Jeet Kune DO

Little Dragon,
I find it discouraging that you did not directly answer any of my questions. I asked (to paraphrase) what makes you think we don't hit hard? Can you share with us an insight as to how your JKD has reached the level it is at today? I was hoping you would elaborate with your own words as if I wanted Bruce Lee's, as you rightly say, I could go and read some of the books containing his notes.

You rightly point out Bruce said it was possible to beat any punch or kick with footwork (see ' Bruce Lee's commentaries on the martial way', Edited by John Little, p. 201) but I confess I haven't read anywhere that he said an opponent is entirely beatable with footwork alone, can you point me to it? If not may I again ask what brought you to the conclusion that "your students dont really seem to hit pads that hard and are beatable with footwork alone"? I actually do think it is possible to beat an opponent with footwork alone, but unless you're at a extremely high level you're chances of doing so are marginal.

As for trapping, we maybe have different views of the subject. You say,
"i understand trapping and its only for those who are compatible and lets it work but won't work angainst more than one opponent or sparring", but we have been talking about how footwork alone can possibly defeat an opponent. My understanding of trapping is that which makes movement or escape difficult. Therefore contact does not need to be made to 'trap' someone. You can trap with footwork. You can trap with feints. A skilled wordsmith can trap someone in conversation! Etc. etc. Trapping to me is not just hand or limb traps, however they do embody the essence of trapping. What are your views on this?

Regarding "as for a double pac if he moves punch him it disolves and becomes usless ", as uncomfortable as it was getting punched by Tim Tackett during a seminar, can you imagine the aftermath if I during the demonstration I had tried to punch him!

All the best,

Paul

Little Dragon, do you train with Grandmaster Dillon, aka Wally Dillon?

http://www.icbacombat.com/
I saw this website and saw a 'Little Dragon' on it, thought it might have been you.
Wally Dillon used to teach Jeet Kune Do years ago, although he seems to have rebranded now.

Hi all first time reading this forum. And find it both interesting and sometimes funny too. All these posts about how this fella is one of the best JKD fighters out there and how the other fella can beat him, and how this fellas a grand master and that fella was trained by this fella. lol etc etc
I've never studied JKD but when people make statement on how a martial artist is better than another, I wonder how this can be proved. I've had a few streetfights in my life, but never used wing chun during a fight. Why? simple really... Martial arts are deadly, only to be used as a last resort.
What I'm trying to say(and probably not too well) is if say a fella from one school was to fight another JKD fighter from another school to prove who is best then one will end up dead or seriously injured. Prob loss an eye or have crushed windpipe etc etc.
When did JKD become a martial art? I always thought its a fighting concept where you use what ever fighting style that works for you. I know there are plenty of schools all over the world that teach so called JKD. But in reality all they do is teach you bits and pieces of a mixture of martial arts. And call it JKD, normally in USA. Alot like MMA really (except MMA doesn't allow deadly strikes). This is not a reflection on any of your schools here lads, as I've never been to any. So I can't judge.
Bruce lee, Bruce lee... who really cares what Bruce lee said. He was an actor who training in Wing chun for a few years in hong Kong and went to the States. It pisses me off when people go on about Bruce less was the greatest martial artist ever. Complete rubbish. Only thing Bruce lee should be credited for is bringing Kung fu to the west. JKD was a money spinner for him, a martial arts McDonalds.
Don't get me wrong I like Bruce lee, but he's over hyped as a fighter. If he was still alive, would he be the house hold name he is now.
I see a post talking about a Grandmaster Dillon. So this guy has been training in the one kung fu style for over 25 years ya. Or is he a self appointed sifu like so many these days.

I trained for seven years with Victor Kan in Soho London. He's tenth gen Wing Chun to Yip man. He's a l grand master that teaches the traditional Wing chun training methods. He grew up with Bruce lee and the rest of Yip Mans top students. He always said Bruce was a good friend, but never as good as him as a fighter. Now I'd take that with a pinch of salt if I didn't know the man.
One of my training friends back in the day has a few books on Wing chun "Guy Edwards". My point of view was molded by him, he'd burn the ear off me on kung fu.


And don't forget martial arts are a lot more than just fighting.

But to be honest I'm not too up to date on kung fu. Haven't practiced Wing Chun in about 8 years with anyone else. (just the old center punch on my wall bag). And the reason I don't train. Most of the schools near me don't train in Wing chun, and all the others are just money spinning bull.
And I can't afford to travel to London 4 times a week to train like the old days.

not knocking anyone...just my point of few.

hi dave have to agree with you that finger jabs and punchs to throat are as good as you can get especially with more than one opponent,i mean how many one to one fights do you get on your average fri sat nite not many and grappleing is out the window.i fought for two years in mma even the instructor there said in a streetfight always stay on your feet,you can't run when your lying on the ground lol

Mick Coup wrote: »

Now that's amusing.....!

Mick

Why is that so amusing to you?

use what works/kick to the bollock,side kick to the knee, break fingers,biting,nipping lol

Mick Coup wrote: »

It's amusing to me because I am fairly certain, judging by what you have written so far, that you have not got any idea about what's 'deadly' or what isn't!

Please don't come back to me with tales of fights, or of mortal combat experience - spare me the details, I live in the real world.

Mick

I wasn't telling stories or tales of fights. I was stating the fact that anyone with any decent martial arts training, would never use it in a street fight unless they were in serious danger.
You can think what you want. You might teach students to use deadly force, but thats up to you.
I can understand teaching someone to do so if out numbered, or a mugging etc. But not for an argument that boiled over.
I've been reading your web page, and I agree with most of what your saying, but thats not right for every situation.

Going on a couple of post isn't the best way to judge someone now is it. But I'm not going to get into the whole my dad and beat your dad type rubbish.