Gardai are to be issued with pepper spray.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-10-2008 11:11AM #1

It has been reported that the Gardai are to be issued with Pepper spray as an alternative sourse to carrying arms or tazer guns. This measure has been brought in because of the increasing attacks on unarmed members of the force.

I agree that this is better choice than issuing certain members of the force with lethal weapons nevertheless I believe that this new measure must be very closely monitored.

In the light of this perhaps the Government can now relax our ridiculous drinking regulations in line with any normal western civilization and at the same time claw back much of its badly needed revenue.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1023/gardai.html

23-10-2008 11:12AM

Wonder if it'd taste nice in soup.

big b · 23-10-2008 11:13AM

Is this going to be a seasonal thing?

Quazzie · 23-10-2008 11:14AM

I heard this on the radio on my way into work this morning, and the first thing I thought of was that this is gonna set RTDH off.. Am I too into boards or is RTDH too predictable?

Karoma · 23-10-2008 11:14AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I agree that this is better choice than issuing certain members of the force with lethal weapons nevertheless I believe that this new measure must be very closely monitored.

Garda hierarchy & internal investigations and the Garda Ombudsman tend to ruin Garda fun with new toys.

In the light of this perhaps the Government can now relax our ridiculous drinking regulations in line with any normal western civilization and at the same time claw back much of its badly needed revenue.

This fits in how?

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-10-2008 11:14AM

the slippery slope

Dyr · 23-10-2008 11:16AM

Hmm.. RTE ...How is someones who's carrying a telescopic baton "unarmed"?

Would have sooner seen them given tasers over pepper spray

TheEnforcer · 23-10-2008 11:18AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the slippery slope

You got that right.

Look at the US where they fire tassers for the slightest "offence".

I know a good few garda, I would not trust them for a second.

The Master · 23-10-2008 11:20AM

Excellent , One spray and you're south of the border

Gran Hermano · 23-10-2008 11:22AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wonder if it'd taste nice in soup.

Only a matter of time before a garda ends up in A&E after testing what
pepper spray tastes like on his breakfast roll.

Vain · 23-10-2008 11:33AM

I bet they will use it like its water.

seamus · 23-10-2008 11:38AM

Vain wrote: »

I bet they will use it like its water.

When is the last time you, or anyone you know, has had a Garda do anything more than give them a raised voice or a "stand back there please"?

It takes a fairly extreme set of circumstances for the Gardai to even take out their batons. They're hardly going to be using this stuff liberally.

The benefit of pepper spray is that it allows you to disable a violent arrestee without having to get involved in a scuffle - with a baton, you need to put yourself at risk.

Vain · 23-10-2008 11:45AM

seamus wrote: »

When is the last time you, or anyone you know, has had a Garda do anything more than give them a raised voice or a "stand back there please"?

It takes a fairly extreme set of circumstances for the Gardai to even take out their batons. They're hardly going to be using this stuff liberally.

The benefit of pepper spray is that it allows you to disable a violent arrestee without having to get involved in a scuffle - with a baton, you need to put yourself at risk.

I know a few garda and they all have power issues. Doesn't bother me about them using pepper spray, just think they will use it too freely.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-10-2008 12:01PM

Bambi wrote: »

Would have sooner seen them given tasers over pepper spray

Protesting old ones with heart pacers wouldn't agree you on that one.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 23-10-2008 12:02PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Protesting old ones with heart pacers wouldn't agree you on that one.

The spray will probably help with the cataracts.

Dyr · 23-10-2008 12:22PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Protesting old ones with heart pacers wouldn't agree you on that one.

I think more can go wrong with pepper spray tbh

the other thing is that its not like the good old days when your average copper was a great hulking bacon 'n cabbage savage. Most of the current lot are itty bitty gardettes and gardeenies, they probably need all the equalizers that they can get

Biggins · 23-10-2008 12:25PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It has been reported that the Gardai are to be issued with Pepper spray as an alternative sourse to carrying arms or tazer guns. This measure has been brought in because of the increasing attacks on unarmed members of the force.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1023/gardai.html

About time too.

Raze_them_all · 23-10-2008 12:28PM

I think the question is how strong a pepper spray?? wasn't there cases where it weren strong enough and only angered the person more and beat the crap outta thecops??

