in one day if I am unusually hungry

    I drink loads of coffee with sweetner and low fat coffeemate (black it makes me too acid and the coffeemate doesn't seem to make the slightest difference to weight gain).

    I also drink fruit teas and force down the odd bit of green tea (yes, it DOES taste like stewed straw) too.

    I am fairly fit, though my whole regime of fitness (aimed at pole dancing...so sue me ) went by the board this year between horrible weather and living in exceptionally "interesting times".

    Sorry aare, but your ignorance is just embarrassing.


  • #514
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Just a reminder to play nice. This thread causes an undue amount of grief for me and the other mods.


  • #515
    aare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Sorry aare, but your ignorance is just embarrassing.

    Seems to me that is more true of you...for instance, I have never been ignorant enough to think I could change somebody's mind, let alone their metabolism by making snide and unpleasant personal remarks.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Personally, I can't understand how you weren't losing weight when you were eating so well....

    Taken from here.

    Just because you do not understand something, doesn't mean it is not so (and HOW!).

    Higher calories or carbs just meant I gained weight faster...before you decide to come up with that.

    I was gaining weight the "boards approved weight loss way" between 1999 and 2003.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    lol, you must be a medical marvel. Seeing as your body works differently to every other body in the world.

    No it doesn't, it just works differently to the way you want to believe every body in the world works so you can kid yourself you know everything as an excuse to snipe at anyone who challenges your belief system.

    Like a lot of people, I am carb intolerant. I am also 51 and postmenopausal, which means my metabolism is even SUPPOSED to be totally different to yours.

    The reality I deal with is that unless I reduce calories so low as to be conventionally intolerable I do not lose any weight at all. If I reduce carbs drastically, I go into ketosis and it becomes tolerable and faster...if I am lucky.

    ...and if you sniping and hurling abuse at me was ever going to change that I would pay you to stand in my front garden and do it.

    A significant amount of people I know find pretty much the same. My only "unique" factor is that they usually have more sense and better things to do with their time than post about it so that people like you can abuse them for it.

    PS. I suddenly became fat without any significant change in diet in 1998


  • #516
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    aare wrote: »
    PS. I suddenly became fat without any significant change in diet in 1998

    TBH, I didn't read the rest of your post, but this bit poked me in the eye and I have two problems with it: Nobody "suddenly" becomes fat. As with weight loss, weight gain takes time. Also, it doesn't take a significant change in diet to cause lots and lots and lots of weight gain. 300 calories a day more than you need (less than a snickers) = fat over time. You could have the /exact/ same diet but drive more instead of walking and gain weight over time. You drive a little more, eat a little more and all of a sudden weight gain becomes very easy.

    Just going with that (storing 300 calories a day). After 1 year that would be a weight gain of: 300 x 365 = about 2 stone in 1 year.


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  • #517
    cardio,shoot me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    i still have no idea why the lipotrim thread is in the fitness section :/


  • #518
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    XserialX wrote: »
    its medically sound.

    im living proof that lioptrim dose not infact hurt u n any mannor or form:mad:
    XserialX wrote: »
    i totally aggre wit chu tho it really isnt for everyone, iv had friends fail badly, pile on the weight again +more etc.
    OK....
    XserialX wrote: »
    I broke my ancle and was out of dance 4 a while. put up loads of weight and then needed to loose it quick. and i dont need to explaine my act job title to u ding dong. :confused:
    People were confused as to how a professional dancer would be applicable to go on it. People would assume you would not be obese so were simply wondering how you were even sold it. Did your doctor give any other alternatives when he/she prescribed you lipotrim?
    aare wrote: »
    EXACTLY...ergo, for me, to try and lose weight by "doing as I am told" on boards would be to "do it *rseways".
    What exactly were you told? First port of call in any forum is the stickies, it says.
    Jak wrote: »
    Basics of calorific surplus

    People often perceive that they "eat so much" and yet never gain a pound. The truth is weight gain or weight loss comes down to maths for the vast majority of the world. Sure, things from rare genetic states to tapeworm might restrict some's ability to gain weight - but if you are in these categories you should be seeking professional help and not consulting a web forum for advice.
    g'em wrote: »
    Once you've realised that all-important basic equation..

