Hiberno-English

Honey-ec · 03-12-2008 12:56PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

My mother in law (Not that i listen to her much) keeps saying Wogeous" as in the weather was Wogeous today" or "the traffic was Wogeous"

Is that actually a word?

It's a perfectly cromulent word...

Dave! · 03-12-2008 01:01PM

Greetings include:

"Alroii?"
" W'sa craic?"
"What's the story?"

asdasd · 03-12-2008 01:03PM

I always liked the Dublin greeting of Head

Confuses the bejayus out of some.

r3nu4l · 03-12-2008 01:33PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

My mother in law (Not that i listen to her much) keeps saying Wogeous" as in the weather was Wogeous today" or "the traffic was Wogeous"

Is that actually a word?

She is likely mispronouncing a middle-English word 'odious', used by a lot of Irish people. It means something that causes feelings of hatred or repugnance/disgust...it can also mean arousing but not in the sexual sense, mainly in the sense of 'arousing' negative emotion.

pawrick · 17-01-2009 12:00AM

phantom_lord wrote: »

no one under 60 uses either of these

ha I still do!!! but not that often any more - too much confusion

iPlop · 17-01-2009 01:27AM

"Giz a blo o' yer joint or I'll kick deh bollix off yeh"
"Fcukin' recession ,deh dole won't be as good as it was durin' deh boom"
"Any odds fer deh bus ,I need to get a new hoodie an give someone a straightner on deh 77A"

iv'e said it befor and i'll say it again

ejmaztec · 17-01-2009 01:59AM

Why do some people say "I worked there with two weeks" instead of " I worked there for two weeks"?

What kind of madness is this? (or is that Kerry thing again?)

Holsten · 17-01-2009 02:09AM

Wa? Never in my life heard someone say that.

Deffo bogger thing.

ahmed89 · 17-01-2009 02:43AM

"bleeeedin eejit"
ahhhh love irish english

ahmed89 · 17-01-2009 02:44AM

Dave! wrote: »

Greetings include:

"Alroii?"
" W'sa craic?"
"What's the story?"

also "well boy?"

chosen1 · 17-01-2009 03:36AM

Minerals still used by us boggers in Longford anyway.

Have also heard it in the north county Dublin where there's mineral bars at teen discos

KingLoser · 17-01-2009 07:39AM

Holy Christ on a bike, never ask to bum a fag in 'merica, these queer fellas be wearin' the make-up and makin the funnys at ya.

Well boi, are we baytin on down to da chipper for a feed'a scallops?

cmn89 · 19-01-2009 02:55AM

mikemac wrote: »

What about red lemonade? Do they not have it? :eek:

In a pub in London asked for red lemonade and malibu, bar man goes whats that, I was like white lemonade except its red, he never heard of it!!

Was odrering a ham and cheese toastie in Manchester your one couldnt understand me, i repeated myself about 5 times, i thought she was foriegn but appearently I was speaking too fast??!!!

Quazzie · 19-01-2009 09:55AM

A real culchie one that I've heard (and said) lots of times, but never knew what it is supposed to be.

"I've nare a cent on me"

Can anyone confirm what this is supposed to be? I know it means that I have no money on me, but I've heard it loads in other contexts too but never knew where this came from or what word it derived from.

The Sweeper · 19-01-2009 10:13AM

Haven't read the whole thread, so dunno if someone else has told this already:

Urban myth story, lecturer in Oxford University addressing a lecture hall of English students, on double negatives and double positives, and the use of postives with negatives and so on.

Upshot is he's describing how a double positive remains a positive, a positive with a negative equals a negative ("I will not go"); a double negative is a positive, but then he states clearly that there is no language in the world where a double positive is ever equal to a negative, ever, ever, never.

And a resounding Irish accent rings out:

"Yeah. Right."

Stench Blossoms · 19-01-2009 10:14AM

When I was living in London I used to get stick for saying "Will I do that?" instead of "Shall I do that?". The answer I got everytime was "I dunno, will you?".

Fratton Fred · 19-01-2009 10:40AM

cmn89 wrote: »

In a pub in London asked for red lemonade and malibu, bar man goes whats that, I was like white lemonade except its red, he never heard of it!!

Red lemonade is unique to ireland i believe, plus putting it with Malibu is disgusting, so its no wonder he questioned you.

