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kissing a guy = kissing a girl?

  • 14-01-2009 4:26pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Kirnsy


    i was wondering where the LL would stand on this??

    is a girl kissing another girl while in a relationship perceived as cheating??

    most lads(myself included) find the thought of two girls kissing pretty hot!

    However if my gf were to be kissing another girl on a drunken night out id actually get a bit pissed off!!!

    is there something wrong with me?!or does anyone else find this makes sense!!


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Kirnsy wrote: »
    i was wondering where the LL would stand on this??

    is a girl kissing another girl while in a relationship perceived as cheating??

    most lads(myself included) find the thought of two girls kissing pretty hot!

    However if my gf were to be kissing another girl on a drunken night out id actually get a bit pissed off!!!

    is there something wrong with me?!or does anyone else find this makes sense!!

    My friend, if I were you I would be asking to join in!! :p

    TBH would it really bother you if she was kissing a mate for a laugh or are you asking as if it was intentional and they were at it all night?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Kirnsy


    no no this isnt a PI and i dont want it to turn in to it!!

    its never happend to me im just wondering if other people would see it as bad as kissing a guy?!!


    or visa versa but its rarer id imagine when guys kiss other guys!!

    ps Mods if you feel this thread is more suited to AH or elsewhere please move!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    My friend, if I were you I would be asking to join in!! :p

    TBH would it really bother you if she was kissing a mate for a laugh or are you asking as if it was intentional and they were at it all night?

    I'd say it would bother her if he was kissing his (girl) mate for a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Id wonder why im seeing a girl whos an attention seeker....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Id wonder why im seeing a girl whos an attention seeker....

    Yeah, cos that's the only reason a girl would want to kiss another girl :rolleyes:

    In my head, kissing another girl wouldn't be classed as 'cheating' at all, I wouldn't consider it so... but if I was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless I'd talked about it with my partner and he was ok with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yeah, cos that's the only reason a girl would want to kiss another girl :rolleyes:

    In my head, kissing another girl wouldn't be classed as 'cheating' at all, I wouldn't consider it so... but if I was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless I'd talked about it with my partner and he was ok with it.

    wtf.

    You're a journalist please don't use cos.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yeah, cos that's the only reason a girl would want to kiss another girl :rolleyes:

    In my head, kissing another girl wouldn't be classed as 'cheating' at all, I wouldn't consider it so... but if I was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless I'd talked about it with my partner and he was ok with it.

    What if he wanted to kiss a bloke, or another girl? I wouldn't be that bothered though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 pingpongz


    Ive told my GF i have no problems with her even ****ing another girl if she wanted to.
    If she kissed another guy though i would have them both killed :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    ntlbell wrote: »
    wtf.

    You're a journalist please don't use cos.....


    Unless you're intending on paying me the going rate for my writing skills, I don't intend to alter my informal language use for your sake, ntlbell. I also use txtspk in text messages, shocka.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    What if he wanted to kiss a bloke, or another girl? I wouldn't be that bothered though.


    Wouldn't have a problem with him kissing a bloke, as long as he'd told me he was bicurious before he did it and knew it was ok with me.

    I'd have a huge problem with him kissing another girl, though.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    pingpongz wrote: »
    Ive told my GF i have no problems with her even ****ing another girl if she wanted to.
    What if the other woman was gay and not doing a Katie Perry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yeah, cos that's the only reason a girl would want to kiss another girl :rolleyes:

    In my head, kissing another girl wouldn't be classed as 'cheating' at all, I wouldn't consider it so... but if I was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless I'd talked about it with my partner and he was ok with it.

    :rolleyes:
    Rioght....

    So why would a girl kiss another girl ? when she in a reletionship with some one else, please feel free to inlightin me ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    I would perceive it as cheating.

    Experimentation is great and all but it's not cool if you're already going out with somebody else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    :rolleyes:
    Rioght....

    So why would a girl kiss another girl ? when she in a reletionship with some one else, please feel free to inlightin me ?

    Because she's bisexual or bicurious and kissing a girl is different to kissing a guy?

