if you were a bouncer

oeb · 19-12-2008 10:18AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

I wonder how many drummers OEB knows and how many he thinks are waster !!??

Its a well know fact most bouncers are on a power trip and just ignorant !!

Maybe it's a well known fact by people who won't take the effort to abide by the dress code of a place. Or people that do not, in fact, think anyone should be able to tell them that they are too pissed to come into a premises.

I worked as a bouncer for a few years down in Kerry, but how come I have never experienced bouncers having a 'power trip' anywhere else in the country? Is it maybe because I don't try going into night clubs when I am too pissed to stand up? Is it because I don't think tracksuit pants and a hoodie is suitable attire for a saturday night on the town?

If all bouncers are out to get you mate, it's probably you rather than them.

rockdrummer · 19-12-2008 10:23AM

Wonder why their has been so much talk about trying to regulate bouncers...

Anyway ya dont have the faintest idea how to deal with people, maybe its the aggressive attitude that pisses people off.

In my case it wasnt being pissed or anything like that, it was to do with the fact I had long hair.

big_show · 19-12-2008 10:25AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

Wonder why their has been so much talk about trying to regulate bouncers...

Anyway ya dont have the faintest idea how to deal with people, maybe its the aggressive attitude that pisses people off.

In my case it wasnt being pissed or anything like that, it was to do with the fact I had long hair.

Like a fairy?

Dragan · 19-12-2008 10:26AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

Wonder why their has been so much talk about trying to regulate bouncers...

Anyway ya dont have the faintest idea how to deal with people, maybe its the aggressive attitude that pisses people off.

In my case it wasnt being pissed or anything like that, it was to do with the fact I had long hair.

LoL, thats all you have? One incident from someone over your hair and all bouncers are **** who deserve to be shot?

rockdrummer · 19-12-2008 10:27AM

When did I say one incident?

rockdrummer · 19-12-2008 10:30AM

big_show wrote: »

Like a fairy?

What a comeback.... typical bouncer attitude !

oeb · 19-12-2008 10:35AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

When did I say one incident?

Bar owners are generally very clear about dress code etc to bouncers. I very much doubt that you were stopped for only having long hair.

I'm sure of course, other than the hair (Which was combed) you were also wearing a clean shirt and pants. And wearing a pair of shoes (not trainers)?

rockdrummer · 19-12-2008 10:38AM

Im afraid I was !! Yeah hard to understand but thats bouncers for ya.

pallepille · 19-12-2008 10:42AM

oeb wrote: »

Maybe it's a well known fact by people who won't take the effort to abide by the dress code of a place. Or people that do not, in fact, think anyone should be able to tell them that they are too pissed to come into a premises.

I worked as a bouncer for a few years down in Kerry, but how come I have never experienced bouncers having a 'power trip' anywhere else in the country? Is it maybe because I don't try going into night clubs when I am too pissed to stand up? Is it because I don't think tracksuit pants and a hoodie is suitable attire for a saturday night on the town?

If all bouncers are out to get you mate, it's probably you rather than them.

dunno about that at all, a very unpredictable bunch altogether, borderlining on random sometimes who gets in, ive seen large groups of sh*tmonkeys inside clubs shortly after witnessing 2 sober 23/24 year old lads being refused for entry for being too drunk (by no means in tracksuits). Got attacked by one aswell before myself for a similar incident ducked away from his ridiculous attack and pointed to the camera on him (he hit me first) while his manager came outside and dragged him into the club screaming at him....Even had to bribe one before just not to give people hassle coming to our gigs, fcukin ridiculous carry on......not tarring every1 with the same brush but thats just what i have experienced...

oeb · 19-12-2008 10:47AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

Im afraid I was !! Yeah hard to understand but thats bouncers for ya.

If you get this everywhere you go, maybe you just look like a scumbag? It does happen. Working on the door, you do have to judge people by how they look, and how they speak. It's often the only thing that a doorman has to go by when they are deciding if they want to let someone in or not. Maybe you display agressive body language when you are approaching a door? There are a million and one reasons why someone could get stopped at a pub or club, but if it's something that happens to you on a regular basis, in more than one pub (by more than one security company), I can certainly say that it's you rather than them.

You are going to meet the kind of asshole who should not be working on a door, you are going to arrive at a door 10 minutes after some scumbag has tried to bottle him, or just after some pissed d4 arts student with a sense of entitlement has just spent much too long telling him how he 'knows his rights' and he is in a foul mood. But these are generally occasional things, and still, 99% of the time, even in those cases, you should have no problem getting in.

dr.bollocko · 19-12-2008 10:52AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

Wonder why their has been so much talk about trying to regulate bouncers...

Anyway ya dont have the faintest idea how to deal with people, maybe its the aggressive attitude that pisses people off.

In my case it wasnt being pissed or anything like that, it was to do with the fact I had long hair.

rockdrummer wrote: »

When did I say one incident?

rockdrummer wrote: »

What a comeback.... typical bouncer attitude !

rockdrummer wrote: »

Im afraid I was !! Yeah hard to understand but thats bouncers for ya.