    Gain weight = eat more calories
    Lose weight = eat less calories

    Personally I estimated my calorie intake from calculators, then I found I was not losing as much as expected so reduced more calories, I empirically worked out my basal metabolism as about ~2100kcal and adjusted accordingly.
    my metabolism is even SUPPOSED to be totally different to yours.

    The reality I deal with is that unless I reduce calories so low as to be conventionally intolerable I do not lose any weight at all.
    So what did you figure out your basal metabolic rate/needs to be? You were saying it is hard with a full time job and 3 kids, but if you are truely feeling suicidal you should make the time.

    Also I think the average calorie intake in Ireland is ~3500kcal so some people might regard this as normal or "conventional".
    cardio,shoot me wrote: »
    i still have no idea why the lipotrim thread is in the fitness section :/
    It was kept going to give fair warning to potential "patients", and to keep all threads together. Search lipotrim in google, the first hit I get is "my lipotrim hell", this thread is up there too.


  • #519
    g'em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    cardio,shoot me wrote: »
    i still have no idea why the lipotrim thread is in the fitness section :/
    It was started before there was a Nutrition & Diet forum.

    If you Google Lipotrim this thread is one of the top results. From a purely housekeeping pov I'm happier to have it here.

    XserialX please don't call other people names - as mild as 'ding dong' is as an insult, it's still personal abuse and we have a blanket intolerance for that. Make your points without having to resort to it.

    And to everyone else, like Khannie has said, play nice. It's an emotive thread but sniping and lazy arguing will not help.


  • #520
    aare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    Khannie wrote: »
    TBH, I didn't read the rest of your post, but this bit poked me in the eye and I have two problems with it: Nobody "suddenly" becomes fat. As with weight loss, weight gain takes time. Also, it doesn't take a significant change in diet to cause lots and lots and lots of weight gain. 300 calories a day more than you need (less than a snickers) = fat over time. You could have the /exact/ same diet but drive more instead of walking and gain weight over time. You drive a little more, eat a little more and all of a sudden weight gain becomes very easy.

    Just going with that (storing 300 calories a day). After 1 year that would be a weight gain of: 300 x 365 = about 2 stone in 1 year.

    Actually Khannie it was fairly sudden as I got pneumonia that turned out to be a full blown COPD exacerbation...I never really recovered from it for years...

    The weight piled on pretty fast...I had gained a stone in about a month...

    When I quit smoking, and started an "healthier than ever" diet in September 2001 it got even worse.

    ...and "making things up" is not something I do...

    ...and it actually kinda hurts to see you suggest it might be...I thought better of you than that...for the record, it would never even cross my mind that you were lying about something that happened for you just because it doesn't happen for me...I'd would just recognise it as a difference between us, and move on.

    Regardless...no-one...not even you, knows what goes on behind someone else's closed doors...

    Weight and body image is an hugely emotive issue. Adult people need to make the choices that work FOR THEM, not submit themselves as guinea pigs for any "one true way" that works for someone else, and nobody has any real right to snipe at their integrity on that account, however subtly.


  • #521
    aare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    rubadub wrote: »
    What exactly were you told? First port of call in any forum is the stickies, it says.

    We have to go WAY back to what I was told, unsolicited, I should have done instead, when I innocently posted on my experience of Lipotrim in 2006.

    Without exception, and with plenty of abuse...I was told I SHOULD, and was some variation on stupid for not doing things that had failed to cause me to lose weight, reliably, since 1998...and had often caused gain.
    rubadub wrote: »
    Personally I estimated my calorie intake from calculators, then I found I was not losing as much as expected so reduced more calories, I empirically worked out my basal metabolism as about ~2100kcal and adjusted accordingly.

    I literally did not lose ANY weight until I took it right down with Lipotrim...I have been trying to do something less drastic with actual food ever since, but so far I get nowhere.
    rubadub wrote: »
    So what did you figure out your basal metabolic rate/needs to be? You were saying it is hard with a full time job and 3 kids, but if you are truely feeling suicidal you should make the time.

