Things you wish were common knowledge.... but aren't!

Hooch · 24-03-2009 11:59PM

lyingeyes wrote: »

Advice needed on frequently recurring issue!!

garda: your exhaust is too loud
little brother: the car passed n.c.t. with it
garda: well its just failed my N.C.T, if i hear you again i'll impound the car, and where is your fully licenced driver??
(little brother pointing to older brother): heavily intoxicated in the back seat
Garda: does he have his drivers licence with him??
little brother: no
Garda: Your in a bit of bother so bukko!!

Passing NCT makes your car roadworthy......not road legal. Two different issues.

No licence with him then no full licenced driver:D
Book em danno

deadwood · 25-03-2009 01:50AM

Another one.

Gardai don't necessarily know how to get cows/sheep off the road any better than you do. That is, of course, since the Dubs were allowed in.

Get out of your car you lazy git!

kerry4sam · 25-03-2009 02:50AM

deadwood wrote: »

Another one.

Gardai don't necessarily know how to get cows/sheep off the road any better than you do. That is, of course, since the Dubs were allowed in.

Get out of your car you lazy git!

They may not be any better at doing it than the locals or passers-by are, but down this neck of the woods, Gardaì have been known to get impromptu & un-planned training to help get sheep and cattle off the roads if causing obstruction to the passing public :pac:

DeVore · 25-03-2009 03:39AM

deadwood wrote: »

Another one.

Gardai don't necessarily know how to get cows/sheep off the road any better than you do. That is, of course, since the Dubs were allowed in.

Get out of your car you lazy git!

Does anyone else get the feeling that Deadwood has to face a totally different set of problems to the rest of the Gardai on this thread....

DeV.

TheNog · 25-03-2009 10:20AM

DeVore wrote: »

Does anyone else get the feeling that Deadwood has to face a totally different set of problems to the rest of the Gardai on this thread....

DeV.

Never mind that its Mrs Deadwood who has the unique problems

DeVore · 25-03-2009 01:09PM

Cut it out and back on topic. Argue somewhere else.

DeV.

ohanloj3 · 25-03-2009 01:29PM

happyhappy wrote: »

when you are drunk in the a&e dept (of a very busy dublin hosp) please don't think it is ok to abuse the staff who then have to call gardai. i don't care what you think of mary harney, she is not going to arrive to treat you and no she is not a doctor so please stop calling her!! there are people who are actually sick here and you are not helping them.

Thanks for mentioning this! The abuse we have to put up with every night but especially on the weekends is unreal

It is not our fault you were drunk and cut your hand, arm, head or whatever! We are not leaving you all sitting in reception while we're eating chocolate kimberely and having cups of coffee.We're actually rushed off our feets and if you eejits sat down and didn't cause a scene we'd be able to get to you quicker cos we wouldn't be wasting our time trying to calm yous down and shut you all up!

deadwood · 25-03-2009 04:47PM

DeVore wrote: »

Does anyone else get the feeling that Deadwood has to face a totally different set of problems to the rest of the Gardai on this thread....

DeV.

Like you wouldn't believe.

TheNog wrote: »

Never mind that its Mrs Deadwood who has the unique problems

Like trying to figure out why i'm putting on so much weight.
It's because Mrs Nog gives me a bun every time we do "grown-up hugs".:D

tommyhaas · 15-04-2009 10:10PM

Should be common knowledge but isint...illegal parking in disabled spots.

Not a huge issue, but typical of a reason why so many people resent the Garda. I was outside blackrock garda station earlier, and the one disabled parking spot was occupied by.......A garda car. Surely there can be no excuse other than lazyness for this. I know the garda probley have the right (by law)to park where ever they want to, but ffs surely they would have the decency to leave the disabled spot for someone in need of it.

...If common decency could prevail more often perhaps it would make your jobs that bit easier...

deadwood · 15-04-2009 10:19PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Should be common knowledge but isint...illegal parking in disabled spots.

Not a huge issue, but typical of a reason why so many people resent the Garda. I was outside blackrock garda station earlier, and the one disabled parking spot was occupied by.......A garda car. Surely there can be no excuse other than lazyness for this. I know the garda probley have the right (by law)to park where ever they want to, but ffs surely they would have the decency to leave the disabled spot for someone in need of it.

