Gay people being "Gay"?

sassa · 15-02-2009 01:35AM

jackpalance wrote: »

Yeah, well we can't all have your gag reflex.

Or your wit obviously:rolleyes:

spoonbadger · 15-02-2009 02:01AM

Normally i hate any kind of stereotyping,but i honestly think alot of the gay images seem to hold true.

For example, the idea of gays as being girly, pink, fluffy etc. I hate painting people with the same brush,but it really is true. I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay

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rainbow kirby · 15-02-2009 02:17AM

spoonbadger wrote: »

For example, the idea of gays as being girly, pink, fluffy etc. I hate painting people with the same brush,but it really is true. I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay .

Not every gay male is uber-effeminate, while the stereotype is quite common there are plenty (particularly off-scene) who aren't even slightly camp.

anotherlostie · 15-02-2009 02:20AM

spoonbadger wrote: »

Normally i hate any kind of stereotyping,but i honestly think alot of the gay images seem to hold true.

For example, the idea of gays as being girly, pink, fluffy etc. I hate painting people with the same brush,but it really is true. I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay .

That is the most stupid comment I think I have ever read on this site, and that is saying something! There are loads of stunning feminine lesbians out there, and blokes that are just blokes, except when it comes to what turns their head in a bar.

Ever think that the reason you've never met the guy who isn't obviously gay is because that aspect of his life was none of your business, and because he didn't tick any gay boxes for you, your gaydar didn't go off?

The_Minister · 15-02-2009 02:25AM

I know what the OP is refferring to, and it pisses me off as well.

What annoys me is that they put it on, and then when they forget they start acting alot less flamboyant.

Then they realise, and start acting again.

spoonbadger · 15-02-2009 02:27AM

anotherlostie wrote: »

That is the most stupid comment I think I have ever read on this site, and that is saying something! There are loads of stunning feminine lesbians out there, and blokes that are just blokes, except when it comes to what turns their head in a bar.

Ever think that the reason you've never met the guy who isn't obviously gay is because that aspect of his life was none of your business, and because he didn't tick any gay boxes for you, your gaydar didn't go off?

Eh, steady on.

First of all, i never mentioned lesbians, not once. Any i've known have seemed outwardly no different.

Secondly, i did *not* say there are no such things as subltey gay guys. I said in my experience, they usually aren't, and given that any i know do appear more effiminate, i stand by everything i said in my last post.

Thirdly, i didnt say it was "any of my business". It's not like go around poking into peoples personal lives. I'm guessing neither do you, even though you just made you're soap-box speech.

Lastly, i didn't say it was a bad thing, i showed no opinion on it either way and was as fooking sensitive in the way i worded that as possible.

But hey!.Thanks for singling me out, and flaming me, in a thread on gay behaviour. I'll give you a PM next time i put any 4 sentences together, ok?!.

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Not every gay male is uber-effeminate, while the stereotype is quite common there are plenty (particularly off-scene) who aren't even slightly camp.

I dont doubt it, but it just seems a little more common than i would've expected.

anotherlostie · 15-02-2009 02:35AM

spoonbadger wrote: »

Eh, steady on.

First of all, i never mentioned lesbians, not once. Any i've known have seemed outwardly no different.

Secondly, i did *not* say there are no such things as subltey gay guys. I said in my experience, they usually aren't, and given that any i know do appear more effiminate, i stand by everything i said in my last post.

Thirdly, i didnt say it was "any of my business". It's not like go around poking into peoples personal lives. I'm guessing neither do you, even though you just made you're soap-box speech.

Lastly, i didn't say it was a bad thing, i showed no opinion on it either way and was as fooking sensitive in the way i worded that as possible.

But hey!.Thanks for singling me out, and flaming me, in a thread on gay behaviour. I'll give you a PM next time i put any 4 sentences together, ok?!.

I dont doubt it, but it just seems a little more common than i would've expected.

You have backtracked a lot from what you said first time, i.e. that a lot of stereotypes were true like being girly, pink etc. Your initial post suggests all gay guys are obviously gay, but now you acknowledge this is not the case. I wish I had this power of persuasion all the time, and will bear in mind the PM option for again.

spoonbadger · 15-02-2009 02:46AM

anotherlostie wrote: »

You have backtracked a lot from what you said first time, i.e. that a lot of stereotypes were true like being girly, pink etc. Your initial post suggests all gay guys are obviously gay, but now you acknowledge this is not the case. I wish I had this power of persuasion all the time, and will bear in mind the PM option for again.

Wow. What excellent analysis/reading skills you have. You have managed to dispute an off-the-cuff post on an internet forum posted by someone at 1.30am after a few drinks. You should truly be proud. Maybe you should turn your skills to disputing philosophy theories, or argueing 100 page thesis on sexuality, or just about any *other* medium where you can stroke your ego and fulfill your need for pointless argument.

