kissing a guy = kissing a girl?

ntlbell · 14-01-2009 06:38PM

jim o doom wrote: »

haha "no crossing swords"? blech! yeah as most horny men are - but would we actually go through with it when it came to bat? another matter entirely

LOL - You're not "Touching willies-curious" then?

Mr. Incognito · 14-01-2009 06:39PM

wow - five pages in an hour.

It's going to depend on the relationship- I'm actually with Shellyboo- you should check with your partner first.

Personally it's not the whole kissing the same sex thing- it' sthe context of the kiss. I mean two birds kissing taking the p*ss is completely different to my missus snogging her mate becasue she has romantic feelings for her. THAT would worry me.

Luckily I'm single.

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 06:40PM

ntlbell wrote: »

LOL - You're not "Touching willies-curious" then?

only my own - and I don't think anyones really THAT curious about something they've played with THAT much down the years

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 06:41PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

wow - five pages in an hour.

It's going to depend on the relationship- I'm actually with Shellyboo- you should check with your partner first.

Personally it's not the whole kissing the same sex thing- it' sthe context of the kiss. I mean two birds kissing taking the p*ss is completely different to my missus snogging her mate becasue she has romantic feelings for her. THAT would worry me.

Luckily I'm single.

"Luckily" eh? Methinks I spot a thinly disguised dating advertisement

ntlbell · 14-01-2009 06:47PM

jim o doom wrote: »

"Luckily" eh? Methinks I spot a thinly disguised dating advertisement

no one went for my 3some bait :mad:

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 06:50PM

ntlbell wrote: »

no one went for my 3some bait :mad:

I think the whole "my girlfriends not into it" thing might have put them off.. if you had said she was champing at the bit you might have gotten a few replies..

14-01-2009 06:50PM

Kirnsy wrote: »

i was wondering where the LL would stand on this??

is a girl kissing another girl while in a relationship perceived as cheating??

most lads(myself included) find the thought of two girls kissing pretty hot!

However if my gf were to be kissing another girl on a drunken night out id actually get a bit pissed off!!!

is there something wrong with me?!or does anyone else find this makes sense!!

Yes of course it is cheating and indicates a complete lack of respect

conf101 · 14-01-2009 06:55PM

Personally I consider it cheating if my partner kisses someone else, regardless of the sex.

If you have an arrangement in your relationship that ok's it then that's cool and all's good in the hood.

I don't buy the argument that if the girl is bi and is allowed to kiss other girls then the guy is only allowed kiss other guys. If a girl (or a guy for that matter) is bi then she's sexually attracted to both girls and guys. By allowing her to kiss girls she's being allowed to do what she get's turned on by. Why is the girl allowed to do what turns her on but the guy not? Double standards if you ask me!!

mollybird · 14-01-2009 06:58PM

ya cause i know he was drunk and he would never look at a guy sober. it's called having trust in a relationship.

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 07:02PM

mollybird wrote: »

ya cause i know he was drunk and he would never look at a guy sober. it's called having trust in a relationship.

well if he was inebriated enough to do something he would never do while sober (kiss a bloke) & he was with a girl drunk; which he would never do while sober (I assume) - would you still be saying the same thing?

challengemaster · 14-01-2009 07:05PM

shellyboo wrote: »

That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.

The problem with your arguement is - If you're a female and allowed to kiss other females, then your partner is allowed kiss other males. What if he doesn't want to? Has no attraction for them? Is that really fair? Just because you have a fancy for the same sex, that makes it alright to snog other people?

I don't think so. IMO, Your gf would be asking "Can I kiss someone else that I fancy/am attracted to" - That's regardless of gender as far as I'm concerned. So why wouldn't their partner be allowed kiss someone else they're attracted to, regardless of gender?

Although if you're going off kissing other people, why the fúck are you in a relationship anyway?

Snowie · 14-01-2009 07:08PM

challengemaster wrote: »

The problem with your arguement is - If you're a female and allowed to kiss other females, then your partner is allowed kiss other males. What if he doesn't want to? Has no attraction for them? Is that really fair? Just because you have a fancy for the same sex, that makes it alright to snog other people?