    I don't have 3 kids (at my age???) but some people posting on these boards do.
    rubadub wrote: »
    It was kept going to give fair warning to potential "patients", and to keep all threads together. Search lipotrim in google, the first hit I get is "my lipotrim hell", this thread is up there too.

    You might even try reality and impartiality instead someday.


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  • #522
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    aare, I assume you will be on lipotrim for the rest of your life? Seeing as it's seemingly impossible for you to eat actual food without gaining weight?

    Care to provide an sample of your diet when you were eating what all the evil no it all boardsies suggested?


  • #523
    aare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    aare, I assume you will be on lipotrim for the rest of your life? Seeing as it's seemingly impossible for you to eat actual food without gaining weight?

    Care to provide an sample of your diet when you were eating what all the evil no it all boardsies suggested?

    I am not actually on lipotrim at all (except using it up for breakfast...and if I decided to get more it will be from a Bariatrix stockist with a more realistic markup)...and no, I certainly am not going to waste a beautiful day typing up faintly remembered sample menus from as long ago as 1999 so that you can have something to address totally uniformative sniping remarks to (which is ALL I have ever seen you, personally, do at all, loads of personal sniping, loads of "you are stupid unless you do what he said" but no actual information to offer at all. Ah well, at least the avatar is fair warning. :rolleyes:)

    But what I will tell you is this...you actually dug up pretty much the only thread where I asked for any advice at all, and I did that to be fair and actually give boards a chance to suggest something useful to me.

    When I realised that even an actual moderator was so busy informing me that I wouldn't find tapwater disgusting if I was REALLY TRYING that they completely overlooked the fact that I am at high risk of hyperhydration (and if you don't know what that is, I suggest you check it out, because it is potentially lethal)...I zoned out fast...

    XserialX is a pro dancer...after a broken ankle layup in a recession she needed to get the weight off and get back in the game ASAP in order to still have work...to try and do it "the boards way" could easily cost her her career...I doubt if pleasing you guys would (or should) be worth that to her.

    Why am I the only person who noticed?

    The only people who will ever have any useful advice to offer me are the kind of people who react to someone else's experience and knowledge that challenges what the already know by thinking:

    "Now that's interesting, I wonder why that happened?" until they have figured it out...

    Certainly not the kind of people who say "If you do it MY WAY it WILL WORK", and "If MY WAY isn't working you must be DOING MY WAY WRONG", and "If MY WAY isn't working and you won't admit to DOING MY WAY WRONG, you must be MAKING THINGS UP"...

    ...much less still those who say things like "Your way CANNOT POSSIBLY be the best choice for you because I tried it and it made me miserable", and "The only reason you could possibly have for not doing it MY WAY is because you are stupid" (did I leave any out?).

    Meanwhile zoning out everything you say that does not support their existing viewpoint. (I actually discovered that there is a, probably once off, medically acknowledged "honeymoon period" where people on VLCD can develop muscle during the first few weeks adaptation, and posted it on this thread. But people ignored it, as though it didn't exist, and went on typing, pouring scorn on my claim of that happening to me...I found that really telling.)

    There are people around here who really do know what works for them in every last detail...no sarcasm, they do...but having learned that, they went on to surround themselves only with people who have similar experiences and close their minds to everything else...

    As soon as you close your mind, you stop learning, which is best short cut I know to guaranteeing that you not only do not know everything, but you never will...nor even come close.

    And it's summer out there...somebody wonderful gave me the lawnmower equivalent of a Lamborghini...and I stripped the throttle, ignition and carb all by myself and got it working...and my tan isn't even close to adequate yet...

    So I bid you all farewell.


  • #524
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    aare wrote: »
    XserialX is a pro dancer...after a broken ankle layup in a recession she needed to get the weight off and get back in the game ASAP in order to still have work...to try and do it "the boards way" could easily cost her her career...I doubt if pleasing you guys would (or should) be worth that to her.

    I stopped reading here tbh.