I still stand by what i said; gay guys are frequently more effiminate, not necessarily a bad thing. There are many people out there who have much stronger, and much more negative opinions on homosexuality. Are you going to take them on too?. Or do you just enjoy wasting *my* time specifically.

I really dont care as much as you seem to. i'm going to bed, have a nice life argumenative stranger.

DeVore · 15-02-2009 03:26AM

spoonbadger wrote: »

Normally i hate any kind of stereotyping,but i honestly think alot of the gay images seem to hold true.

For example, the idea of gays as being girly, pink, fluffy etc. I hate painting people with the same brush,but it really is true. I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay .

If you only identify people as "gay" if they act like that then by definition every gay person you know will act like that. Its circular logic.

Perhaps a better question might be why 5-10% of your friends havent felt comfortable telling you they are gay....

DeV.

Dirtt_Diver · 15-02-2009 03:30AM

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jaffa20 · 15-02-2009 03:43AM

spoonbadger wrote: »

Normally i hate any kind of stereotyping,but i honestly think alot of the gay images seem to hold true.

For example, the idea of gays as being girly, pink, fluffy etc. I hate painting people with the same brush,but it really is true. I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay .

That is a ridiculous comment. I am gay but i am not camp. Many people are shocked when i tell them if i am. How can you say it is really true that all gays are girly if it is only the girly ones that you assume to be gay. Anyway, an effeminate nature can be seen in straight guys too. Of course, they will be naturally gay in your eyes because it is "really true"

tech77 · 15-02-2009 03:46AM

Fago_25 wrote: »

Ha i'm not gay, but people do think this.

I'm not. have a GF.

2 denials of homosexuality in one post.
Eh, right... not gay.
Hmmm...

DeVore · 15-02-2009 03:53AM

thread aint about OP's sexuality.

DeV.

Sammag · 15-02-2009 03:56AM

jaffa20 wrote: »

That is a ridiculous comment. I am gay but i am not camp. Many people are shocked when i tell them if i am. How can you say it is really true that all gays are girly if it is only the girly ones that you assume to be gay. Anyway, an effeminate nature can be seen in straight guys too. Of course, they will be naturally gay in your eyes because it is "really true"

I agree, I have two very close friends who are gay and you wouldn't have a clue unless they specifically told you. There are plenty of gay men and women out there who are not camp and flamboyant in their nature.

randylonghorn · 15-02-2009 04:32AM

Terry wrote: »

Really? I thought they were a sub-species. A genetic impurity. A Darwinian weakest of the species who are unable to procreate and thus will not survive.

Then I realised I was wrong.

Nope, they're the planet's attempt to curb over-population!!!1! Give it another couple of generations, and only 5-10% of us will be straight!! :pac:

spoonbadger wrote: »

I've yet to meet a gay guy is isn't outwardly,obviously gay .

You've met loads of them, dude, you just haven't realised!

DeVore wrote: »

If you only identify people as "gay" if they act like that then by definition every gay person you know will act like that. Its circular logic.

Perhaps a better question might be why 5-10% of your friends havent felt comfortable telling you they are gay...

True .. and because most people don't come out while they're still at school?

randylonghorn · 15-02-2009 04:37AM

Terry wrote: »

Some of them you would never know were gay and others are of the flamboyant type. The latter being extremely irritating.

I actually can't disagree with that. What's more, one of my best friends grew up gay, and he'd quietly say the same.

Still, different strokes for different folks!

Terry wrote: »

Yeah, you suck cock. Well done. We don't want to hear about it.

In fairness, go into any pub and listen to the more immature guys boasting about how much pussy they're (not) getting!!

zuchum · 15-02-2009 04:59AM

OP, your problem isn't anything to do with homosexuality, but the fact that some people are just jerks.

science fact

acid.rain · 15-02-2009 06:28AM

are you referring to being "flaming gay" or flamboyance?

Aidric · 15-02-2009 12:04PM

Fago_25 wrote: »

I'm not. have a GF.

Gay 'friend'?

Fago! · 15-02-2009 12:05PM

acid.rain wrote: »

are you referring to being "flaming gay" or flamboyance?

Flaming Gay. I should have worded it better. Sorry about that.

zuchum wrote: »

OP, your problem isn't anything to do with homosexuality, but the fact that some people are just jerks.

science fact

Thats a damn good point.

Peopl are making excellen points here.

And for everyone else, Im not gay. if i was gay, id say. I wouldn't hide it. Theres no shame in it .

The thread wasn't about my sexuality, and if I was gay, would it matter??? If i wanted to start a "I think i'm gay" thread and have everyone say "You're so Gay Etc...", then i would have. The comments in this thead are so off topic. (Edit: There are alot more on topic comments then i first saw. Keep 'em comin)

But still, Keep to topic. I don't want any more, "Hiding something OP???" comments.

DeVore · 15-02-2009 01:34PM

Ok, I agree in a sense.