Any more trolling = banning.

rockdrummer · 19-12-2008 10:53AM

MMM very interesting so I look like a scumbag thanks very much. But to be quiet honest Im just a typical average bloke who just had long hair - FACT...

I've no problem getting into places now, Im older and dont have the long hair anymore... But to be honest its more the agressive behaviour that bothers me, most of them are basically knackers themselves, to be honest who but a knacker would want to be a bouncer?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 19-12-2008 10:55AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Any more trolling = banning.

rockdrummer wrote: »

most of them are basically knackers themselves, to be honest who but a knacker would want to be a bouncer?

Uh oh, this looks ominous...

oztots · 19-12-2008 10:55AM

I've been refused for being drunk, and I've refused people for being drunk.

I've been refused for wearing a hoodie, and I've refused people for wearing a hoodie.

Any good bouncer will tell you, you get further with a kind word than big mouth and a fist. Same goes for bouncers, a quick "quit it or you'll be out" gets less a hostile response than screaming at some fella.

The amount of times I've seen people refused sober for wearing a hoodie, trainers and having a shaved head then getting abusive makes me wonder how they dont cop on.

Karl Hungus · 19-12-2008 10:58AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

to be honest who but a knacker would want to be a bouncer?

Yeah... Your attitude is definitely not the problem man. All the bouncers fault. They conspire against you, to keep you out of clubs so that their plans to start a war in central asia can see fruition. :pac:

oztots · 19-12-2008 10:59AM

rockdrummer wrote: »

MMM very interesting so I look like a scumbag thanks very much. But to be quiet honest Im just a typical average bloke who just had long hair - FACT...

I've no problem getting into places now, Im older and dont have the long hair anymore... But to be honest its more the agressive behaviour that bothers me, most of them are basically knackers themselves, to be honest who but a knacker would want to be a bouncer?

I take offence to that, I'm a student in UL who does bouncing for a job.

To name the full time jobs other people working with me had.

Chef, Insurance broker, Civil Engineer, Block layer, and a shop assistant.

Have to say its quite obvious why you wouldnt get into places.

dr.bollocko · 19-12-2008 10:59AM

Chana Rapping Pulp wrote: »

Uh oh, this looks ominous...

Indeed.
Rock Drummer is outta here. 7 days.

pallepille · 19-12-2008 11:01AM

i wonder will he be able to get in next week hehehe

AckwelFoley · 19-12-2008 11:10AM

poisonated wrote: »

Hi id like to ask for some opinions on this..
I was going to a well known club with a shared beer garden on harcourt street.I had drank admitedly a bit too much:o
but anyway when I got to this club i was refused entry because I didnt have a ticket,which i didnt know was needed, which was fair enough but then the guy called me a rat and they all had a good laugh so i said that one of them laughed like a girl(very high pitched).. then he started to get angry... anyway my question is if you were a bouncer and I came to that club 2 weeks later... would you let me in,would you remember?
sorry... bit worried:(

i worked as a bouncer for years, and theres more to this story than you disclose.

and no, they wont forget

boredatwork82 · 19-12-2008 11:30AM

I am a bouncer too with a very respectable day job.
I was actually chatting to the other lads on the door on saturday night about the number of people who look like scumbags, and wonder why they can't get in.
They are probably the nicest people, but if my manager sees a group of lads who look like they just got out of booze Britain in, I'd get the sack.

I also knew a a club manager who had a dress policy of no long hair on guys. Any guy who came in with long hair was given an elastic band to tie his hair up. If he didn't like, he was free to go to another club.

On the issue in hand, the fact that you say these guys were laughing at you, is unprofessional. But in my experience, after you stop someone I try to block them out by starting up a convo with the bouncers, and if you have 3 guys who get along this will inevitably turn to a joke, and people automatically assume you were laughing at them, where you were probably laughing at something else completely unrelated.

As for letting you back in, I am leniant and polite. I will tell lads what they need to do if they are to come in(wear less chunky jewellery, cover up some tatoos, dress better, tidy change hairstyle etc) or if they are never gonna get in. But if someone makes a personnal insult to me, I will not ever let that person in.

Cianos · 19-12-2008 12:14PM

I dislike the level of conformity required to get in to a lot of places. The idea of having to wear shoes/shirt/tie and have your hair neat and tidy, it just shows how boring Irish night life is really.

I'd prefer to go to places with a bit of character where you don't have to look or act like every other person in the place, and listen to the same music you'll hear in every other bar and club, because the manager is trying to attract the right crowd who will be spending the most amount of money while causing the least amount of trouble.

So in this respect, I guess a lot of people would feel hard done by because they just want to go out for a night, have no intention of causing trouble, but they don't want to have to dress in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable. And then of course they are refused.

This rant isn't aimed at bouncers because I know they are just doing their job and enforcing the dress code that their boss has outlined.

Would just be nice if there were more places you could go to wearing whatever the hell you wanted and have no problem from anyone.

javaboy · 19-12-2008 12:21PM

pallepille wrote: »

i wonder will he be able to get in next week hehehe

Ba-dum-tish!