    No offense intended, but you put your argument across like a child. People here don't suggest ''the boards way'', they suggest the tried & tested, medically proven way, the same way that EVERY expert the world over would suggest to you if you were to ask them.

    You say this is the only time you have asked for advice.

    Firstly, there is absolutely nothing in that thread that would lead you to weigh 30st! Quite an over estimation on your part I would say.

    You complain that people suggested you drink plenty of water, even though you're at risk of hyperhydration, yet you didn't mention hyperhydration once in that thread. You then go on and contradict yourself by saying you drink 2-3 litres a day of coffee/tea, what exactly do you have in coffee & tea? :rolleyes:

    If there's one thing to take from your posts here, and in the thread linked. It's that you have a serious chip on your shoulder, coupled with a nasty attitude problem that I would associate with a pubescent teenager.

    I'm done arguing with you.


  • #525
    aare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Firstly, there is absolutely nothing in that thread that would lead you to weigh 30st! Quite an over estimation on your part I would say.

    That was the only time I asked for advice...it's the unsolicited stuff you will find earlier in this thread (round about 2006) that would have me up to 30stone by now...

    That thread wouldn't have me above 17stone yet.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    You complain that people suggested you drink plenty of water, even though you're at risk of hyperhydration, yet you didn't mention hyperhydration once in that thread.

    I had already mentioned "no brainer" hyperhydration factors in several threads just before that...but they zoned them out...I was tired repeating myself to the same people and, NB they were determinedly ignoring the, more general, fact that hyperhydration exists and is a very serious problem.
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    You then go on and contradict yourself by saying you drink 2-3 litres a day of coffee/tea, what exactly do you have in coffee & tea? :rolleyes:

    Better remember that is "fruit tea", because I have a dramatic allergy to tannin and can't drink tea as such, at all.

    Having 3 liters of water a day is not a problem for me...but adding more tapwater, indiscriminately to that soon would be!
    MagicMarker wrote: »
    If there's one thing to take from your posts here, and in the thread linked. It's that you have a serious chip on your shoulder, coupled with a nasty attitude problem that I would associate with a pubescent teenager.

    Projection101.

    I have have honestly only ever seen you post to put someone down...and never with any relevant information of any kind, just terms of abuse. That is all I have ever seen, or know of you, or ever will.


  • #526
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Jeez you just have all sorts of crap wrong iwth you dont' you aare?


  • #527
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    aare wrote: »
    ...and "making things up" is not something I do...

    I didn't imply that you did. Only that your choice of words weren't great.

    edit: just working the numbers here....to gain a stone of fat (14lb's) in a month, you'd need to overeat by 14lb's of fat in a month. That's a pound of fat every other day (give or take). Let's round that down to 200g of fat every day. That's overeating by approximately 1800 calories a day (on average). So if your diet didn't change, then you must have been very very active beforehand.


  • #528
    corkcomp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    aare you really should step away from the keyboard - it is impossible to gain that much fat in that time period - weight gain could be for a number of reasons but no way could you gain that much BF .. and sorry but your continuing refusal to post your diet are not doing you any favours!


  • #529
    XserialX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭XserialX


    when i was employed i got free gym access with the company i was with. ughh no i wil not write n prop english. i dnt have to so i dnt see why i sud:D


    eeeh nt botherd n e mre.

     luv u all. god bless. continue arguing. i wnt be calling n e one else 'ding dong'.
    :P


  • #530
    g'em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    XserialX wrote: »
    ughh no i wil not write n prop english. i dnt have to so i dnt see why i sud:D
    You do actually, from the Boards.ie general charter as outlined in the Newbies & FAQ forum:
    Boards.ie Charter

    While each forum has its own forum charter, the general Boards.ie Charter applies to every forum. Common sense prevails when posting on Boards.ie but below is a brief guide;
    • Personal Abuse will not be tolerated – Attack the post and not the poster.
    • ...
    • Txt or l33t speak is not permitted. Its very, VERY, hard to read posts constructed in that way!
    XserialX wrote:
    eeeh nt botherd n e mre.

    luv u all. god bless. continue arguing. i wnt be calling n e one else 'ding dong'.
    :P

    Antagonising people would also be considered the height of rudeness and obnoxiousness. I'd strongly suggest that if you want to stick around that you have a read of the Charters and spend some time getting the feel of the forum in general.