I really dislike people who are "false". Any form of affectation or foppishness. But that doesnt correlate with sexuality. I shared a flat with a guy who was gay who was really anti that sort of thing, and his boyfriend is an MMA cage fighter. I dare you to go up to him and tell him he's a "poof"

Look, lets face it. No one likes affectations. No one likes people who put on airs or graces. Ever seen someone who was born poor but finds wealth and suddenly turns into a toff? I want to punch them.

Does anyone really connect this dislike to what gender that person has in bed with them?

Really?

DeV.

Agent Smith · 15-02-2009 01:36PM

Fago_25 wrote: »

Does anybody else feel this way?

A few gay people i know are very nice and aren't like this and I am in no way homo-phobic! (I actually helped someone who was in doubt, come out). But what I don't like about nearly every gay person i meet (more men then women) is the fact that they insist on letting EVERYONE know they're gay with a flamboyant outspoken persona.

For instance (Actually this happened on several occasions), I was walking down the street and a guy I knew was with a few girls (Friends) And he insisted on prancing around like an idiot ballet dancer and shouting to EVERYONE he saw "Hey sexy, fancy s**king my C**k?? I can show you a good time... Yeah I'd say you'd take it up the........" Etc... More sexual profanities. Like, did they need to act like this???

This sparked my anger through watching Julian Clary and Alan Carr on telly and when i was in a pub in ringsend a while ago, there was a comedian playing, whose act was to act gay and tell rude "Blue" jokes and take the piss out of people. "James Brown" was his name. He pulled me up on stage and started rippin the piss out of my cause i look like Buddy Holly. (Which was the only funny thing of the night) If you have to be that way to get laughs, you're a pretty gick comedian.

The flamboyant attitude annoys me because, it seems like they are acting this way, just to get attention!! FINE If you're gay, you're gay. STOP ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE!!!!

I'm not painting all gays with the same brush, just those who act this way.

Anybody feel the same way, or do I just know a bunch of Assholes?

this post is so gay, its trying to have sex with all your other gay posts

Dr_Teeth · 15-02-2009 01:53PM

The Onion is there

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33540

Terry · 15-02-2009 02:10PM

DeVore wrote: »

Ok, I agree in a sense.

I really dislike people who are "false". Any form of affectationor foppishness. But that doesnt correlate with sexuality. I shared a flat with a guy who was gay who was really anti that sort of thing, and his boyfriend is an MMA cage fighter. I dare you to go up to him and tell him he's a "poof"

Look, lets face it. No one likes affectations. No one likes people who put on airs or graces. Ever seen someone who was born poor but finds wealth and suddenly turns into a toff? I want to punch them.

Does anyone really connect this dislike to what gender that person has in bed with them?

Really?

DeV.

Half the population during the Celtic tiger then?

BeerWolf · 15-02-2009 02:17PM

I'm no homophobe, but I honestly can't stand the overly feminine gay men... you know those - the ones that are MORE feminine than actual women?

Arathorn · 15-02-2009 02:21PM

its funny because the people hate this the most are str8 accting gays, they feel they are giving being gay a bad rep

15-02-2009 02:31PM

Maybe it's because most gay people have to hide their identity from the ages 12-18, so when they actually come out, they overcompensate by being a little too ... expressive?

tech77 · 15-02-2009 03:00PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

I'm no homophobe, but I honestly can't stand the overly feminine gay men... you know those - the ones that are MORE feminine than actual women?

Never start a post with "i'm no ---, but"

I agree though, it can be bloody annoying.

KnifeWRENCH · 15-02-2009 04:26PM

Fago_25 wrote: »

For instance (Actually this happened on several occasions), I was walking down the street and a guy I knew was with a few girls (Friends) And he insisted on prancing around like an idiot ballet dancer and shouting to EVERYONE he saw "Hey sexy, fancy s**king my C**k?? I can show you a good time... Yeah I'd say you'd take it up the........" Etc... More sexual profanities. Like, did they need to act like this???

Well he just sounds like a complete twat, but that's not due to him being gay.
Some gays are effeminate and flamboyant, some aren't. Those that are effeminate and flamboyant are not necessarily like that idiot asking strangers "ooh you want my cock?".
Campness doesn't really annoy me that much - some people just can't help being that way. But when it becomes excessive and too "in-your-face" that can be extremely irritating, and I understand you being annoyed by it. Thankfully, from my experience, most gay guys aren't like that.

DeVore · 15-02-2009 06:43PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

I'm no homophobe, but I honestly can't stand the overly feminine gay men... you know those - the ones that are MORE feminine than actual women?

But you are missing my point (I dont speak for anyone else).

I dislike PEOPLE with affectations. What gender the person they are sexually attracted to is TOTALLY not the issue at all. I think the OP should have put it that way.

But now this thread serves a higher purpose imho, it now serves to direct that dislike (which many people feel) away from stereotyped groups like "gay" etc... and more accurately towards the group: "people who put on affectations".... who could be gay straight black white whatever.

Everyone should be more accurate with their language otherwise you sound like a prejudiced git tbh.

DeV.

Gay people being "Gay"?

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