    And like I said, it's only ok if your partner has cleared it beforehand. The only definition of cheating that matters in a case like this is your partner's, so unless you find out what they think first, it's just irresponsible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭St Bill


    Kirnsy wrote: »
    i was wondering where the LL would stand on this??

    is a girl kissing another girl while in a relationship perceived as cheating??

    most lads(myself included) find the thought of two girls kissing pretty hot!

    However if my gf were to be kissing another girl on a drunken night out id actually get a bit pissed off!!!

    is there something wrong with me?!or does anyone else find this makes sense!!


    I think there's something wrong with you. Why are you asking people does it make sense to be annoyed if your girlfirend snogged someone else?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Kirnsy wrote: »
    is a girl kissing another girl while in a relationship perceived as cheating??

    Yes if her partner views it as that with in the context of their relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Wouldn't have a problem with him kissing a bloke, as long as he'd told me he was bicurious before he did it and knew it was ok with me.

    I'd have a huge problem with him kissing another girl, though.

    bi curious lol

    Just when you think boards can't get any worse a new level is reached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    ntlbell wrote: »
    bi curious lol

    Just when you think boards can't get any worse a new level is reached.


    Do you want to explain that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,503 ✭✭✭✭jellie


    if your gf is kissing a girl she either..

    a) is doing it for attention
    or
    b) wants to kiss other people

    if its a) do you want an attention seeker for a gf
    if its b) do you want your gf cheating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Do you want to explain that?

    If I have to explain that bi curious is just another name for a socially/emotionally/sexually retarded teenager who needs to take down the placebo poster.....then sure...consider it done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Wouldn't have a problem with him kissing a bloke, as long as he'd told me he was bicurious before he did it and knew it was ok with me.

    I'd have a huge problem with him kissing another girl, though.

    I must say I'd be the opposite end of the spectrum - if my bf kissed either a man or woman I'd be equally annoyed!

    I thought that this would be the typical view but it will be interesting to see whether other Loungers would be of the more lenient shellyboo view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Because she's bisexual or bicurious and kissing a girl is different to kissing a guy?

    And like I said, it's only ok if your partner has cleared it beforehand. The only definition of cheating that matters in a case like this is your partner's, so unless you find out what they think first, it's just irresponsible.

    Thats a pretty big genrlization there...

    bare with me here

    Your in a steady reletioship with some one, you decide your bi curious..
    Why in hell are you in a reletionship if you decided you where bi curious? If he agreed that you could kiss girls, does this mean he could kiss other girls to ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    ntlbell wrote: »
    If I have to explain that bi curious is just another name for a socially/emotionally/sexually retarded teenager who needs to take down the placebo poster.....then sure...consider it done.

    Post reported for being insulting to peoples sexual orientation and being personally abusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Thats a pretty big genrlization there...

    bare with me here

    Your in a steady reletioship with some one, you decide your bi curious..
    Why in hell are you in a reletionship if you decided you where bi curious? If he agreed that you could kiss girls, does this mean he could kiss other girls to ?

    It means you should probably count your lucky stars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Post reported for being insulting to peoples sexual orientation and being personally abusive.

    are you for real?


    bi-curious is a sexual orientation now? it's an actual state?

    it just means your fecking confused?? how is that insulting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Thats a pretty big genrlization there...

    bare with me here

    Your in a steady reletioship with some one, you decide your bi curious..
    Why in hell are you in a reletionship if you decided you where bi curious? If he agreed that you could kiss girls, does this mean he could kiss other girls to ?

    Just because you are bi courous or even bisexual and in a relationship with a person of one gender
    that does not mean you won't find people of the other gender attractive.

    It does how ever mean that you do not act on it in a way which breaks
    the terms of your relationship and if you find those terms to be too restrictive
    then you should break up and them move on.

    As for what ever arrangements or agreements people have with in the terms of their relationships
    that is between them and of no concern of anyone else unless it effects the directly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Morgase wrote: »
    I must say I'd be the opposite end of the spectrum - if my bf kissed either a man or woman I'd be equally annoyed!

    I thought that this would be the typical view but it will be interesting to see whether other Loungers would be of the more lenient shellyboo view.

    I highly doubt it, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be in a minority of one on this. Prove me wrong, tLLers!
    Thats a pretty big genrlization there...

    bare with me here

    Your in a steady reletioship with some one, you decide your bi curious..
    Why in hell are you in a reletionship if you decided you where bi curious? If he agreed that you could kiss girls, does this mean he could kiss other girls to ?