...If common decency could prevail more often perhaps it would make your jobs that bit easier...

I hope you went into the station/rang and reported this?

tommyhaas · 15-04-2009 11:06PM

I really wanted to, but I didnt think it was worth the hassel of having a Garda with a grudge against me. Would be just my luck to meet that Garda when my tax is a few days out of date

Hooch · 15-04-2009 11:23PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Should be common knowledge but isint...illegal parking in disabled spots.

Not a huge issue, but typical of a reason why so many people resent the Garda. I was outside blackrock garda station earlier, and the one disabled parking spot was occupied by.......A garda car. Surely there can be no excuse other than lazyness for this. I know the garda probley have the right (by law)to park where ever they want to, but ffs surely they would have the decency to leave the disabled spot for someone in need of it.

...If common decency could prevail more often perhaps it would make your jobs that bit easier...

Maybe if you take a step back and look at this. Maybe the car had a violent prisoner that had o be brought in the front for whjat ever reason, Maybe the patrol car was responding to an assistance call to the station???? First place will do for parking. It could be one of the many people who resent the Gardaí attacking the public officer in the station......and before you start a member of my family is disabled so your preaching to the choir on the parking issue.......but yes we are exempt from it and if it is nessessary to fulfill our policing role the we will park in these spots.

So many people resent the gardaí????:eek: How can you make sure a statement. Please please back it up cause everyday I was on the beat I got thousands of Hellos! Thats a sweeping statement.

Common decency....if this prevailed on a saturday night outside every nightclub in the country it would make our jobs a lot easier.

tommyhaas wrote: »

I really wanted to, but I didnt think it was worth the hassel of having a Garda with a grudge against me. Would be just my luck to meet that Garda when my tax is a few days out of date

Did something change that nobody told me about....is is not illegal anymore not to have tax on an MPV??

deadwood · 15-04-2009 11:31PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

I really wanted to, but I didnt think it was worth the hassel of having a Garda with a grudge against me. Would be just my luck to meet that Garda when my tax is a few days out of date

1. A quick call on the phone or in person pointing out the parking offence would have done. Nobody would insist on getting your name etc. Do you seriously think every guard in Blackrock/Dublin/Ireland would be thinking " that's yer man, the wheelchair spot guy" when your name and reg automatically popped up on our handheld radar and wireless p.c.'s?
2. People in glasshouses . . . .

brayblue24 · 16-04-2009 12:10AM

Sorry but I really needed to go....:D

(It wasn't me, honestly, I don't work there).

deadwood · 16-04-2009 09:54AM

Of course, we're assuming that none of the car occupants was a wheelchair user, elderly etc..

CharlieCroker · 16-04-2009 11:21AM

nice guy always wrote: »

Did something change that nobody told me about....is is not illegal anymore not to have tax on an MPV??

Whats an MPV??:D:D:D

Things that aren't common knowledge but should be!!!

tommyhaas · 16-04-2009 12:20PM

Firstly, I dont for a second think that 'every garda in the area would be out to get me' if I reported it, just that reporting it wouldnt do me any favours. Secondly, I think its quiet common for people to forget to renew their motor tax immediatly, particularly as in my own case I maybe away for up to 3 months at a time for work, hence not seeing my post. Maybe you were just made differently in templemore...

Of course I am aware that their could be an extremely valid reason for the car being their, but it didnt look all that hectic in the station at that time, surely some one would have moved it.

Im not trying to start a row here, but surely you have to admit resentment towards the Garda is quiet wide spread (been to Donegal recently??). Im not saying its everywhere, or always justified. My point with the previous post was that the car could have been moved by someone, in order to preserve good feeling people have towards the garda, and prevent further resentment from others.

donvito99 · 16-04-2009 12:55PM

If you mentioned it to the guards they would have moved it. All this stuff about the guards giving you grief if you did so is nonsense.

They have enough on their hands already to be holding grudges.

