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The early bird always catches the WORM though Kingdom... Scope for an U20, I think so.. Was this not introduced in Dublin some years back....
There are too many players getting cut too easily though like Magic stated... Could you imagine a player getting cut to Senior from Inter and next minute had a great day in the Co Stroke and next minute he was 4 last week and now he is +1... That is crazy but that is what can happen.. Senior Status should be +3 to -2. Inter -3 to -8 & Junior -9 to -13 or -14..... The idea of winning three prizes to get cut from 4 or 9 to 3 or 8 is a good one although I was of the opinion that it was 3 54O/A you had to win but I must be wrong
Tipperman I've absolutely no problem with a player going down one grade and being successful, I can't stand a lad dropping two grades in one season, to me thats not practicle, it suggests the player was given the wrong handicap to begin with.
There was an U20 compeitition in Dublin when we had just left the Juveniles. It was a good competition and a comp that I thoroughly enjoyed, but it was scrapped after 3 yr I think.
What I liked about it was that you saw where you were in comparison to players of your own development, I wasn't any good in Juveniles but once I got into the adults I found my niche and started getting better and better.
I think a properly run U20's would be a success,0 -
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Jinkymagic wrote: »Hey guys just wondering there what tullamore is like. Is it a tough course? Heard it was a bit hilly, what kinda distances are we talking? Short or long holes?
Cheers for any help!
Tullamore is one of the finest courses in the land! It is a very tough course if the wind blows and my advice would be to get a practice game in before the finals jinky. The scratch cup and open happens to start tomorrow week!
1: 33m uphill green slopes slightly toward you.
2: 37m uphill flat smallish green, guarded by mounds
3: 47m straight downhill. Green guarded by big bunker. Plays shorter than distance.
4: 32m Flat hole large bunker to front.
5: 44m Massive tree on right makes pitch tricky. Greens slopes from back right to front left
6: 64m Played from top of hill to elevated green that slopes from back to front.
7: 57m Pkayed from top of hill to slightly raised green guarded by water feature and oob to the back.
8: 37m Small green set into side of hill sloping from back to front
9: 65m Played from top of hill to big green guarded by large bunker and steep drop out back
10: 48m Blindish shot played over side of hill. Large mound to front of green
11: 46m Played from top of hill down green slopes from right to left, small green
12: 59m flat hole, green elevated on left hand side and hill to the right. Long green
13: 37m. Another blind green played to a green that slopes away. big mound in front
14: 44m: Horrible hole. Uphill shot. Green has a wave in the middle (if that makes sense), large mound to front and slopes away either side
15: 57m. Slightly downhill shot.Green set into side of hill, slopes from right to left. Elevated on left side. Oob close by on left, Slight bank on right side for anything too right.
16: 48m. played along the top of the esker, green is long but slopes away on left and right. Mound to the front.
17: 60m. Green set into front of hill. Big mound to front. Green slopes towards you and slightly from left to right
18: 59m: Played from hill top, green set slightly into the hill. Big grass bunker to front. Green slopes from back right to front left.
A brilliant course, good scores can be done on a good day, but if the wind blows, here more so than any course (apart from RGSC maybe) then you will have to use your full range of skills.
I doubt there will be any records being broke here, can't remember what made the cut in 2003, but if you shot 94 in the All Ireland here I'd expect it to be in the last round and no more than 3/4 shots off the pace.0 -
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Jinkymagic wrote: »Hey guys just wondering there what tullamore is like. Is it a tough course? Heard it was a bit hilly, what kinda distances are we talking? Short or long holes?
Cheers for any help!
Jinky
Tullamore is a great test to ones pitching.. You have to be very straight to score well. The course is always in top order and greens are normally running very well... There is a variety to the shots there in the first 4 holes there are all under 50 and 6,7,9 are big tough shots that you have to be very straight. the 7th is over a water feature and is a great shot in fairness... The back nine is I find hard to score on as 10 is a very tricky shot with a launching pad of a tee box.. 11 & 12 are holes that slope from right to left. 13 is a blind shot but easy enough and then 14 is another blind shot with massive slope right. 15 is a hole I can;t stand. Go Right and your fukked and go left you may kick OB.. 16 is like 14 but with slope going left. 17 is a great hole that is abot 60m but you have to be below the hole...18 is a great finishing hole about 62m with huge mound short and slopes all over the green from back to front..
If the wind blows it will be very tough... I would think Kingdom will give a detailed description of where not to be and best place to be.... He will be one of the fav in Tullamore, but he will talk down his chances knowing him:p 0 -
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Jinkymagic wrote: »Hey guys just wondering there what tullamore is like. Is it a tough course? Heard it was a bit hilly, what kinda distances are we talking? Short or long holes?
Cheers for any help!
