Giving money to homeless person

CamperMan · 04-03-2009 11:47PM

Reyansh Rapping Radial wrote: »

Yea, begging is really lazy, imagine the cheek of them to sit on their asses 8 - 10 hours a day asking strangers for their hard earned cash. Definately a lazy option. Considering I can hardly handle the cold air that blows up the liffey, how these people stand it all day long is beyond me.

when your pissed out of your head, you don't notice the cold!

mikemac · 04-03-2009 11:50PM

OP, over 10 billion and possibly close to 15 billion is spent on the DFSA.
And tens of millions more is given to Irish charities.

And you feel compelled to hand over money? And then complain after doing it.

I don't give money as the government does it for me from my 41% tax!

I don't know what the solution to homelessness is and I don't try to think of solutions. Social workers and policy directors do this for me

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 04-03-2009 11:54PM

CamperMan wrote: »

when your pissed out of your head, you don't notice the cold!

Not entirely true. They are not all pissed junkies... this is a steriotype.

mikemac wrote: »

OP, over 10 billion and possibly close to 15 billion is spent on the DFSA.
And tens of millions more is given to Irish charities.

And you feel compelled to hand over money? And then complain after doing it.

I don't give money as the government does it for me from my 41% tax!

I don't know what the solution to homelessness is and I don't try to think of solutions. Social workers and policy directors do this for me

He is not complaining about giving the money, did you read the OP or just skim over it? He is giving out about the homeless person throwing it back at him. Being ungratefull etc etc...

Abi · 04-03-2009 11:56PM

Iamxavier- you were a bit over reactive there. I know its not that easy, but it can be done, in steps- fuelled by determination.

LCDeelite · 04-03-2009 11:59PM

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Homeless people can indeed bbe very sharp when they dont get what they want

I saw this one woman begging so went over and gave her 1 euro. 'Here you go' I said. She roared at me 'It's 2 EURO!!!'. Apparantly she was selling Big issues, which I hadnt seen up until that point.

I was so shocked, I ended up quickly giving her another euro.

I would have just stalked off without giving her a cent. If that's the state of her 'sales technique' in shifting units of Big Issue magazines, she should be duly ignored, the eejit.

LCDeelite · 05-03-2009 12:01AM

WTF has that inane picture of that inane-looking woman above got to do with the topic of this thread??

Weird.

Abi · 05-03-2009 12:05AM

LCDeelite wrote: »

WTF has that inane picture of that inane-looking woman above got to do with the topic of this thread??

Weird.

Um. Do you mean insane?!

Thats me. Im telling on you.

CreepingDeath · 05-03-2009 12:05AM

Abigayle wrote: »

My brother stopped to give a guy money, who slyly showed him a knife. He went home phoneless, iPodless and walletless.

Your brother traded all his possessions in for your mans knife ?
I could've got him a better deal than that, they're only a tenner in some gadget websites.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 12:06AM

Abigayle wrote: »

Iamxavier- you were a bit over reactive there. I know its not that easy, but it can be done, in steps- fuelled by determination.

Which part of my post is an over reaction? It can be done. Definately, but not all can be helped, would be impossible.

LCDeelite wrote: »

WTF has that inane picture of that inane-looking woman above got to do with the topic of this thread??

Weird.

It is her signature :P There is a line above the picture...

Gummy Panda · 05-03-2009 12:09AM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

They do be around in the day-time too you know, they're not the bogeyman.

O RLY?

I think daylight, crowds of people and a more noticeable garda presence cuts down on the chances of being attacked.

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 12:13AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

O RLY?

I think daylight, crowds of people and a more noticeable garda presence cuts down on the chances of being attacked.

Have you been attacked by a homeless person?

gandhi123 · 05-03-2009 12:16AM

Ya should of just done this :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXNhycMX_M

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 05-03-2009 12:18AM

Madalynn Wide Pin wrote: »

It was something like ten cent or so, but the fella picked it out of his cup and threw it at me calling me a ****.

He probably gets it all the time from drunken college students... scoffing D4 heads leafing through notes and rummaging around coin-filled pockets only to give him a 1c coin for the laugh.
"Dewn't spend ish awl in the one shop roysh?"
There are probably a lot of sarky bastards out there, I can see how he'd be a bit sensitive to it.

Abi · 05-03-2009 12:20AM

Reyansh Rapping Radial wrote: »

Which part of my post is an over reaction? It can be done. Definately, but not all can be helped, would be impossible.

But.. Fock. MmnyeahK. Theres only so far ya can go with this one.

Gummy Panda · 05-03-2009 12:20AM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Have you been attacked by a homeless person?

Are you saying I have to put my hand in the fire to know it'll get burnt?

lets recap:

Sir Gallagher wrote:

Most homeless people have real issues, psychological problems, alcholism drug addiction as well as being poorly educated, they have no other option than to beg.

I think its pretty easy to spot that some of the homeless around the city centre aren't of sound mind, especially at night when they are drinking/drug taking to even get asleep or drone out their plight.

sHnaCk · 05-03-2009 12:25AM

EVERY single monday night while most of us are tucked up with our puters talking and typing away there is a team of about 12 people (it varies each week due to different comittments) that do the "bus" route with soup and sandwiches for the forgotten humans on Dublins streets. Until you have been with these people, cried with these people, hurt with these people, fed these people and prayed with these people it is better that you take the D4 shoe out of your behind and your mouth and just help. thats all. just help. your derision is uneducated and not necessary. remember, law requires... grace enables.
If you really wanna help get to the old labour exchange (it is being transformed into a church) at 19h:45 on a monday evening and change who you are!

