garda methods- judge carney

Now this is a topic worth a good rant, shame I can't think of much just at the moment.

Why should it all come down to the Gardai? Why are they the ones that have to fix all our problems?

Parents should have a role in disciplining their own children, and I don't just mean the ones growing up now. If they did that, and not this softly kid glove ****, they may grow up behaving a bit better.

Having said that, I'm not a glowing saint, yes, I have done silly things that are against the law. Do I respect the Gardai? Yes, more or less. I respect what they are supposed to do. Am i repectable and polite to them? Yes. But I do have less respect for certain ones in the locality as they are a bunch of wasters.

Would Gardai giving some young thug a clout for doing something wrong put him on a path to right and civility? Not any more. The country has gone too far past that. Now he would just knife the Garda, or hold a grudge and "get him again."

What we need to do is help the Gardai! Lack of funding, as mentioned, lack of respect which is what this thread "was" about, and lack of support is crippling them.

Whats the point in them killing themselves catching Anto the granny killing drug dealing career criminal if the sentencing system lets them out in 9 months, with 3 months suspended, and early release if he doesn't hurt anyone? Sentence the people they catch, and make the sentence stick. Don't let people of on a technicality. So what if he shot someone point blank in the face, if technically they said he was wearing a black jumper and he was wearing a navy one.

They've had their funding cut. Great. We have a country going downhill, crime going up, and the ones doing their best to stem the tide have even less resources to do their job. Course I can see the sense there. Ok, I will assume some has been misspent, as all moneys have been in the last 15 years, but christ, give them what they need.

I have very good experiences with the guards (except for one case of a drunk driving guard in civilian clothes who threatened me). I mostly find them respectful and dedicated. When I needed them because of a break-in, stolen car or to report an accident the follow up was always spot on.

When my mother in law was held by two guys that broke into her house and held her for several hours, the follow up to catch the guys and the way they were supportive to her for weeks after was seriously good.

On another occasion I suspect that when they caught the guys that broke into my house and stole my motorbike, the guards had to be very "persuasive" to find out who the bike was passed on to because it was a pretty nasty gang that used it to rob a couple of banks and they were scared to tell (I am glad they got a good shaking).

So, overall, I have a lot of respect for the guards. I think it might be a two way thing...

There seems to be some consensus that drugs are one of the main problems for the gardai and the public. At the bottom of this problem are two drivers: the addicts "need to get it at any cost" and the dealers want for the profit this need generates.

Solution: give the drugs to anyone clinically diagnosed as addicted for free (they actually cost very little). Dealers run out of profit sources, addicts don't need to commit crimes to fund their habit.

I'm sure we'll have the usual mouthpieces and scumbags ranting on here about how the gards are gobsh!tes but the fact is they do the best they can. IMO 99% of gards are decent normal people just trying to do a thankless job and 99% of people who abuse them are the kind of dirty parasitic scumbag wasters that the community can do without.

Judge carney might have praised the likes of Lugs but how many times has a gard arrested someone, spent countless hours compiling evidence and then had some limp wet fuk of a judge give a suspended sentence or small fine when the perp deserves years behind bars? You may as well just throw it all back in the gards face. But wait, you cant get rid of a sh!t judge, You cant even have them removed if they're a peadophile. They even get to keep their pensions.

Or what about lawyers that get dirtbirds off because of a spelling mistake or something similar even though there is a mountain of evidence? Or play down the crime to the last to get lesser sentences. These lawyers are in effect covering up crimes and should be jailed themselves.

Then we get the "poor me" stories about broken homes and substance abuse, disadvantaged areas etc etc ad nauseum.

B OLLOX.

Plenty of people come from broken homes, plenty come from disadvantaged areas and plenty use/abuse whatever they use but only filthy fkn scum commit crimes against the rest of us.

And as for this case in navan being more methods?? methods of what?? someone gets slaughtered drunk in the middle of a working day and dies of suspected alcohol poisoning in police custody and the gards are to blame??? what about the cnt of a barman who kept serving him? or was he a victim of the system too? If he died on the street would you blame the county council? no , wait, you'd blame the traffic cops.

The problem with the law in this country isn't the gards , its sh!te judges, corrupt lawyers and above all the PC brigade that sympathise with scum and make sure that they get their own fkng pathetic ideals set down for the rest of us to abide by. They make sure that the scum never have to take responsibilty for their actions.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

End of rant

Morlar wrote: »

I am not a member of An Garda Siochana.

You are an idiot.

Banned.

No citizen should be allowed to assault another. Ever. For any reason.
In the course of their duties, Gardai may have to use force, yes. But to openly assault people on the streets because of what they think of them? F#ck that!

I dont know about everyone else here, but if I was assaulted by anyone, including a garda, and felt there was no possibility of legal recourse, then I would be forced to find physical recourse... And I'm a middle class PAYE earner. Think what the professional scumbags would get up to!

A spiral into chaos. The gardai should act professional, and within the law. The laws should be fair on all. They should protect the weak, and punish the criminals. I am not willing to live in a police state to achieve that. So that's where we find ourselves: finding a balance between liveability and security.