Dealing with Scumbags outside Supermarkets etc

trueirish · 16-03-2008 08:46PM

hi guys i think there is only one way of dealing with these type of people if the law dont and thats by force if there in a group out side a shop show up with a bigger group and just intimedate them till they move and just keep doing it till they piss off and if not just use ur boot

Dave! · 16-03-2008 09:01PM

Just be confident, don't be intimidated, glance at them as you pass by (ie. don't be staring at the ground), and try to look as though you're not phased at all... pretty soon you cease to be phased.

Be a butterfly!

SoupyNorman · 16-03-2008 09:03PM

jayteecork wrote: »

Just wondering about this.
My local Super Valu/Chipper/Video Store always has hoards of teenage scumbags loitering outside, intimadating passers by and calling anyone who doesn't look like them "******".

What to do?
If you confront them, isn't that exactly what they're looking for?
If you ignore them, why should you let them get away with their obscene, repulsive behaviour?

I don't know what to do.
The mentality of these half wit imbeciles is hard to fathom.

Confront - No!

Ignore - NO!

My advice is to do as Tom Greene did in 'FGF' and "get inside the animal"!

If you become one you will not attract the intimidation.

My advice is to do some recon in shops such as 'Tommys World of Wonder' to observe them in their natural habitat, you should learn how to mimic the behaviour of these rodents more easily.

utick · 16-03-2008 09:04PM

dublindude wrote: »

Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NSwOlrhoI

not quite the same, but similar ideas at work..... TAD (tallaght against drugs)

Kernel · 16-03-2008 09:05PM

dublindude wrote: »

Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.

They tried that, Kristallnacht it was called. Eventually over 1% of the worlds population ended up dead....

Rb · 16-03-2008 09:12PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

Just be confident, don't be intimidated, glance at them as you pass by (ie. don't be staring at the ground), and try to look as though you're not phased at all... pretty soon you cease to be phased.

Be a butterfly!

I bet you have it down to an art, Dave

Dave! · 16-03-2008 09:29PM

Nah I just loaf them and walk off laughing! Works like a charm!

jayteecork · 16-03-2008 09:31PM

This is the OP.
This is certainly NOT a tirade against the "working class", even if such a class distinction exists.
To me "working class" means Joe Duffy, The Beatles etc.

My problem is the distinct Irish individual known as the scumbag. I'm sure they also come from "middle class" backgrounds as well.

I don't want to hear this crap about lack of facilities, social deprivity etc.
These people possess the scumbag gene - a gene with the sole purpose of invoking behaviour in its hosts to cause untold misery to those around them.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-03-2008 09:36PM

jayteecork wrote: »

Just wondering about this.
My local Super Valu/Chipper/Video Store always has hoards of teenage scumbags loitering outside, intimadating passers by and calling anyone who doesn't look like them "******".

What to do?
If you confront them, isn't that exactly what they're looking for?
If you ignore them, why should you let them get away with their obscene, repulsive behaviour?

I don't know what to do.
The mentality of these half wit imbeciles is hard to fathom.

Provide them with something worthwhile to do?

Lockstep · 16-03-2008 09:36PM

jayteecork wrote: »

This is the OP.
This is certainly NOT a tirade against the "working class", even if such a class distinction exists.
To me "working class" means Joe Duffy, The Beatles etc.

If your referring to my "Egad!" posts I assure you I wasn't taking it as a serious diatribe.

I just saw a chance to live through my alter ego as Lord Cian Fyffe-Ponsonby-Fyffe.

wiredup · 16-03-2008 09:38PM

rb_ie wrote: »

There's a load of knacker kids who hang around the shop where I'm living at the moment, they look and act rough and think they're all hard men, but won't do anything if you just ignore them.

I put it down to the lack of facilities in the area for young people, I mean there's literally fck all for them to do.

I think there is more to do than there ever was so I don't buy that excuse.
The problem is lack of direction and lack of discipline. They are simply allowed to get away with it. We have a whole generation of mingers and mingers breed mingers.

Simple solution. Young people who do not tow the line and attempt to do something with their lives will be automatically placed in national service at 16.
I'm sure for most scum bags that destiny alone will encourage them to get their act together and as for the dedicated scumbag, it might just turn them into decent citizens. As for the rest, I agree, a good cull is the way to go.

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 16-03-2008 09:41PM

jayteecork wrote: »

My problem is the distinct Irish individual known as the scumbag. I'm sure they also come from "middle class" backgrounds as well.

no

Obviously there are unpleasant people from the higher levels of society as well, but the term 'scumbags' is pretty specific to the working class.

ReignInBlack · 16-03-2008 09:41PM

Usually,as I tend to be a cheeky **** when provoked,I end up getting hopped by a few at once.I just leave them beat me up,then when they stop just stand up and continue as though nothing had happened...after a while they just get really bored of me,then I unexpectedly strike back

Lockstep · 16-03-2008 09:48PM

wiredup wrote: »

Simple solution. Young people who do not tow the line and attempt to do something with their lives will be automatically placed in national service at 16.
I'm sure for most scum bags that destiny alone will encourage them to get their act together and as for the dedicated scumbag, it might just turn them into decent citizens. As for the rest, I agree, a good cull is the way to go.

Instead of evil little pikeys we will have evil little pikeys who are organised!

Kernel · 16-03-2008 09:49PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Provide them with something worthwhile to do?