  • #531
    Acoustic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Acoustic


    why do people just assume that doing the diet is the easy way out or wrong way ???

    i personally know 3 people who lost alot of weight together and i think it was 14 stone between them and they havnt put the weight back on

    that was 3 years ago

    if u stop the diet and go eating crap you will obviously put weight on , ur be stupid to believe otherwise

    these 3 people 2 girls and i guy have new lifes now , do loads of gym , they actually like it now cause their comfy doing it , there concious how they eat etc

    so dont say " you will put it back on etc " when if u approach it right , you wont

    i admit its not the healtist way but its got them 3 people on the right road


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  • #532
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Do you really think the people who failed on it thought they could hop on lipotrim for a month then go back to eating junk? No they gave the whole "kick start on my road to healthy eating" speech to somebody as well you know. Doing and saying are worlds apart.


  • #533
    Acoustic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Acoustic


    ive seen the results over 3 years and they sustained it


  • #534
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Then what is stopping you?


  • #535
    Acoustic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Acoustic


    stopping me doing what ???

    i lost you ???

    i just said i know people who have done lipotrim and lost alot and 3 years later all 3 are still slim and alot more active and the diet did help them


  • #536
    rosco73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭rosco73


    i was on the lipotrim diet for about 6 weeks starting weight 17st11lbs and after 6weeks my weight is now 14st that was nearly 2 years ago its a kick to get you on a new way of thinking about food, you have to change your whole lifestyle after if not you are back to were you started and some.i go to the gym now 3 to 4 times a week and dont eat any bread now i still have a few beers at the weekend and can still manage . but this diet is not for everybody you have to have a very strong will to get through it but in the end it worked for me and iam the happiest i have been in years


  • #537
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Forgot about this thread...
    aare wrote: »
    ...and "making things up" is not something I do...
    I presume you do understand why people find it hard to believe you?, what you are saying goes against everything people have ever heard of before, and plenty of posters here have read a lot about dieting etc. I have not seen any other poster here with a similar "body" to you.
    "the boards way"
    As said already, the advice you usually see here it is not something that boards members came up with, they are just reiterating all the stuff they have read countless times, government agencies etc. If you went to any other similar forums you would probably get the exact same reaction to your posts.
    aare wrote: »
    I literally did not lose ANY weight until I took it right down with Lipotrim...I have been trying to do something less drastic with actual food ever since, but so far I get nowhere.
    This is what people find hard to believe. You had to lower to ~450kcal per day to begin to lose weight. I estimated my calorie intake and remained level so I lowered it until I was losing about 1/2lb per week. I was using the 3500kcal per lb loss/gain estimate. So that was a 250kcal deficit needed. So if you did not lose ANY weight as mentioned, and only began to lose at 450kcal. So if this followed the general theory of 3500kcal per day then your basal metabolism was 700kcal a day. This is what people have never heard of before, a ~6ft woman with a metabolism that low, so find it hard to believe. It is probably under 1/3rd of what people would expect.

    Similar people disbelieve lads here who are trying to put on weight, saying they eat "loads". It would be like a guy claiming to have to eat 7500kcal per day before he gained ANY weight. 3 times the expected/estimated metabolic rate.
    Acoustic wrote: »
    these 3 people 2 girls and i guy have new lifes now , do loads of gym , they actually like it now cause their comfy doing it , there concious how they eat etc
    And would they still recommend it to people?


