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A Discussion of the Rules (July 14th 2008)

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  • #122
    kida
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭kida


    I assume rather than starting seperate topics rather than posting in superthreads that mods will move large topics to their own threads or users could request this to happen if it seen something is devel oping into a large story.
    Another possible suggestion might be a guardian for eeach superthread (not necesaarily a fan of that team though)


  • #123
    IrishMike
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    kida wrote: »
    Another possible suggestion might be a guardian for eeach superthread (not necesaarily a fan of that team though)

    Good idea to a point, what if the designated mod is away for a weekend or something?
    Anyway if this happens i vote Des as the mod of the Sunderland forum ;)


  • #124
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,016 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    IrishMike wrote: »
    Good idea to a point, what if the designated mod is away for a weekend or something?

    Then they post a simple message saying so and a regular mod knows to keep an eye.
    IrishMike wrote: »
    Anyway if this happens i vote Des as the mod of the Sunderland forum ;)

    +1


  • #125
    kida
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭kida


    IrishMike wrote: »
    Good idea to a point, what if the designated mod is away for a weekend or something?
    Anyway if this happens i vote Des as the mod of the Sunderland forum ;)

    someone else is asked to do it ;)

    I am suggesting a mod - just someone who asks a mod to spilt a topic or who points out to posters that it doesn't belong in the thread. Thinking more about it - it would have to a fan really to work, obviously one of the more "balanced" ones


  • #126
    GuanYin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I don't think you're discussing the soccer forum rules here, which is kinda what this thread is for.


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  • #127
    DeadSkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    Mods,
    Can somethin' be added to the rules about folk announcing who they've added to their ignore lists, I don't care, I come in here mainly to read/post about anythin' Liverpool related, not about who the feck is ignoring who.


  • #128
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    One thing I am confused about ,

    Who can start these match threads ?

    Is it only Mods who can start these or can users????

    Because if it only mods , users will be left waiting untill a mod gets around to it , this weekend is a good example .. No thread yet on the charity shield. I know it would not be the most interesting or biggest thread of the year but it is a good example of what may happen in the future, When we have to wait till late to start call possible lines ups tactics etc.


  • #129
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Anybody can start threads :) Go nuts :)


  • #130
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Cheers


  • #131
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    PHB, I think you need to read the rules thread again, you are stopping discussion on matches in super threads but the rules were ammended by GuanYin to state "NO MATCH INCIDENT DISCUSSION WILL BE TOLERATED IN SUPERTHREADS."

    i.e. discussion of general match chat is fine??????


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  • #132
    Tusky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,096 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Not being able to discuss matches in the super threads is stupid. That is surely the main point of those threads.


  • #133
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Yes and the rules were changed to allow general discussion but not discussion of big incidents e.g. sending off's, penalty decisions etc.

    But most people haven't seen the change, including PHB I think???


  • #134
    Wreck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    I have to say that I was quite surprised that this post this morning was moved from the Arsenal discussion thread to the match day thread. I wouldn't have posted it if I knew it would be moved.


  • #135
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    There's a bit of confusion about this thing which is understandable. 'Incident' creates a misleading idea somewhat, lets try to clarify...
    Matches can be discussed in match threads or match week threads that will be created on a week to week basis.

    The reason for this is to remove the "territorial" aspect of these discussions that occur in the super threads.

    This is the reason for the change.
    If Sunderland are playing Liverpool today, and Sunderland win, and somebody psots something like 'glad to see Sunderland win' in the Liverpool thread, there will be 50 people calling him a troll and the thread will go to ****e. That's why there are specific match threads.

    As PSI said:
    Of cource discussing a players recent performance or the possible team line ups etc is not discussing the match per se, so that is ok. There will be cross-over I'm sure, but when it comes to actually discussing the details and aspects of a game itself, that is what a match thread is for.

    Essentially, pre match discussion/during match discussion, post match discussion all go in the match thread.

    That would include all of the following:
    Starting Line Ups
    Predictions
    Match going on discussion (Billy scored, this formation ain't working)
    Post-match analysis

    Then general stuff, like say, what people are thinking about Alonso that is currently going on in the Liverpool thread stays in there, and if people want to make a comment relating to the last game thats fine, once its on topic in that sense.


  • #136
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Thats not what I took PSI to mean and he ammended the rule after our discussion, he said discussion of general match stuff like I think we need to make a sub etc etc is fine in the teams super threads, its just incidents that cause hassle that aren't allowed to be discussed in the super threads to stop fans going into threads just to wind up the other teams fans.

    Are you now changing this again????


  • #137
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,016 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    PSI/Guan Yin is a she.


  • #138
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Villain wrote: »
    Thats not what I took PSI to mean and he ammended the rule after our discussion, he said discussion of general match stuff like I think we need to make a sub etc etc is fine in the teams super threads, its just incidents that cause hassle that aren't allowed to be discussed in the super threads to stop fans going into threads just to wind up the other teams fans.

    Are you now changing this again????