They don't like working, education or community involvement... so that leaves us with drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk. Oh and sometimes there's sports.

AARRRGH · 16-03-2008 09:52PM

Sadly, the only thing these scumbags understand is violence. (As that interview on Prime Time showed, they don't mess with "The Monk".)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-03-2008 09:58PM

Kernel wrote: »

They don't like working, education or community involvement... so that leaves us with drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk. Oh and sometimes there's sports.

Something that they're passionate about as opposed to somehting that jsut sweeps them out of the way. You want to just conform them? Let me know how that works out for you.

drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk.

Oh, sorry.... you did.

Toto Wolfcastle · 16-03-2008 11:50PM

OP, you live in the same place (Glanmire?) as I do as far as I can tell (I'm not a stalker, just know from previous posts!) and I can tell you that a lot of those people do come from respectable families who live in the most expensive estates. (Money doesn't buy you class!)

A few of them have Juvenile Liaison Officers who check up on them every once in awhile but while I wouldn't suggest you confront them, I think the majority of them are pretty harmless.

Gummy Panda · 17-03-2008 12:15AM

I wouldn't confront them tbh.

I did it before to a group of nine. Loss my cool and grabbed one of them. Nine of them jumped on me so i just started punching the ring leader in the face. When the others seen him drop like a ton of bricks they ran to save their own necks. I grabbed on running and ripped some of his jacket of his back lol

Even though i ended up okay, they could have easily had a knife and stabbed me. Not worth taking the rise these days.

The guy · 17-03-2008 12:16AM

Post a thread on boards.ie, guaranteed success.

the_syco · 17-03-2008 12:29AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You want to just conform them?

If it means them getting a job, then yes, yes I do.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-03-2008 02:12AM

the_syco wrote: »

If it means them getting a job, then yes, yes I do.

It doesn't

jayteecork · 17-03-2008 02:18AM

janeybabe wrote: »

OP, you live in the same place (Glanmire?) as I do as far as I can tell (I'm not a stalker, just know from previous posts!) and I can tell you that a lot of those people do come from respectable families who live in the most expensive estates. (Money doesn't buy you class!)

A few of them have Juvenile Liaison Officers who check up on them every once in awhile but while I wouldn't suggest you confront them, I think the majority of them are pretty harmless.

Glanmire is right.
There must have been about 20-30 of them in one gang outside Power Video/Denny's earlier.

kelle · 17-03-2008 10:06AM

A couple of years ago, I loved going for walks in our local park. But a gang of teenagers started gathering there every evening and others felt intimidated. One day, I was in there and saw the gang - then I recognised one girl. I walked over and squealed "Anna! I can't believe it's you. Last time I saw you, you were only a little girl. How is your mammy and daddy?" To which she replied sheepishly "Fine!". Then I asked her to introduce me to her friends. She mentioned 2 names, and I asked one of the lads was he the son of so and so. He replied "Yes", then I proceeded to mention how I knew his parents and grandparents very well, and remembered him as a toddler who was into Noddy!
Before i knew it, the rest of the gang had scarpered!

Peyton Manning · 17-03-2008 10:15AM

Its all well and good to say 'confront them and they'll f*ck off ', but thats not always the case, as 2 polish men unfortunately found out in dublin not too long ago.

I f*cking hate scumbags.

green123 · 17-03-2008 11:08AM

nesf wrote: »

I'm sure he appreciates to achieve the above that a massive cull would be needed.

dublindude wrote: »

Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

surely most people would agree that killing scumbags would be for the greater good of society

if the goverment held a referendum most would be in favour

start lobbying politicians

Fad · 17-03-2008 01:03PM

kelle wrote: »

A couple of years ago, I loved going for walks in our local park. But a gang of teenagers started gathering there every evening and others felt intimidated. One day, I was in there and saw the gang - then I recognised one girl. I walked over and squealed "Anna! I can't believe it's you. Last time I saw you, you were only a little girl. How is your mammy and daddy?" To which she replied sheepishly "Fine!". Then I asked her to introduce me to her friends. She mentioned 2 names, and I asked one of the lads was he the son of so and so. He replied "Yes", then I proceeded to mention how I knew his parents and grandparents very well, and remembered him as a toddler who was into Noddy!
Before i knew it, the rest of the gang had scarpered!

if only i knew knew my local scum like that:)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-03-2008 01:58PM

green123 wrote: »

surely most people would agree that killing scumbags would be for the greater good of society

if the goverment held a referendum most would be in favour

start lobbying politicians

Ah, but who's to say who's a scumbag and who isn't it? Are you a sumbag if you advocate violence? Or participate in it's execution?

17-03-2008 01:59PM

They have those mosquito things up at my college to stop people from smoking at the front doors. It works, but is damned irritating to everyone else.

This whole thing sounds like the plot for the film Hot Fuzz

Jeapy · 17-03-2008 03:34PM

WindSock wrote: »

Write to the shop and request they put up a mosquito.

Them things are bloody awful! theres one outside GMIT and i could hear it when trying to do an exam last May. I think they do work though- just wish i couldnt hear it!
In Rahoon in Galway a few years ago, I was asked by a group of young'uns to buy fags for them. I just ignored them and got a lollipop thrown at me and stuck in my hair for my trouble! Damn skangers!

Dealing with Scumbags outside Supermarkets etc

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