Dragan · 19-12-2008 12:21PM

Cianos wrote: »

Would just be nice if there were more places you could go to wearing whatever the hell you wanted and have no problem from anyone.

There are dozens of nights in town each month in various places that are very relaxed, play different music etc.

You have regular nights in Radio City, McGruders, Doyles, Fibbers, you have Brussies, you have Think Tank, various nights in Tripod etc.

Loads of stuff to do other than D2, Krystal and all that ****e.

boredatwork82 · 19-12-2008 12:25PM

Cianos wrote: »

I dislike the level of conformity required to get in to a lot of places. The idea of having to wear shoes/shirt/tie and have your hair neat and tidy, it just shows how boring Irish night life is really.

I'd prefer to go to places with a bit of character where you don't have to look or act like every other person in the place, and listen to the same music you'll hear in every other bar and club, because the manager is trying to attract the right crowd who will be spending the most amount of money while causing the least amount of trouble.

So in this respect, I guess a lot of people would feel hard done by because they just want to go out for a night, have no intention of causing trouble, but they don't want to have to dress in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable. And then of course they are refused.

This rant isn't aimed at bouncers because I know they are just doing their job and enforcing the dress code that their boss has outlined.
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Very true. I agree whole heartedly. I love places where you meet oddballs and stuff, great craic. but thats just not a big enough crowd, which is why mainstream nightclubs don't target those people.

oeb · 19-12-2008 12:29PM

Cianos wrote: »

Would just be nice if there were more places you could go to wearing whatever the hell you wanted and have no problem from anyone.

It's all about making money in the end. The bars and clubs make more money with the strict dress codes than without them. Otherwise they would not do it. There is a reason why these places are busier.

ronano · 19-12-2008 12:45PM

snyper wrote: »

i worked as a bouncer for years, and theres more to this story than you disclose.

and no, they wont forget

a creche dont count

Fad · 19-12-2008 12:56PM

Cianos wrote: »

I dislike the level of conformity required to get in to a lot of places. The idea of having to wear shoes/shirt/tie and have your hair neat and tidy, it just shows how boring Irish night life is really.

If you dont like conformity, then dont go to night clubs?

oztots · 19-12-2008 01:16PM

Cianos wrote: »

I dislike the level of conformity required to get in to a lot of places. The idea of having to wear shoes/shirt/tie and have your hair neat and tidy, it just shows how boring Irish night life is really.

I'd prefer to go to places with a bit of character where you don't have to look or act like every other person in the place, and listen to the same music you'll hear in every other bar and club, because the manager is trying to attract the right crowd who will be spending the most amount of money while causing the least amount of trouble.

So in this respect, I guess a lot of people would feel hard done by because they just want to go out for a night, have no intention of causing trouble, but they don't want to have to dress in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable. And then of course they are refused.

This rant isn't aimed at bouncers because I know they are just doing their job and enforcing the dress code that their boss has outlined.

Would just be nice if there were more places you could go to wearing whatever the hell you wanted and have no problem from anyone.

Theres plenty of places like that. Have you ever heard of costellos in limerick? The lodge?
Cuba, roisin dubh in galway. They're jammers with people.

And considering it says your in berlin i cant see you having any bother.

poisonated · 19-12-2008 02:28PM

snyper wrote: »

i worked as a bouncer for years, and theres more to this story than you disclose.

and no, they wont forget

no there isnt... well not with me anyway my friends were acting a bit of the bollox,anyway im not really sure if it was a joke or what but... there were 3 of them and the other 2 were still laughing kind of and they said "i wouldnt say that hes a psycho" and then they one of them held him back but he didnt look too angry.
Just thought I would clarrify the story as much as I can remember:P

arybvtcw0eolkf · 19-12-2008 02:32PM

rockdrummer wrote: »

to be honest who but a knacker would want to be a bouncer?

Is it just me, or does anyone else find using this word offensive?.

Without debating the origin of the word, we know mostly its used to describe members of the travelling community, in which case I put it up there with N****R for black people.

Bouncers, I was one myself - for over 15 yrs. Last night I was out with the lads from work (went from drinking pints of Carlsberg at €2:90 in the barracks to €5:30 in town, but thats another story).

Anyway, in Q Bar last night and a few travellers walked in, one knew me straight away from Swords - We've a little history him and I.

He came over, said ''Hello", not in the least aggressive. Asked if I was working there now, "Hope, on the rip like you mate" and that was it. One of the lads said "Fvcking knackers".. I corrected him, told him I know lots of travellers and their not all bad.

Back to bouncer, out last night. Turned away from a few bar's, no biggie we'd a wad of money to spend else where. Finished up in Club M buying Champers at mad money. Bouncers were a bit of craic, hardly a word of English but the crack all the same.

Bouncers on a power trip, Dragan can back me on this I'm sure. It RARELY happens, and when it does a good head doorman will give the guy his marching orders pretty damn quick.

I'm talking sh*t, still drunkish :P had a brilliant night.

bACK TO bed now. Doing it all again tonight

if you were a bouncer

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