I don't think so. IMO, Your gf would be asking "Can I kiss someone else that I fancy/am attracted to" - That's regardless of gender as far as I'm concerned. So why wouldn't their partner be allowed kiss someone else they're attracted to, regardless of gender?

Although if you're going off kissing other people, why the fúck are you in a relationship anyway?

thank you thats exactly my point, it seems really one sided.....
Id like to add that i have trouble putting pen to peaper but he said it for perfectly you rock manor woman

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 07:10PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

thank you thats exactly my point, it seems really one sided.....
Id like to add that i have trouble putting pen to peaper but he said it for perfectly you rock manor woman

lol I said the exact same thing (in different words) - last post on page 4..

Snowie · 14-01-2009 07:11PM

jim o doom wrote: »

lol I said the exact same thing (in different words) - last post on page 4..

and i gave thanks :cool:

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 07:12PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

and i gave thanks :cool:

Really? dammit I didn't go back and look.. appreciate that! yeah I mean don't we surpress our desire for "other females" because we are with someone else?.. who/the sex of the person you supress desire for is arbitrary in my book

Snowie · 14-01-2009 07:15PM

jim o doom wrote: »

Really? dammit I didn't go back and look.. appreciate that! yeah I mean don't we surpress our desire for "other females" because we are with someone else?.. who/the sex of the person you supress desire for is arbitrary in my book

well thanks for that youve just completely confused me

jim o doom · 14-01-2009 07:17PM

I'm confused myself.. (confused is a breed of marijuana right?)

Nevyn · 14-01-2009 07:20PM

challengemaster wrote: »

Although if you're going off kissing other people, why the fúck are you in a relationship anyway?

Not all relationships have the same rules or boundaries.
People should respect the boundaries and limits of the relationship they are in
and learn to mind their own business and respect relationships of other people
even of the boundaries of those relationships are different.

Snowie · 14-01-2009 07:22PM

Thaedydal wrote: »

Not all relationships have the same rules or boundaries.

then how do you class it as a relationship ?

challengemaster · 14-01-2009 07:23PM

Thaedydal wrote: »

Not all relationships have the same rules or boundaries.
People should respect the boundaries and limits of the relationship they are in
and learn to mind their own business and respect relationships of other people
even of the boundaries of those relationships are different.

I was under the impression this was a monogamous relationship

Wibbs · 14-01-2009 07:44PM

ntlbell wrote: »

If I have to explain that bi curious is just another name for a socially/emotionally/sexually retarded teenager who needs to take down the placebo poster.....then sure...consider it done.

OK this is but one example on this thread of your feeble attempts at windup. Some of your other posts are going beyond the pale and are not in the spirit of this forum. So ease off the throttle or you'll be my first ban from around here.

JC 2K3 · 14-01-2009 07:54PM

Getting sexual kicks from someone else while in a relationship wouldn't be acceptable to me. That's the bottom line really. And I think the majority of people's views on relationships would be in line with this.

Now I acknowledge and have no problem with certain couples having different views and different rules, and indeed what is acceptable behavior by either partner in any relationship is entirely up to the parties involved, however, I would think that to expect certain types of behavior to be allowed in a relationship under normal circumstances would be unreasonable. A bisexual girl expecting to be allowed to kiss other girls while her hetrosexual boyfriend cannot (he's not going to want to kiss guys) would be unreasonable IMO.

14-01-2009 08:14PM

Wibbs wrote: »

OK this is but one example on this thread of your feeble attempts at windup. Some of your other posts are going beyond the pale and are not in the spirit of this forum. So ease off the throttle or you'll be my first ban from around here.

omg wibbs has moved over here
*runs*

/offtopic >>

hot2def · 14-01-2009 08:25PM

I'm bisexual and female, I have a long term girlfriend.

I have permission, if I feel the need and tell her, to kiss men, although I have not done so to date.