    Why shouldn't a bisexual/bicurious person be in a relationship? They're just as entitled to be in one as a straight or gay person.

    No, it doesn't mean that he could kiss other girls, but it does mean that he could kiss other guys.
    I'm not saying this should be allowed in all relationships, if someone considers it cheating then absolutely not, it's off limits. But if I have a boyfriend who's happy for me to experiment with women, then where's the harm? I'd be happy for him to experiment with men too, if he wanted.

    As for a generalisation... it's not. It's fact. Kissing a girl feels different to kissing a guy. Unless you've kissed a guy, you're not in a position to dispute this.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    shellyboo wrote: »
    No, it doesn't mean that he could kiss other girls, but it does mean that he could kiss other guys.
    I'm not saying this should be allowed in all relationships, if someone considers it cheating then absolutely not, it's off limits. But if I have a boyfriend who's happy for me to experiment with women, then where's the harm? I'd be happy for him to experiment with men too, if he wanted.

    I'd consider it cheating regardless of the gender of the person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    nouggatti wrote: »
    I'd consider it cheating regardless of the gender of the person.

    I think Shelly's point is that it's not cheating if both partners consent to it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    ntlbell wrote: »
    are you for real?


    bi-curious is a sexual orientation now? it's an actual state?

    it just means your fecking confused?? how is that insulting?

    :rolleyes:
    Referring to people who are bicurious as socially/emotionally retarded teenagers is pretty offensive, although I guess it's not as offensive as it is mindnumbingly stupid and ignorant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    nouggatti wrote: »
    I'd consider it cheating regardless of the gender of the person.

    and you are entitled to in terms of your relationships, completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    :rolleyes:
    Referring to people who are bicurious as socially/emotionally retarded teenagers is pretty offensive, although I guess it's not as offensive as it is mindnumbingly stupid and ignorant.

    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    It's not a sexual orientation if it wasn't for the fecking internet no one would be even using the word!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Just because you are bi courous or even bisexual and in a relationship with a person of one gender
    that does not mean you won't find people of the other gender attractive.

    It does how ever mean that you do not act on it in a way which breaks
    the terms of your relationship and if you find those terms to be too restrictive
    then you should break up and them move on.

    As for what ever arrangements or agreements people have with in the terms of their relationships
    that is between them and of no concern of anyone else unless it effects the directly.


    I do know what bisexuality is...

    My own personal opinion is not going to be spoken on this one,
    but i left that post open to see how shellyboos logic worked she didnt reply you did.........

    My point being if i had gf and she decied that infact she was bi, and she wanted to kiss other girls.

    I'd
    A, say well if you can kiss other girls, so does that mean I can?. If she said no i wouldnt agree simply because why she she go kissing other girls and i cant ? ( Bi sexual partner goes from exclusive to none eclusive...)
    B , I's see no point continuing in the reletionship as whast the point she's aloud to get what she wants yet ive got to sit back granted there could be rewards but as we all no that can turn against you.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    ntlbell wrote: »
    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    It's not a sexual orientation if it wasn't for the fecking internet no one would be even using the word!

    Of course people are bi-curious - I knew someone who wanted the experience of being with a same sex partner and maybe see if in fact they were bisexual, but promptly turned their back on the idea afterwards.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    I think Shelly's point is that it's not cheating if both partners consent to it.

    Duh sorry, bit of a slow brain day here today :D

    If both partners consent to it, then it's fine, I read it as being non consensual on the part of the other partner.

    Apologies :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    Of course people are bi-curious - I knew someone who wanted the experience of being with a same sex partner and maybe see if in fact they were bisexual, but promptly turned their back on the idea afterwards.

    That wasn't someone who was bi-curious....that's just someone who's confused.

    I was going to buy a BMW I couldn't decide on it for weeks I went to pull the trigger and couldn't do it.

    what am I? BMW-curious? lmao


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    ntlbell wrote: »
    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    I disagree.

    Lots of people have a passing interest (whether as teenagers or as adults) in people of the same gender for a while and then discover after a while it was just a phase.

