The Fishal Olympics Boxing Thread

The scoring system is the best there is. Seriously, can nobody remember how bad things were before hand.

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Anyone talking of going back to the 'paper' judging should try to remember why it was changed in the first place !! It was farcial in the extreme !!

Someone mentioned how NOW it's all subjective ??? No it's not. If you see a punch being landed you press a button. If you don't you don't. In the bad old days you got extreme subjectivity. Not alone was the fella going forward often rewarded for simply doing that, but completely non-boxing crap like your place of origin, etc. often came into it.

The computer system may not be perfect, but at least the right man tends to get the decision most of the time, unlike before.

Congrats to Ken Egan and JJ Joyce on two excellent performances. Hopefully it's a good sign of the Irish team's preparation as a whole.

sligobhoy67 wrote: »

***WARNING - POTENTIALLY RASH GENERALISATION***

The African boxers have been shiote - and they get too many places in the Olympics!!

You could've at least waited until after the Nevin and Sutherland fights

And thats NOT what the Pro game is about, lets face it

Which is why I said they're totally different

I prefer the amateur game myself. Have to laugh at someone saying amateur game is bent but then saying the pro game is better.

Each to their own though

paper judging is the best way, the key is to use good judges, for years in ireland we had a number of judges who where almost blind, im not even joking saying that, 1 reffed aswell as judged and if he heard a loud slap he would count 1 boxer, remember slaps sound louder than clean shots, and it was not always the right boxer he'd count either, in theory he should of been kept out of the ring, but judges are hard to come by.

i was in the all irelands semi's in 04 i think and lost 25-24, my corner went mad as did most the stadium and they got the score sheet from the computer, i still have it now, 4 judges scored me winner of 3 rounds well and drawing 1, the other 1 judge gave me the draw round and him the other 3 rounds well! because i had only 4 judges scoring me properly i missed out on points, he got all he should have and more imo.

On paper this would have been an obvious win, he easily won the final and has the all ireland medal, in my heart i won that! but i dont have the medal to show the kids-:(

sligobhoy67 wrote: »

meant of the ones that have already fought (hopefully thats enough to undo the jinx!)

I agree BTW. Don't mind them having the places though (think the Olympics should have a geographical spread)

Africa won 3 medals in 2004 (all by Egypt)

cowzerp wrote: »

paper judging is the best way, the key is to use good judges, for years in ireland we had a number of judges who where almost blind, im not even joking saying that, 1 reffed aswell as judged and if he heard a loud slap he would count 1 boxer, remember slaps sound louder than clean shots, and it was not always the right boxer he'd count either, in theory he should of been kept out of the ring, but judges are hard to come by.

i was in the all irelands semi's in 04 i think and lost 25-24, my corner went mad as did most the stadium and they got the score sheet from the computer, i still have it now, 4 judges scored me winner of 3 rounds well and drawing 1, the other 1 judge gave me the draw round and him the other 3 rounds well! because i had only 4 judges scoring me properly i missed out on points, he got all he should have and more imo.

On paper this would have been an obvious win, he easily won the final and has the all ireland medal, in my heart i won that! but i dont have the medal to show the kids-:(

it wasnt larry ha ha, hard luck on that fight i know what it feels like , my bro got robbed in all ireland semi on countback when he was a kid only boxed one since that. its so hard on the young kids getting robbed, also my mate has beaten about eight irish champions never won a irish title himself and only lost four fight all at the stadium to other irish champions , weird eh.

jayroyal wrote: »

it wasnt larry ha ha, hard luck on that fight i know what it feels like , my bro got robbed in all ireland semi on countback when he was a kid only boxed one since that. its so hard on the young kids getting robbed, also my mate has beaten about eight irish champions never won a irish title himself and only lost four fight all at the stadium to other irish champions , weird eh.

Larry-:) good old blind larry!

he was not involved as he was a dublin ref, they blotched out the names of the judges so we could not find out who scored badly, i got a note from the iaba saying it was a bad mistake, this got me into the irish squad at least!

The computers are awful for certain styles of fighters too, duran would of lost regularly on this system-:mad:

I know well that usually the home nation does exert an influence, but it is simply because it is the home nation. I expect that to a degree; but I can't really believe that there is actual collusion. By that token, if Ireland staged the games, are we a disgusting LOT because maybe a result or two goes our way?

On the shock result, I was more implying the fact that the loser was the WC and EC. I can fully undersatnd that it was a tough hard fight and both were capable of victory.

Can you detail a little the Qurbonov result? What weight and what accomplishments preceded the games with him, and who did he beat?