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 05-03-2009 12:27AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

crowds of people

Crowds of people are useless tbh, you could be pinned against a wall by four skangers with concealed knives demanding your cash and nobody would even notice... or intervene if they did.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 12:29AM

Abigayle wrote: »

But.. Fock. MmnyeahK. Theres only so far ya can go with this one.

You could try making some sense. Maybe you could explain yourself so I can too? You are talking rubbish right now... sorry.

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 12:38AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Are you saying I have to put my hand in the fire to know it'll get burnt?

lets recap:

I think its pretty easy to spot that some of the homeless around the city centre aren't of sound mind, especially at night when they are drinking/drug taking to even get asleep or drone out their plight.

You're making excuses not to give to the less fortunate due to ignorance and misplaced fear.

Gummy Panda · 05-03-2009 12:50AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Give money to people with psychological, alcholism and drug problems.. eh no. I'll give it to a charity but i wouldn't endanger myself by interacting with a homeless person late at night in town.

Sure i won't use an ATM with a homeless person sitting at it because it feels unsafe.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

You're making excuses not to give to the less fortunate due to ignorance and misplaced fear.

Yes clearly I'm making excuses rather then pulling you up on asking people do they know what homeless people 'want' then advising them to give them money directly.

Abi · 05-03-2009 12:58AM

Reyansh Rapping Radial wrote: »

You could try making some sense. Maybe you could explain yourself so I can too? You are talking rubbish right now... sorry.

Lol. Sorry, why did you say that?

In case I wasnt clear in my last post, I was opting out. Respecting others disagreement with me.

I just dont want to go on with it, Id rather get lamped by Brian Cowen than listen to anymore of this shyte.

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 01:02AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yes clearly I'm making excuses rather then pulling you up on asking people do they know what homeless people 'want' then advising them to give them money directly.

So in your eyes nobody should give money directly to a homeless person?

Gummy Panda · 05-03-2009 01:07AM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

So in your eyes nobody should give money directly to a homeless person?

Exactly.

I'd rather see that money go to charity designed to help homeless people and give them the resources to get off the streets.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 01:07AM

Abigayle wrote: »

Lol. Sorry, why did you say that?

In case I wasnt clear in my last post, I was opting out. Respecting others disagreement with me.

I just dont want to go on with it, Id rather get lamped by Brian Cowen than listen to anymore of this shyte.

Jesus ya must be desperate, do ya not see the state of him? Anyway, it's a debate, nothing more.. you are entitled to your opinion and all that. Nobodies going to fall out over it

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

So in your eyes nobody should give money directly to a homeless person?

Would be a good idea. The less you give directly to them the less they have to spend on substances that are not helping them. If you want to give them money, ask them if they are hungry, buy them a drink and a sandwich. If they need money for a hostel and you have it, book them into a hostel. Best not to give them the cash...

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 01:10AM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Exactly.

I'd rather see that money go to charity designed to help homeless people and give them the resources to get off the streets.

It just doesn't work like that though unfortunately.

What charity do you give to then as a matter of interest?

Abi · 05-03-2009 01:19AM

Reyansh Rapping Radial wrote: »

Jesus ya must be desperate, do ya not see the state of him? Anyway, it's a debate, nothing more.. you are entitled to your opinion and all that. Nobodies going to fall out over it

Gad forbid I fall out with the internet.

*licks Brian Cowen poster*

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 01:36AM

Reyansh Rapping Radial wrote: »

Jesus ya must be desperate, do ya not see the state of him? Anyway, it's a debate, nothing more.. you are entitled to your opinion and all that. Nobodies going to fall out over it

Would be a good idea. The less you give directly to them the less they have to spend on substances that are not helping them. If you want to give them money, ask them if they are hungry, buy them a drink and a sandwich. If they need money for a hostel and you have it, book them into a hostel. Best not to give them the cash...

To be honest with you Xavier i personally don't mind if they spend it on drink, i'm a realist, whatever gets them through gets them through and if its a couple of cans or whatever then so be it, thats all the help that some of them will get.

I know that i've hit the drink in times of need and i've also done a few recreationals in my time(more so for the craic). So i cant judge. It's not the right way of dealing with your problems admittedly but for these people they've no other options.

zuroph · 05-03-2009 01:39AM

Giving homeless people money only causes more homeless beggars and trouble on our streets. You shouldnt give them anything.

PROVE ME WRONG AH, PROVE ME WRONG!

Sir Gallagher · 05-03-2009 01:40AM

zuroph wrote: »

Giving homeless people money only causes more homeless beggars and trouble on our streets. You shouldnt give them anything.

PROVE ME WRONG AH, PROVE ME WRONG!

Yeah more and more people are becoming attracted to the lifestyle! :rolleyes:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-03-2009 01:44AM

zuroph wrote: »

Giving homeless people money only causes more homeless beggars and trouble on our streets. You shouldnt give them anything.

PROVE ME WRONG AH, PROVE ME WRONG!

GTFO... What would you know? Nothing... noting at all...

I love all these keyboard warriors, do this, do that, bla bla bla, but do any of ye actually do anything about it? Nope.. you don't.. Typical. :rolleyes:

Giving money to homeless person

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