Whitewater-AGS · 16-04-2009 01:19PM

would you have rathered seen the car parked on the footpath or blocking up the road??

tommyhaas · 16-04-2009 01:20PM

Look, just making the point that I dont want to be labeled 'smart little f****r' etc' by them. And Im sure they would have moved it, but still wasent go'n to say anything, not my place to be saying it

would have been happier to see it in the private carpark they have there, or moved to another parking spot in the town asap

Hooch · 16-04-2009 01:40PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Firstly, I dont for a second think that 'every garda in the area would be out to get me' if I reported it, just that reporting it wouldnt do me any favours. Secondly, I think its quiet common for people to forget to renew their motor tax immediatly, particularly as in my own case I maybe away for up to 3 months at a time for work, hence not seeing my post. Maybe you were just made differently in templemore...

Of course I am aware that their could be an extremely valid reason for the car being their, but it didnt look all that hectic in the station at that time, surely some one would have moved it.

Im not trying to start a row here, but surely you have to admit resentment towards the Garda is quiet wide spread (been to Donegal recently??). Im not saying its everywhere, or always justified. My point with the previous post was that the car could have been moved by someone, in order to preserve good feeling people have towards the garda, and prevent further resentment from others.

So how would reporting the matter have ''not done you any favors''???

You think its quite common for people not to tax their car???? Justify comment please. Are you a Garda....work for motor taxation office. In my experience it is not quite common for people to forget their tax and if they do its still an offence. I tax my car. If i forgot i'd get a ticket.

How do you know the station wasnt hectic....did you go in??? (or were you made differently as you say and have xray vision)(i find your t/more comment quite offensive, every been there or studied there to back your comment up)

Yes i have been to donegal not so long ago. Never found a problem and never heard a member saying that ''God the resentment here is quite widespread''. The resentment you speak of is in one community, dont paint all of Donegal in a bad light.

djtechnics1210 · 16-04-2009 01:45PM

+1 nice guy

tommyhaas · 16-04-2009 02:37PM

yeah, firstly apologies about the templemore comment, was being a bit smart, and no never been to templemore, but I saw all the police academys! More seriously though, yea, I went in, I have been away with work and had to get certification that my car had been off the road, hence no road tax. As a seafarer and being away for long periods, I have to tax my car for the 3mths im on leave, so it expires as I go back to sea. Hence when I return from sea I have difficulty retaxing my car as it has been off the road and untaxed while im away.

Just to clarify the other point, im not implying resentment towards the Garda is everywhere, but I have found it to be quiet widespread in different parts of the country. Again, it is not always justified, but surely any serving garda would experience this from time to time. Also, I wasent saying all garda are like certain one's in Donegal, was just citing that as an example of resentment. I understand most Garda are honest and hardworking, but there is always going to be resentment against the Garda (or police in most countries). My point is that every effort should be made to limit this, making your job easier as more people will cooperate with and trust the Garda .

Noticed recently in New York, the NYPD have a "Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect" campaign ongoing, believe something similar here could be beneficial

Hooch · 16-04-2009 02:49PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

yeah, firstly apologies about the templemore comment, was being a bit smart, and no never been to templemore, but I saw all the police academys! More seriously though, yea, I went in, I have been away with work and had to get certification that my car had been off the road, hence no road tax. As a seafarer and being away for long periods, I have to tax my car for the 3mths im on leave, so it expires as I go back to sea. Hence when I return from sea I have difficulty retaxing my car as it has been off the road and untaxed while im away.

Just to clarify the other point, im not implying resentment towards the Garda is everywhere, but I have found it to be quiet widespread in different parts of the country. Again, it is not always justified, but surely any serving garda would experience this from time to time. Also, I wasent saying all garda are like certain one's in Donegal, was just citing that as an example of resentment. I understand most Garda are honest and hardworking, but there is always going to be resentment against the Garda (or police in most countries). My point is that every effort should be made to limit this, making your job easier as more people will cooperate with and trust the Garda .

Noticed recently in New York, the NYPD have a "Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect" campaign ongoing, believe something similar here could be beneficial

Apology accepted (although its a lot like Police Academy:)). Your car tax story is acceptable.