What did I tell you... Kingdom's description is just fantastic.. Sure doesn't he go around with a card of Tullamore just in case he is asked for a description on the course
I must print of this description now Kingdom and use it on the day he he... What about pin positions.. Anything like the 9th in Glenville or 15th0 -
Jinky
Tullamore is a great test to ones pitching.. You have to be very straight to score well. The course is always in top order and greens are normally running very well... There is a variety to the shots there in the first 4 holes there are all under 50 and 6,7,9 are big tough shots that you have to be very straight. the 7th is over a water feature and is a great shot in fairness... The back nine is I find hard to score on as 10 is a very tricky shot with a launching pad of a tee box.. 11 & 12 are holes that slope from right to left. 13 is a blind shot but easy enough and then 14 is another blind shot with massive slope right. 15 is a hole I can;t stand. Go Right and your fukked and go left you may kick OB.. 16 is like 14 but with slope going left. 17 is a great hole that is abot 60m but you have to be below the hole...18 is a great finishing hole about 62m with huge mound short and slopes all over the green from back to front..
If the wind blows it will be very tough... I would think Kingdom will give a detailed description of where not to be and best place to be.... He will be one of the fav in Tullamore, but he will talk down his chances knowing him:p
Good description Tipperman, your pitching has to be spot on or your bopped, no two ways about it. The greens are superb at the moment from what I've heard, and they will only get better from now on. I just hope the Nec do the same in Tullamore in terms of operations/organisation as they did in Glenville, because as in 2003, this has the prospects of being a classic.
As for my chances Tipperman, my focus is firmly on Clara at the moment, and once that is over I'll turn my attention to Arden. To be fair though, Aggie is the better prospect of a home shout, he is a true Tullamore man, and while I'm sure they'd be happy if I was the man to bring a medal to Arden, they'd be happier with Aggie!0 -
Tullamore is one of the finest courses in the land! It is a very tough course if the wind blows and my advice would be to get a practice game in before the finals jinky. The scratch cup and open happens to start tomorrow week!
1: 33m uphill green slopes slightly toward you.
2: 37m uphill flat smallish green, guarded by mounds
3: 47m straight downhill. Green guarded by big bunker. Plays shorter than distance.
4: 32m Flat hole large bunker to front.
5: 44m Massive tree on right makes pitch tricky. Greens slopes from back right to front left
6: 64m Played from top of hill to elevated green that slopes from back to front.
7: 57m Pkayed from top of hill to slightly raised green guarded by water feature and oob to the back.
8: 37m Small green set into side of hill sloping from back to front
9: 65m Played from top of hill to big green guarded by large bunker and steep drop out back
10: 48m Blindish shot played over side of hill. Large mound to front of green
11: 46m Played from top of hill down green slopes from right to left, small green
12: 59m flat hole, green elevated on left hand side and hill to the right. Long green
13: 37m. Another blind green played to a green that slopes away. big mound in front
14: 44m: Horrible hole. Uphill shot. Green has a wave in the middle (if that makes sense), large mound to front and slopes away either side
15: 57m. Slightly downhill shot.Green set into side of hill, slopes from right to left. Elevated on left side. Oob close by on left, Slight bank on right side for anything too right.
16: 48m. played along the top of the esker, green is long but slopes away on left and right. Mound to the front.
17: 60m. Green set into front of hill. Big mound to front. Green slopes towards you and slightly from left to right
18: 59m: Played from hill top, green set slightly into the hill. Big grass bunker to front. Green slopes from back right to front left.
A brilliant course, good scores can be done on a good day, but if the wind blows, here more so than any course (apart from RGSC maybe) then you will have to use your full range of skills.
I doubt there will be any records being broke here, can't remember what made the cut in 2003, but if you shot 94 in the All Ireland here I'd expect it to be in the last round and no more than 3/4 shots off the pace.
Kingdom
I think the Cut was -11 that particular year if memory serves me right... Your attention to detail is duly noted..0 -
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What did I tell you... Kingdom's description is just fantastic.. Sure doesn't he go around with a card of Tullamore just in case he is asked for a description on the course
I must print of this description now Kingdom and use it on the day he he... What about pin positions.. Anything like the 9th in Glenville or 15th
Thats only cause I'm only there once a month so my mind needs a refresher course every other day
I won't be privvy to any knowledge bout pin positions, the only thing is the they're not too pushed on changing pin positions so I'd say theyll be changed for the open and then left till the friday before the all ireland.0 -
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Wow thanks guys, i was just hoping for a brief summary :eek: This should help big time as i doubt ill make it up for the scratch cup. Luckily for me im only playing in the inter section I was senior last year but didnt play much due to the leaving cert so i got a shot back. Hopefully ill be in with a good chance on the 26th july!
The last 4 inter winners have been from cork and all have been my age so if this pattern continues i should have a good chance!
Thanks a million guys!!0
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