She is gay. If she asked me could she kiss anoth woman, I would see it as only fair.

the question is not "Can I go be with some one who isn't the same gender as my partner, cause its different?" its simply "Can I get off with someone else?"

gender and bisexuality are irrelevant in this. its about the boundries of your relationship.

ntlbell · 14-01-2009 09:01PM

Wibbs wrote: »

OK this is but one example on this thread of your feeble attempts at windup. Some of your other posts are going beyond the pale and are not in the spirit of this forum. So ease off the throttle or you'll be my first ban from around here.

I'll ease off the throttle but I would prefer you stop assuming what my posts are meant to do and what not to do

That's my feeling on "bi-curious" I'm sorry it doesn't suit other peoples opinion on but that's the beauty of life.

So as I said I'll ease up and you stop persuming what my posts mean if you're unsure you can always ask me.

nomorebadtown · 14-01-2009 09:04PM

my ex is bi and lads it wasnt the ménage à trois paradise you might think:rolleyes:
maybe i'm an insecure pussy but if i love someone it kills me to think of them or see them with someone else.

JC 2K3 · 14-01-2009 09:15PM

hot2def wrote: »

the question is not "Can I go be with some one who isn't the same gender as my partner, cause its different?" its simply "Can I get off with someone else?"

gender and bisexuality are irrelevant in this. its about the boundries of your relationship.

But what if gender and bisexuality are relevant to the boundaries of your relationship?

It's not exactly inconceivable that a heterosexual male would have no problem with his bisexual girlfriend kissing other girls, but not guys, while his girlfriend would have a problem with him kissing other girls, and both partners being happy about it.

It mightn't be logical in your mind, it certainly isn't in mine and I wouldn't accept a girl expecting that, but there are no universal, logical standards for love and relationships.

Wibbs · 14-01-2009 09:17PM

ntlbell wrote: »

I'll ease off the throttle but I would prefer you stop assuming what my posts are meant to do and what not to do

Then quite simply be more clear in your intent.

That's my feeling on "bi-curious" I'm sorry it doesn't suit other peoples opinion on but that's the beauty of life.

Fine but you will be asked to take that opinion elsewhere. If that opinion was posted in the Lesbian, gay and bisexual forum you would have gotten a warning, or even a ban as it would be objectionable. You've flagged up one too many reported posts in this thread. There are bisexuals here too and indeed all over the site and they, nor anyone else will be made light of or uncomfortable by anyone on my watch and if you can't see that, then maybe other fora are more to your liking.

So, please feel free to post away following both the spirit and charter of this forum. Indeed I've enjoyed and often agreed with many of your posts in the past, but if you want to be judgemental, homophobic or generally looking to get a rise, you will be banned from here for it. That applies to all.

If you take issue then please feel free to take your concerns to feedback or PM. Do not drag this thread off topic.

Dudess · 14-01-2009 09:17PM

shellyboo wrote: »

Yeah, cos that's the only reason a girl would want to kiss another girl :rolleyes:

Some girls do that though and it's pitiful

Why shouldn't a person be primarily attracted to the opposite sex but occasionally attracted to a member of their own sex - even just once? Is that really so difficult for some to fathom? I think it makes perfect sense. I'm attracted to men - I fecking love men. Yet I still wouldn't rule out the possibility that some day some girl will bowl me over. It doesn't feel like it will happen but that doesn't mean it won't.
Sexuality isn't straightforward, it varies from person to person. It isn't just this set of black and white rules and constraints you apply to everyone.

And snogging someone while in a relationship - even if they're the same gender - is cheating... to a point. I doubt, if a woman got pissed some night and snogged one of the girls for the laugh, it would bother her partner/husband.

I don't like the term bi-curious either though. To me, it implies "wanting to snog someone of the same sex to see what it's like".

ntlbell wrote: »

wtf.

You're a journalist please don't use cos.....

LOL - double standards much? Even if you're not a journalist, the fact that you of all people have criticised someone else's writing, is laughable...

The Sweeper · 14-01-2009 09:44PM

Grammar nazis, stfu or I'll infract every last one of you.

kissing a guy = kissing a girl?

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