Yes we do get resentment, but normally from someone with an Axe to gring. To say resentment is widespread is totally inaccurate. AGS work quite hard to remain an unarmed force that relys on the community. Believe it or not but if we didnt police with the consent and help of the citzens of the state then we would be at a loss. Every effort is being made to remain a courteous service from small things like saying hello to the locals, calling to old people for the cupa tea to bigger ones like community policing projects.

In relation to the NYPD, was there for Paddys day. To be honest I found them very stand off ish until they found out I was a Garda. Very hard to talk to and approach but thats besides the point.

The main point here Tom is neither of us know why a Patrol car parked there. If i saw a member parking in a disabled space i'd hit the roof....as most members would. But the fact is they could have been dealing with a violent prisoner in the cell etc. You have to be an offical driver to move a patrol car (and in Dublin there are very few on a unit) so thats why someone else didnt move it.

brayblue24 · 16-04-2009 10:42PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Should be common knowledge but isint...illegal parking in disabled spots.

Not a huge issue, but typical of a reason why so many people resent the Garda. I was outside blackrock garda station earlier, and the one disabled parking spot was occupied by.......A garda car. Surely there can be no excuse other than lazyness for this. I know the garda probley have the right (by law)to park where ever they want to, but ffs surely they would have the decency to leave the disabled spot for someone in need of it.

...If common decency could prevail more often perhaps it would make your jobs that bit easier...

Lads, it may be time to lay off the chap here. He only posted it as he saw it and the comment about grudges was probably more about naivety than anything else. To be truthful most people that have the "grudge" theory that tommy has usually get it all second hand and made up anyway. The "holding a grudge" bit doesn't happen. It never did and there is an ombudsman now to ensure it won't happen. No need to get all defensive because we all know that the Guards posting here could be right and so could he. It might simply have been pure laziness and lack of thought on the patrol car driver's part.

I have a problem with anyone parking in disabled bays like I have a problem with anyone using a mobile phone while driving. Not all Guards that flout the latter are making emergency calls (as is legally permitted), they just don't think about what it might look like to others that expect us to set an example.

Hooch · 16-04-2009 10:57PM

brayblue24 wrote: »

Lads, it may be time to lay off the chap here. He only posted it as he saw it and the comment about grudges was probably more about naivety than anything else. To be truthful most people that have the "grudge" theory that tommy has usually get it all second hand and made up anyway. The "holding a grudge" bit doesn't happen. It never did and there is an ombudsman now to ensure it won't happen. No need to get all defensive because we all know that the Guards posting here could be right and so could he. It might simply have been pure laziness and lack of thought on the patrol car driver's part.

I have a problem with anyone parking in disabled bays like I have a problem with anyone using a mobile phone while driving. Not all Guards that flout the latter are making emergency calls (as is legally permitted), they just don't think about what it might look like to others that expect us to set an example.

Agreed

(although members are exempt from using their mobile phone in the course of their duties...not just emergency calls. Its the public that are exempt while making an emergency 999/112 call:D:D:D:D:D)

brayblue24 · 16-04-2009 11:07PM

nice guy always wrote: »

Agreed

(although members are exempt from using their mobile phone in the course of their duties...not just emergency calls. Its the public that are exempt while making an emergency 999/112 call:D:D:D:D:D)

I doff my hat sir for thou art indeed correct:)

Hooch · 16-04-2009 11:14PM

brayblue24 wrote: »

I doff my hat sir for thou are indeed correct:)

NGA.....sharing the knowledge:D

deadwood · 16-04-2009 11:21PM

nice guy always wrote: »

Agreed

(although members are exempt from using their mobile phone in the course of their duties...not just emergency calls. Its the public that are exempt while making an emergency 999/112 call:D:D:D:D:D)

Nicely back on topic too!

brayblue24 · 16-04-2009 11:28PM

nice guy always wrote: »

NGA.....sharing the knowledge:D

Ya can't beat the young 'uns for the knowledge. I always let someone else read the circular then give me the general jist of things. I have a reputation as a general waste of space to uphold you know!

Things you wish were common knowledge.... but aren't!

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