  • #538
    enrybo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭enrybo


    I am currently on my third round of Lipotrim. I first did it about this time last year for 6 weeks. My BMI was 30.8 and with the lipotrim I managed to bring it down to 25. The week I finished the Lipotrim I joined weightwatchers and followed their programme and continued to loose another 5lbs. I decided to do it for 2 weeks before christmas again. Prob not the best idea as you don't seem to sustain all the weightloss when only done for only 2 weeks but I lost 8 lbs that time (although I did put most of that back up again). I have sustained that initial weightloss though without any mad dieting or going to the gym. Just by being sensible and not lying to myself. Started again last week for what is hopefully my third and final time. I hope to loose another 1 1/2 stone which would bring my BMI down to about 21 and I would be in happy happy land. This is all about changing you lifestyle and I would recommend it to other people but only if you are willing to be very dedicated and change you lifestyle when you come off it. Otherwise it just won't work. A lot of determination is required. Whan I was on it I went away for the weekend with friends, went on nights out etc. and basically you're sitting their drinking water so it is tough. A lot of people have said that it's not healthy and you're prob right but neither is being v overweight or obese and at least this is done only for a short time. The main thing though is that I am so much happier and confident than I was before I lost the weight. I'm also a lot healthier because I am much more careful about what I put in my mouth and I am phsically able to do a lot more.


  • #539
    chocoholica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭chocoholica


    Hi Boardies!
    I am starting Lipotrim tomorrow after a very informed and serious consultation with my pharmacist. I have just over 3 stone to lose. I would like to hear about other people's experiences and get some support while doing the first stage of the programme especially. I have read a lot of the posts here already and would love to read more positive posts on this thread as it seems like people have been posting very critical and unsupportive messages:(
    I think it's great that anyone try and get to grips with their weight as part of the process of becoming healthier - physically and mentally.
    I have battled with a serious illness for the past ten years and had to take a lot of medication. Both the illness and medication had disastrous effects on my self esteem and weight. Prior to this I was able to manage my weight through healthy eating and exercise.
    My goal is to get the weight down so that I can exercise more comfortably and enjoy a healthier lifestyle in general. I am under pressure with time due to other circumstances I would not divulge here. Suffice to say I think this is a great opportunity to recover physically and I think anyone who tries to do such should be respected, supported and applauded. This world is hard enough without cyberspace following suit:rolleyes:


  • #540
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    chocoholica wrote: »
    Hi Boardies!
    I am starting Lipotrim tomorrow after a very informed and serious consultation with my pharmacist. I have just over 3 stone to lose. I would like to hear about other people's experiences and get some support while doing the first stage of the programme especially. I have read a lot of the posts here already and would love to read more positive posts on this thread as it seems like people have been posting very critical and unsupportive messages:(
    I think it's great that anyone try and get to grips with their weight as part of the process of becoming healthier - physically and mentally.
    I have battled with a serious illness for the past ten years and had to take a lot of medication. Both the illness and medication had disastrous effects on my self esteem and weight. Prior to this I was able to manage my weight through healthy eating and exercise.
    My goal is to get the weight down so that I can exercise more comfortably and enjoy a healthier lifestyle in general. I am under pressure with time due to other circumstances I would not divulge here. Suffice to say I think this is a great opportunity to recover physically and I think anyone who tries to do such should be respected, supported and applauded. This world is hard enough without cyberspace following suit:rolleyes:

    1) Maybe there are more bad stories and tales of woah because it's not all you think it's cracked up to be.....

    2) Absoultely. Lipotrim alone won't get you there. Ya might lose some weight, but without exercise and actually improving what you eat going forward you won't get the results you want. Think of Lipotrim as a band-aid over a gash. It might stem the flow for a while, but without stitches (ie reformed training and nutrition approach) you're destined to end up in a crap place.


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    chocoholica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭chocoholica


    Hanley wrote: »
    1) Maybe there are more bad stories and tales of woah because it's not all you think it's cracked up to be.....

    2) Absoultely. Lipotrim alone won't get you there. Ya might lose some weight, but without exercise and actually improving what you eat going forward you won't get the results you want. Think of Lipotrim as a band-aid over a gash. It might stem the flow for a while, but without stitches (ie reformed training and nutrition approach) you're destined to end up in a crap place.

    I agree you need to do a lot more than just the LT to long term be happy and healthy and I do not underestimate the importance of this. However it would be good to read some more positive comments here in general.;)

    PS. I don't think LT is a miracle programme either but an effective kickstart for people in my position.


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