GenghisCon · 19-01-2009 12:20PM

The funny thing is that some of what we would categorize as Hiberno-english are actually elements assimilated from other languages and do not originate in the Gaelic.

It seems that "ye" came to use in Ireland through English settlers and "gorsoon" (now thats a Munster culchie gem! meaning a small child) from the French).

My personal favorite: "...is a fright to God."

Only the Irish would view something so bad that it would make an omnipotent being be fearful.

asdasd · 19-01-2009 12:24PM

It seems that "ye" came to use in Ireland through English settlers

Yes. As did some of the strange prronounciations in Munster ( mostly died out ) where the ea is a long a, not a ee: i.e. beat is pronounced bate, not beet. Shakespeare worked both ways rhyming please with knees and please with trays.

yay_for_summer · 19-01-2009 12:42PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why do some people say "I worked there with two weeks" instead of " I worked there for two weeks"?

What kind of madness is this? (or is that Kerry thing again?)

Ohoh! I say this and have been given out to over it! But it sounds right...and I'm not from Kerry.

Also, the use of "era" or "dhera" as Gaeilge. Great word.

Rsaeire · 19-01-2009 01:26PM

"G'way outta dat wud ya?" = "Would you go away?" i.e. I don't believe you.
"I was only taking da piss" = "I was only joking".
"Gis a smoke will ya?" = "Could you give me a cigarette?"
"What's the craic?" = "How are you?/Any news?"

ejmaztec · 19-01-2009 01:59PM

yay_for_summer wrote: »

Ohoh! I say this and have been given out to over it! But it sounds right...and I'm not from Kerry.

Also, the use of "era" or "dhera" as Gaeilge. Great word.

And you've been "given out to" as well? :pac:

also, when drivers "overtake" a car in Ireland, they "pass them out". It sounds more like "collapsing in the street".

Monkey61 · 19-01-2009 02:16PM

Minesajackdaniels wrote: »

Haven't read the whole thread, so dunno if someone else has told this already:

Urban myth story, lecturer in Oxford University addressing a lecture hall of English students, on double negatives and double positives, and the use of postives with negatives and so on.

Upshot is he's describing how a double positive remains a positive, a positive with a negative equals a negative ("I will not go"); a double negative is a positive, but then he states clearly that there is no language in the world where a double positive is ever equal to a negative, ever, ever, never.

And a resounding Irish accent rings out:

"Yeah. Right."

That's in a Ross O Carroll Kelly book as well

Fratton Fred · 19-01-2009 03:21PM

My previous boss politely explained to an American consultant we had that it was probably best if he didn't tell the taxi driver he was phoning that he "Needed a Ride"

Acacia · 19-01-2009 03:36PM

I was sitting outside with my Canadian relatives, when they asked if I was cold, I replied,

"No, I'm grand, I have me jumper."

They were like this

so I had to translate - "I'm fine, I'm wearing my sweater." :pac:

Darkbloom · 19-01-2009 03:41PM

"Axe" for "ask".

The use of ride as both noun and verb in a non-equestrian context, as in "he's a total ride", "fancy a ride"?

Starting sentences with "sure" - I get comments on this a lot.

We used to say "shift" for kiss in Offaly as well.

redfacedbear · 19-01-2009 04:02PM

Using 'may' as an imperative - as in

'You may go on your break now'

Which does not mean you have permission to go, it means begone!

My midlands boss confused the hell out of me with that before I copped on what she meant. I hear it a lot down here in Wex too.

ejmaztec · 19-01-2009 04:27PM

"A scissors" instead of "A pair of scissors".

chosen1 · 19-01-2009 06:40PM

A real culchie one that I've heard (and said) lots of times, but never knew what it is supposed to be.

"I've nare a cent on me"

Can anyone confirm what this is supposed to be? I know it means that I have no money on me, but I've heard it loads in other contexts too but never knew where this came from or what word it derived from.

Its Elizabethan English that still survives to an extent in Ireland.
Ne'er a cent as you say comes from a shortened form of never. Can be heard in common english also in calling someone a "ne'er do well". You'd also hear people asking for e'er a cent, from ever if they were looking for one.

Hermy · 19-01-2009 06:53PM

cmn89 wrote: »

I was like white lemonade

What does this mean?:o:rolleyes::p

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