    I think you've read too much into the change from discussion to incident.
    The discussion was removed, afaik, because we're not saying that if you are talking about Alonso in general and mention his game last week we're going to move the post.
    Incident is more specific, because it refers to any incident in the match. That would include, basically anything that happens, like a kick of the ball :)
    PSI/Guan Yin is a she.

    ok?


  • #139
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Thats not what I understood it be, have a look back and read the posts between me and PSI, no match discussion at all is just silly, so many people said it and PSI agreed so changed it to only incidents to stop people trolling and winding fans up but not stop discussion altogether. I'm 90% certain thats what She meant?


  • #140
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Villain wrote: »
    Thats not what I understood it be, have a look back and read the posts between me and PSI, no match discussion at all is just silly, so many people said it and PSI agreed so changed it to only incidents to stop people trolling and winding fans up but not stop discussion altogether. I'm 90% certain thats what She meant?

    Where? I think you're reading too much into an example she gave.
    Before that exact example was this post
    Sometimes the area will be hazy, I suggest (<insert deity> help me) you guys use common sense. Noone is going to get banned for making a mistake, worst case scenario we clear things up at the time and we learn as we go along and a post gets moved. Oh noes!!!! . Match scores, and discussion of match incidents in match threads, player form is a club thing.

    Player form was the issue in changing from discussion to incident.


  • #141
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Yes excatly so saying "Gabby is not at it today, we should get Harewood on" in the Villa thread is fine but "That should have been a peno blatent" push isn't allowed your saying only discussion of player form from PAST matches is allowed???

    TBH the fact that its this restrictive shows exactly why PSI relaxed the rules, we shouldn't be stopping people from discussing topics we should be encouraging more discussion


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  • #142
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,016 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Do the soccer mods not have enough work to do already without having to go deleting these 'discussion' posts from super threads?


  • #143
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Stupid rule the no match discussion in superthreads, I would like to discuss the game with my fellow pool fans seperately,
    Overcomplicating everything, every single thing.


  • #144
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Do the soccer mods not have enough work to do already without having to go deleting these 'discussion' posts from super threads?

    Absolutely. But this change is designed to stop the other work. There's always going to be a bit of work in changing the system, once people adjust, then this won't be an issue.
    Yes excatly so saying "Gabby is not at it today, we should get Harewood on" in the Villa thread is fine but "That should have been a peno blatent" push isn't allowed your saying only discussion of player form from PAST matches is allowed???

    No, that's not the point. You're missing it completely. Tell me where anyone said that, at all? That was one example, but in the post above it, the general point was made.
    we shouldn't be stopping people from discussing topics we should be encouraging more discussion

    Nobodies stopping anyone, just making it go in one place. It's just like moving any other off-topic post.
    Nobody likes change, but this should hopefully not only make the discussion easier to follow [one of the big complaints we got were the matches ruining super thread general discussions], stop as much fighting [due to eliminating the general crap about stop posting in my thread], and stop having multiple discussions in 3 places [as happens whenever 2 superthreads teams play [one in the Utd thread, one in the Liverpool thread, one in the general thread]
    Stupid rule the no match discussion in superthreads, I would like to discuss the game with my fellow pool fans seperately,
    Overcomplicating everything, every single thing.

    This is the very point. When this happens, people post in the Liverpool thread about the match in the liverpool thread, people think the Liverpool thread is only for Liverpool fans, and people call each other trolls, flames, and much more.
    As has been had out in the feedback thread, if you want to discuss football with only your own set of fans, boards.ie soccer forum isn't going to work too well for ya.


  • #145
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    PHB wrote: »
    It's just like moving any other off-topic post.

    but it's ON topic. . . .


  • #146
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,732 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Yep its totally OTT and I thought it have been relaxed but PHB seems to say otherwise


  • #147
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    PHB wrote: »
    This is the very point. When this happens, people post in the Liverpool thread about the match in the liverpool thread, people think the Liverpool thread is only for Liverpool fans, and people call each other trolls, flames, and much more.
    As has been had out in the feedback thread, if you want to discuss football with only your own set of fans, boards.ie soccer forum isn't going to work too well for ya.

    ok I give you love having 800 rules for every thread. good job. way to guard the board, top gun.


  • #148
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    mayordenis wrote: »
    but it's ON topic. . . .

    It's not on topic, read the first post of every superthread.


  • #149
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    you really think you're very smart,
    hows about you read the Title:
    Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

    seems like a liverpool match is liverpool team talk.


  • #150
    Tusky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,096 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Can we not have a general match thread for discussion of ALL matches but also allow discussions of matches in the superthreads ?

    This stinks of over modding when theres no need. I mean, its ridiculous. Are yea really going to go through each super thread with a fine comb and move all comments about matches to a different thread ?


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  • #151
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Slightly confused, during say, the Arsenal match today, are we allowed to discuss the match/score in the Arsenal thread or must it only be discussed in the match threads i.e. weekend match thead?


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