Vain · 23-10-2008 12:29PM

It might clean the dirt out of some skangers eyes that hasn't washed in years.

Frisbee · 23-10-2008 12:32PM

They dont go around bating everyone with their batons which they've had for years.
So why do you think the attitude will change all of a sudden now they have pepper spray?

Vain · 23-10-2008 12:38PM

Frisbee wrote: »

They dont go around bating everyone with their batons which they've had for years.
So why do you think the attitude will change all of a sudden now they have pepper spray?

Batons leave marks pepper spraying doesn't:pac:

Celticfire · 23-10-2008 12:39PM

A few van loads are already on the way to Rossport....

drunkmonkey · 23-10-2008 12:45PM

Is it illegal for me to carry pepper spray?

Most Garda are good people and they need some kind of defence...but so do women, children and old people, should we not give them some pepper spray as well?

Pepper spray could very easily be abused....I'm going to say no, don't give it to them....just put more Garda on the streets...

this is abuse of pepper spray:mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10VKwULQbb8&feature=related

Dinter · 23-10-2008 12:46PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It has been reported that the Gardai are to be issued with Pepper spray as an alternative sourse to carrying arms or tazer guns. This measure has been brought in because of the increasing attacks on unarmed members of the force.

I agree that this is better choice than issuing certain members of the force with lethal weapons nevertheless I believe that this new measure must be very closely monitored.

Ok you say it's been introduced to deal with "increasing attacks on unarmed members of the force". Then you go on to say that it has to "very closely monitored".

Why?

A Garda carries the extendable ASP baton at the moment that is more than capable of splintering an elbow or indeed delivering a fatal blow. On the other hand all pepper spray will do is incapacitate you. Stop implying that this is some sort of draconian measure that's going to allow the Gardai to assault normal decent people all over the place.

It's nothing of the sort. It's a long overdue measure that might go some way to redressing the imbalance between the Gardai and the people who'd wish harm on you.

Come on Jerry Fletcher, shouldn't you be out driving your cab?

Tigger · 23-10-2008 12:51PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It has been reported that the Gardai are to be issued with Pepper spray as an alternative sourse to carrying arms or tazer guns. This measure has been brought in because of the increasing attacks on unarmed members of the force.

I agree that this is better choice than issuing certain members of the force with lethal weapons nevertheless I believe that this new measure must be very closely monitored.

In the light of this perhaps the Government can now relax our ridiculous drinking regulations in line with any normal western civilization and at the same time claw back much of its badly needed revenue.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1023/gardai.html

you wanna monitor it run monitor whether they use it on the shell to sea protestors

Dinter · 23-10-2008 12:53PM

Tigger wrote: »

you wanna monitor it run monitor whether they use it on the shell to sea protestors

Don't worry Tigger, with his extensive system of yoghurt carton and string listening devices, Run_to_da_Hills monitors everything fom his "House of Justice (back bedroom annex)".

Honey-ec · 23-10-2008 12:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wonder if it'd taste nice in soup.

Mmmmm, incapacitating...

phantom_lord · 23-10-2008 12:59PM

how embarrassing

Homer · 23-10-2008 01:00PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

this is abuse of pepper spray:mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10VKwULQbb8&feature=related

In fairness I'd have sprayed "shelwanda" too. Did you count how many times he asked her to put her hands behind her back and she resisted arrest?
Should he just have patiently waited till SHE was ready to comply with his directions?

SheroN · 23-10-2008 01:05PM

Homer wrote: »

In fairness I'd have sprayed "shelwanda" too. Did you count how many times he asked her to put her hands behind her back and she resisted arrest?
Should he just have patiently waited till SHE was ready to comply with his directions?

That wasn't an abuse of power. It was a cop with patience up holding the law. He asked the girl about 60 times to put her arm behind her back and then she bit him, so he pepper sprayed her.

Tigger · 23-10-2008 01:10PM

seamus wrote: »

When is the last time you, or anyone you know, has had a Garda do anything more than give them a raised voice or a "stand back there please"?

It takes a fairly extreme set of circumstances for the Gardai to even take out their batons. They're hardly going to be using this stuff liberally.
.

come to mayo dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6N5Fk6xaKo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h12RZtxqbo&feature=related

Gardai are to be issued with pepper spray.

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