Gynecologist question.

Phlann wrote: »

The resulting poo was massive and I'm pretty sure I had post-natal depression for a while afterwards.

What did you name it?

NotMe wrote: »

What did you name it?

Bono, I'd imagine.

4Xcut wrote: »

Firstly, It is a disgraceful thing for any doctor of any dicipline to betray the trust of a patient.

However, it doesn't happen regualary. Car crashes do happen, plane crashes do happen, insurance scams do happen. Lots of undesireable things do happen.

If a woman doesn't want a male doctor because she's not comfortable then a female doctor should be the one to treat her. However, to say that you don't want a male doc incase he perves on you is a bit of a gerneralisation.

+1, but I think it's rash for some people to 'demand' a female doctor if their admitted into medical care. The health service of any country (not just Ireland's creaking one) has enough challenges without having to worry about the patient's 'modesty' or embarrassment. I would also argue this when religious beliefs are an issue; sure if it suits and doctors are available they can accommodate the patients needs - but the patients medical welfare is far more important. If you go into a hospital or clinic and start demanding to hand-pick the medical team based on what suits you, then you should be shown the door and advised you can get your wallet out and hire a private personal physician.

Would one rather receive medical attention now when they need it or put their embarrassment first and wait until a doctor who has an agreeable gender or ethnicity is available?

sondal wrote:

I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago. There are a largenumber of south african male doctors working in Ireland ( i read this in the Irish Times). It seems they are very mature and caring GP's.

I agree the doctor in question was completely out-of-order in expressing this opinion. It's not his place to comment on this, unless he's advising you due to a medical condition, which he clearly was not. The last time I checked blue jeans didn't cause medical problems :mad:

I'd query your reasoning behind not trusting any male doctor over a stupid comment by one individual. It would appear you didn't have much self-esteem to begin with as two years later and you still haven't dealt with it. Just becaues he was male that means all male doctors are jerks. Furthermore, you don't have to be South African to be mature and caring.

Did you report the incident to his superiors?

Originally Posted by sondal
I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago. There are a largenumber of south african male doctors working in Ireland ( i read this in the Irish Times). It seems they are very mature and caring GP's.

In fairness I had a bitchy female doctor who told me that my top makes me look pregnant. It makes everyone look pregnant It was one of those baggy ones that were in style. I havent worn it since.

hunnybunny wrote: »

Its nothing whatsoever to do with perving!

Its personal, Fitting rooms are divided into male and female, so are toilets and hospital wards. I just feel it should be the same when it comes to treating "down there" issues. They are embaressing and personal and I feel a woman is the same as me so I don t feel an issue with her. There are things you just don t want a man to see unless you want to be very intimate, if ya know what I mean:D

Same for my bikini line I want a woman to do it!

Jesus I had a hard time in France as toilets can be uni sex. Ewwwww! You can be applying your lipstick and watching a man pee infront of you:eek:! Classy!
I think it should be women only thank god I ve only lived in Ireland and Dubai I am not cut out for liberal Europe!

I lived in Dubai for a long time so there WAS NO question of a male doctor examining me. Dubai really suited me in that respect!:)

I certainly don t want a man to see me like that!:eek: Ughh forget natural birth. Cesarian all the way now!!!!!

Off topic but please tell me does everyone lose control of bodily functions whilst giving birth? Why does nobody tell you this? They sure as hell don t deal with this on TV
I ve always wondered how you d go to the toilet. Now I know

Some gob****e I know was saying how childbirth is romantic! F***ing idiot!!!

I find this attitude a bit dated and immature - I don't mean to personally insult you hunnybunny, far from it. You're free to choose as you wish, I just resent this Victorian mindset that men and women are so different that they're unable to deal with things like unisex toilets or fitting rooms.

If someone feels uncomfortable with the professional service provided by a member of the opposite sex, it is your problem, not theirs. I would also say this to a male who felt uncomfortable visiting a female GP. What should be important is whether or not the person in question did their job professionally and efficiently, not whether your delicate sensitivities are offended. If I were a doctor and someone refused treatment due to my gender, I'd have a hard time restraining myself from advising them to consider going elsewhere for treatment.

There's no such thing as perfect equality, as men and women are different beings, but some of the posts in this thread have indicated that some people feel a male doctor would not be 100% professional based on the fact that he is a man. I would argue that the professionalism of a doctor should have nothing to do with their gender, rather their actions, and tarring a particular group of doctors, or any people for that matter, with the same brush is ill-informed and immature.

Regarding childbirth, some people feel it is the most natural thing in the world, and want their partners there to share in the experience and support them. This is a personal matter, and not for everyone. While I'm against caesarean procedures unless for medical reasons, it's up to the parents and doctors to decide. Having one for cosmetic reasons or because you're afraid of the pain or effort of childbirth is just a cop out for me. It's not supposed to be a walk in the park - you're bringing another human being into the world ffs!

There's nowt as queer as folk

Firstly, thanks to Phlann for the poo/post-natal remark - I needed a good laugh all day.

Secondly - there's a lot of talk of "diseased" vagina talk on here in realtion to what a gynaecologist would be looking at all day - not all of the vaginas they see are horribly diseased. I don't know where this idea comes from. A lot of the problems they're dealing with are further in than the vagina and many of their patients would consist of pregnant women with nothing wrong with their lady bits at all. So they're not necessarily looking at "flaky, dried up, cauliflower" vaginas anyway. I can't think of anything untoward that they'd see on a vagina unless it's owner had an STD and that'd be a different doc anyway.

On topic, I dount it would make much difference to most guys in this profession when it came to going home and doing the dirty there with their wives/girlfriends. For a start they don't have to shove their faces up to "it" and go elbow deep at home (unless it's a personal choice) so I doubt it makes a difference to them.

On the whole women asking for female docors point - when I was younger I had terrible problems with periods etc and when I went to a male doctor to ask him for help (I was never weird about talking to a male doc about anything as I figure they hear it everyday and couldn't care less) he whipped out a text book, flicked down the page and told me that what was keeping me practically bed ridden and house bound for over a week a month was "pretty text book" and he didn't think it was "that unusual". Needless to say I saw a female doctor shortly afterwards who instantly understood what I was going through and prescribed me with immediate relief.

At the moment though, I have a great male GP who was great in helping me to find the right pill etc and was as understanding and lovely as any woman who may have known for herself what it felt like to be in my position.

So it all depends on the person really and not whether they're male or female. To the woman who said she wouldn't want a male doc to attend to her even if she were having a child - I doubt very much whilst in the throes of childbirth you'll be concerned about your modesty or what he's thinking. It's about the individual and their approach to patients - not their sex.

I'd say the problem would come from him becoming an expert on the good the bad and the ugly. And when he goes home to the missus, he gets very disappointed and a divorce. Like when I started working for Vodafone, I was so depressed with my crappy Sagem so I got rid of it.

For that matter what about guys with foot fetishes in shoe shops...

sondal wrote: »

Juvenal, I reported the incident to the Medical Council. However they responded with a typical dismissive reply. Howver this GP's business partner has very good connections in the HSE and ICGP (irish college of general practitioners). I was portrayed as a crank. I agree my self esteem was poor at the time, but you see, i know understand that this GP is angry with other patients too. While i posted about the incident here, i has helped me realise that there are good Male Doctors too, Maybe not in Carlow but certainly here in Dublin.

Of course there are good male doctors in Carlow. There are good male doctors in every county. Seriously, how can you even generalise like that?

hmmm... could acquired homosexuality be a symptom of gynaecology :rolleyes: