Why do Men hate Sex & The City?

Rowley Birkin QC · 13-05-2008 07:08PM

They talk about shoes. Simple as that.

And yer one looks like a foot.:D:D

meglome · 13-05-2008 07:08PM

We were just talking about this the other day as the movie is coming out. I wouldn't bother to watch it if I was there on my own but if the girlfriend is watching I inhale. I think it's pretty funny.

The Real B-man · 13-05-2008 07:10PM

Kold wrote: »

What's to like? A bunch a c***s who love shoes and sex and if they were real would be the worst type of human beings.

I don't understand half the crap aimed at female audiences, soap operas and 'skinny celeb' "documentaries" (lolz).

Perfect

JC 2K3 · 13-05-2008 07:10PM

Partially fear of being seen as "gay" or "unmanly" if they admitted to liking it.

Partially because it really isn't a great show. The characters are two dimensional and boring. Personally, after watching it, I'm not thinking, "wow, women are really sexually liberated and independant these days", I'm thinking, "wow, are women generally like this these days? Because if they are, they're really retarded...."

monkeyfudge · 13-05-2008 07:12PM

And the only good things Kim Cattrall ever did were Big Trouble in Little China and Star Trek VI.

WindSock · 13-05-2008 07:14PM

Have you ever seen The Boy Who could Fly?
Sarah Jessica Parker was in that. I watched it heaps when I was a young 'un. Bloody terrible movie

monkeyfudge · 13-05-2008 07:17PM

Was she also in 'My Left Foot'?

Caoimhín · 13-05-2008 07:18PM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Was she also in 'My Left Foot'?

Na that was Daniel Day-Lewis playing Christy Brown, looks like her alright.

WindSock · 13-05-2008 07:19PM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Was she also in 'My Left Foot'?

No, I think it was Footloose.

Dragan · 13-05-2008 07:22PM

WindSock wrote: »

I know it's a show aimed at a largely female audience, but what is it about the programme you dislike so much?
I enjoy watching it every now and again, but I find it impossible to watch when himself is around, which is crap because I compromise for his manly man shows.

It simply was not written with a straight male audience in mind. To capitalise on some markets it can help to isolate one, gives you less ground to cover. Sex and the City simply would not have worked if not written as it is.

It's not that men don't like it because it wants to portray women in a light that women assume we don't want them shown in, it just lacks very little of interest to us. From my point of few the actresses are not very attractive ( with the except of the whoever players Charlotte ) so it doesn't offer much eye candy.

My last two ex's have been big fans and i have seen a lot of episodes of it ( it's only fair as they would end up watching my shows at times ) so i'm not dimissing it out of hand and am aware of the plotlines and writing etc in the show. It can be funny at times because sometimes humour is a pretty universal thing but it simply lacks what i, as a viewer, like in a show.

monkeyfudge · 13-05-2008 07:25PM

Star Lord · 13-05-2008 07:25PM

JackieO wrote: »

Because its a show about women, and they're various antics and problems etc. There is no real male leads and the male parts are totally ancillary to the 4 leading females lives whom the show revolves around.

Ps. Wibbs - I really don't think most men are even a fraction as deep as your last post would suggest.

So, so wrong that I don't even know where to start. Are you sure that the men you've met haven't really just been cavemen? Most men don't like the show because of the two dimensional characters that are so shallow that you can almost see through them, coupled with ridiculous decision making by the characters, and comedy that never fails to fall flat...

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Also the Beauty and the Beast TV series was awesome.

It was FANTASTIC, but then it did have Ron Perlman...

monkeyfudge wrote: »

And the only good things Kim Cattrall ever did were Big Trouble in Little China and Star Trek VI.

And a screechy role in Porkys...

Sarah Jessica Parkey, yesterday

Blush_01 · 13-05-2008 07:43PM

D'ja know, I'd prefer to spend 2 hours in the cinema watching Top Gear. At least I'd know I was going to have a good laugh.

Wibbs · 13-05-2008 08:00PM

JackieO wrote: »

Because its a show about women, and they're various antics and problems etc. There is no real male leads and the male parts are totally ancillary to the 4 leading females lives whom the show revolves around.

i dunno about that. They're clearly so ancillary that they're almost the entire focus of the show. That and shoes and such.
It's mostly about how hard it is to get a man, get the right man, keep a man, how to know how he feels, how she feels about him etc.

If the men and talk about the men was a tiny part of it or done for laughs I could see your point. It isn't though. OK the men individually are for the most part are ancillary characters(though mr big is one of the exceptions), the concept of their need for a man to define who they are as women is probably the biggest "character" of them all. Even their friendships for the most part are viewed through that prism.

Therefore, men not the centre of the universe in S&TC as its all about the female perspective and THIS is why men don't like it!!

It really isn't. If it is the female perspective to that degree some women would do well to apologise to men and other women and hand back the vote.

Ps. Wibbs - I really don't think most men are even a fraction as deep as your last post would suggest.

Actually if we're taliking about men not boys(not really an age thing either) a goodly proportion are. OK water finds it's own level and all that so if you talk about this stuff, you'll tend to fall in with similar.

Then again in that conversation I referenced before I knew only two of the guys out of maybe 15. Guys of a fairly wide spread of ages and backgrounds. We discussed far more "deep" subjects than SATC too. Fatherhood, the nature of love and the meaning of life were knocking about before the beer and the talk of tight bottoms took over...

It would be all too obvious of me to remind you how many of the great thinkers, poets, writers, painters philosophers etc were and are women? NOt bad for a bunch of knuckledraggers.

Maybe some men reduce that side of themselves around women as experience may tell us it sadly isn't as fruitful as being obvious and crass in a lot of such company. Either that or as DamoElDiablo wrote you've only dealt with woolly backed cavemen types. If so that's a pity.

Dragan · 13-05-2008 08:02PM

And another great post from Wibbs.

stovelid · 13-05-2008 08:02PM

I like it tbh. I would hazard a guess that some blokes hate it because they should.

Wibbs · 13-05-2008 08:04PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

Too many double-negatives make Baby Jesus cry and my head hurt. What are you saying in man-speak?

"Top gear is OK it wouldn't kill me to watch it". Further translation of woman into man comes with a fee.

pookie82 · 13-05-2008 08:25PM

Should the real question not be "why do women like it????". Unless you're an uneducated, vacuous, shoe obsessed half wit you really shouldn't find it entertaining, or have anything in common with the characters.

The aim of the show is clearly to "show the world" that women talk about sex, enjoy sex and are sexually liberated creatures who can sleep around will nilly and not give it a second thought. Which might be fair enough if their lives had any other substance. But what do these newly liberated, well educated ladies do all day??? Talk about men. And talk about men. And sometimes men. And then shoes. But mostly men.

Plus, they all end up in love at the end. Happily settled with Mr. Perfect as if their aim was not, in the first place, to try to show that women can survive without them. Even the nymphomaniac Samantha finds true love. I'd have a hell of a lot more respect for the show if they all ended up (or at least two of them) cynical and single and miserable. That would be consistent.

But what does their "girly" audience want to see?? After all that detatched having of sex and girl power bull****, turns out all they really needed was love. Awwwwww.

Bluuuugggggggggghhhhhhhhh. It's everything that's wrong with women. Yet watch them team into the cinema in their droves next week to sniffle into their hankies at what I'm sure will be the end result - a nice happy loved up ending.

WindSock · 13-05-2008 08:46PM

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Dlite · 13-05-2008 08:51PM

Well Pookie you seem to know a lot about S&TC for such a hater!!.

I hate all those soaps Eastenders, Coronation Street, etc - its depressing t.v and I think the women’s roles in these types of soaps are dated and full of women in dead end situations -nothing to aspire to.

S&TC, Desperate housewives are funny! I personally think they show you that you don't need men to have a good time. It's about escapism and I would rather escape to Wisteria Lane than down the Rovers Return or the Vic.

For adventure give me "The Unit" any day!!

jcoote · 13-05-2008 08:56PM

its amazing reding all the comments the percerption people have of this show

I'm a bloke who avoids girly shows/movies at all costs but SATC isn't about women going out looking for sex or finding the 'mr right'.

Its about how people react to circumstanes within a relationship and (somethin we've all been through) liking someone but not being able to stick with em cos people are insane

If people stopped judging things on what they percieve there'd be about 10 posts in this thread.

rovert · 13-05-2008 09:08PM

jcoote wrote: »

its amazing reding all the comments the percerption people have of this show

I'm a bloke who avoids girly shows/movies at all costs but SATC isn't about women going out looking for sex or finding the 'mr right'.

Its about how people react to circumstanes within a relationship and (somethin we've all been through) liking someone but not being able to stick with em cos people are insane

If people stopped judging things on what they percieve there'd be about 10 posts in this thread.

They have really gotten to you havent they?

allabouteve · 13-05-2008 09:13PM

I've only watched it a few times and it's ok, but what really gets me is the fact that these women's worlds are so tiny. Everything they discuss, think about, do, is only about themselves. The shoes are art, I'll give you that, but who really wants such self obsession in a friend? Such narrowness? I know it's not real life, but if it was I'd be very unimpressed with these women as people.

Gordon · 13-05-2008 09:20PM

I like it and I'm a guy. Does anyone think that Big reminds them of The Corinthian's suave way?

Seraphina · 13-05-2008 09:28PM

maybe if Big went for women less than half his age too hehehe! :P

jayteecork · 13-05-2008 09:35PM

Really bad show.

I don't know of any woman who likes it.

Probably because the women I know have some degree of intelligence.

IanCurtis · 13-05-2008 09:38PM

WindSock wrote: »

I know it's a show aimed at a largely female audience, but what is it about the programme you dislike so much?
I enjoy watching it every now and again, but I find it impossible to watch when himself is around, which is crap because I compromise for his manly man shows.

I don't think it's too bad actually, but isn't it supposed to be about this dynamic group of independent women, yet all their happiness depends on them having a bloke!

professore · 13-05-2008 09:46PM

Dlite wrote: »

Well Pookie you seem to know a lot about S&TC for such a hater!!.

I hate all those soaps Eastenders, Coronation Street, etc - its depressing t.v and I think the women’s roles in these types of soaps are dated and full of women in dead end situations -nothing to aspire to.

S&TC, Desperate housewives are funny! I personally think they show you that you don't need men to have a good time. It's about escapism and I would rather escape to Wisteria Lane than down the Rovers Return or the Vic.

For adventure give me "The Unit" any day!!

There is no comparison between S&TC and Desperate housewives .... the women in DH live in somewhat of a real world, plus it's funny - S&TC is just boring and empty ... at least that's my opinion. Even the "sex" is not worth watching.

experiMental · 13-05-2008 09:48PM

I'm a guy.

I don't like Sex and the City because:
1.) it's too sleazy
2.) it hasn't got any pseudointellectual quips and comments and insight
3.) it's trying to be funny but it isn't
4.) the ladies there are far too old for my liking
5.) It has no reference to any things that I like, i.e anything that's not concerned with bitchiness
and finally...
6.) it hasn't got Leonard Nimoy in ANY role. ( a major let-down. )

LovelyTom · 13-05-2008 10:14PM

I've watched it a few times. I'm a guy and I like it! I'd say most guys wouldn't give it the chance because they're too macho or if they do watch it they won't tell anyone.

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