    Sexuality is a very fluid (pardon the pun) thing and I don't believe that a person can be neatly packaged into gay, straight and bi for their whole lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    ntlbell wrote: »
    That wasn't someone who was bi-curious....that's just someone who's confused.

    I was going to buy a BMW I couldn't decide on it for weeks I went to pull the trigger and couldn't do it.

    what am I? BMW-curious? lmao

    Yeah equate buying a car to the complexities of the human brain :rolleyes:

    If someone is bi-curious then perhaps they're deciding on something that will affect the rest of their lives and change their life dramatically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Morgase wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Lots of people have a passing interest (whether as teenagers or as adults) in people of the same gender for a while and then discover after a while it was just a phase.

    Sexuality is a very fluid (pardon the pun) thing and I don't believe that a person can be neatly packaged into gay, straight and bi for their whole lives.

    I understand during puberty there can be a bit of confusion this doesn't make you "bi curious" it just it what it is a confusion.

    Once you're past the teenage years your one or the other and if your not, your back to my initial post on the tread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    An ex of mine did it for attention with another hot girl when I was younger (like aged 18; many moons ago) at it was hot.. but it ticked me off as well. Regardless of what the reasoning, I don't think anybodies OH should be kissing someone else, for a laugh, attention or pleasure. It's a bit of a trust breach as far as I am concerned.


    That being said if I was told that there would be a 3some involved prior to said kiss I'd be ok'ing that motherf*cker in 10 billionths of a second flat. Apparently my genitals still have a considerable part of the decision making process.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    Yeah equate buying a car to the complexities of the human brain :rolleyes:

    choosing a car that turns you on is a very complex process.

    the process is not the issue the complexity is not the issue.

    the naming convention is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Once you're past the teenage years your one or the other and if your not, your back to my initial post on the tread...


    What so everyone matures or figures out exactly who they are at the same time? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    ntlbell wrote: »
    choosing a car that turns you on is a very complex process.

    the process is not the issue the complexity is not the issue.

    the naming convention is.

    So in affect, you agree that someone can be bi-curious but as long as we call it 'confused' instead, that's ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    I do know what bisexuality is...

    My own personal opinion is not going to be spoken on this one,
    but i left that post open to see how shellyboos logic worked she didnt reply you did.........

    Yes I did...


    My point being if i had gf and she decied that infact she was bi, and she wanted to kiss other girls.

    I'd
    A, say well if you can kiss other girls, so does that mean I can?. If she said no i wouldnt agree simply because why she she go kissing other girls and i cant ? ( Bi sexual partner goes from exclusive to none eclusive...)
    B , I's see no point continuing in the reletionship as whast the point she's aloud to get what she wants yet ive got to sit back granted there could be rewards but as well al no that can turn against you.....

    That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    jim o doom wrote: »
    An ex of mine did it for attention with another hot girl when I was younger (like 18 many moons ago) at it was hot.. but it ticked me off as well. Regardless of what the reasoning, I don't think anybodies OH should be kissing someone else, for a laugh, attention or pleasure. It's a bit of a trust breach as far as I am concerned.

    That being said if I was told that there would be a 3some involved prior to said kiss I'd be ok'ing that motherf*cker in 10 billionths of a second flat. Apparently my genitals still have a considerable part of the decision making process.

    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    She might be if you let her kiss a girl once in a while :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yes I did...





    That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.

    "She can get the same-sex experience with you"?

    Yeah because that's all a person other half is there for - their non same-sex experience with you.
    If someone is OK'ing their OH to go and CHEAT with someone else, it doesn't matter what the sex of the person is at all.. I know above I said blahedy blah threesome.. but cheating is cheating and that's really all there is to it :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Mr. Frost


    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    :pac:

    When you know something you want, like a threesome (and a lot of guys say it's something they'd like to do) it's different, being bicurious means just that, being curious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    So in affect, you agree that someone can be bi-curious but as long as we call it 'confused' instead, that's ok?

    I'm saying, bi-curious is not a sexual orientation.

    It's usually just someone who lacks _any_ expirience one way or the other.

    but i have a solution if you ever think your bi-curious

    throw on a hardcore gay porn flick.

    If it turns you on your getting somewhere if you feel sick to your stomach your getting somewhere....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭Kya1976


    isn't trysexual a better term?


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