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Dealing with Scumbags outside Supermarkets etc

  • 16-03-2008 6:28pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering about this.
    My local Super Valu/Chipper/Video Store always has hoards of teenage scumbags loitering outside, intimadating passers by and calling anyone who doesn't look like them "******".

    What to do?
    If you confront them, isn't that exactly what they're looking for?
    If you ignore them, why should you let them get away with their obscene, repulsive behaviour?

    I don't know what to do.
    The mentality of these half wit imbeciles is hard to fathom.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Raspberry


    Confront them. They will be more afraid of confrontation than anyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    In my experience its never worth confronting them.
    They're only there looking for a reaction.
    These wasters are sickening alright though. They seem to be everywhere. Why do the shops that they hang around put up with them indtimidating customers? Surely the guards can do something about them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    As with online stuff, never feed the trolls. They're just looking for a reaction from you, just ignore them and they'll get hoarse after a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    After what happened to the two Polish guys in Drimnagh, the Gards or Government should really be doing something about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Write to the shop and request they put up a mosquito.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Raspberry


    Mizu_Ger wrote: »
    After what happened to the two Polish guys in Drimnagh, the Gards or Government should really be doing something about it.
    Yeah, this is a good point. If we stop young kids hanging around outside supermarkets, it will probably stop people getting stabbed in the head and it might even put an end to racism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Give them the nib of your Brogans up the hole,that'll shift 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    There is only one way to deal with the lower class.



    Hitch up your walking spats and lapidate the little illegitimates in the physiognomy with one's rambling cane. Then abquatulate before the peelers arrive.

    That will learn them.


    Raspberry wrote: »
    it might even put an end to racism.
    Yeah................sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Raspberry wrote: »
    Yeah, this is a good point. If we stop young kids hanging around outside supermarkets, it will probably stop people getting stabbed in the head and it might even put an end to racism.

    There's no need to be so sarcastic. I'm sure he appreciates to achieve the above that a massive cull would be needed.

    Concentration camps are also useful against the causes of racism you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    WindSock wrote: »
    Write to the shop and request they put up a mosquito.
    Yeah because those only affect skangers :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Ignore them, they will probably end up picking on the wrong person someday. Shop owners could tell them to bugger off but might be worried of a backlash so probably don't think it is worth the hassle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Yeah because those only affect skangers :rolleyes:

    Yeah because who else likes to loiter outside supermarkets for a long time but skangers and old half deaf people. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Raspberry wrote: »
    Confront them. They will be more afraid of confrontation than anyone else.

    Also, anyone that calls you names isn't really your freind. Real beauty is on the inside, cheaters never prosper and just be yourself and everyone will like you just fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    There is only one way to deal with the lower class.



    Hitch up your walking spats and lapidate the little illegitimates in the physiognomy with one's rambling cane. Then abquatulate before the peelers arrive.

    That will learn them.

    But sir! That would necessitate close proximity with their proletarian hides, risking contraction of dropsy, polio or body lice. Better to blast them with one's blunderbuss from a moving hansom!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    WindSock wrote: »
    Yeah because who else likes to loiter outside supermarkets for a long time but skangers and old half deaf people. :pac:
    You don't have to be waiting outside for a long time to be annoyed by a loud high-pitched noise designed specifically to annoy people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    There is only one way to deal with the lower class.

    Hitch up your walking spats and lapidate the little illegitimates in the physiognomy with one's rambling cane. Then abquatulate before the peelers arrive.

    That will learn them.
    QUOTE]

    Easy said than done and if only it were so simple .Dozens of good decent people all over the uk have died in the last year or so as a result of confronting 2 , 3 or more scumbags .The life sentence's handed out to some as a result of murder /manslaughter do not seem to bother them in the slightest .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    But sir! That would necessitate close proximity with their proletarian hides, risking contraction of dropsy, polio or body lice. Better to blast them with one's blunderbuss from a moving hansom!

    Egad!

    A more capital idea would be to lambaste the onanists in the testicles and show them that one is as corybantic as a purveyor of millinery. The little ragamuffins seem to be under the general assumption that the municpal area in some way constitutes their own property.


    That will certainly push them in the right direction and show them that their lives are worth jack excrement.











    latchyco wrote: »
    Easy said than done and if only it were so simple .Dozens of good decent people all over the uk have died in the last year or so as a result of confronting 2 , 3 or more scumbags .The life sentence's handed out to some as a result of murder /manslaughter do not seem to bother them in the slightest .


    Mate, I was joking. Surely the language I was using gives an insight into the fact I am not being serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    latchyco wrote: »
    Easy said than done and if only it were so simple .Dozens of good decent people all over the uk have died in the last year or so as a result of confronting 2 , 3 or more scumbags .The life sentence's handed out to some as a result of murder /manslaughter do not seem to bother them in the slightest .

    :rolleyes:
    I think he may have been extracting the urine there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

    I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    jimbo78 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    I think he may have been extracting the urine there

    Fornicate that ordure. The gutter snipes can calcitrate their antics up their fundaments. When it's micturating down outside and one has caught scrofula from a lower class harlot, there can be no greater joy than cudgeling them with the length of drive chain for ones Muller 1.5 HP Excelsior.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    dublindude wrote: »
    Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

    I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.
    You have clearly put a bit of thought into this dublindude.

    I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletters


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Mate, I was joking. Surely the language I was using gives an insight into the fact I am not being serious.

    Oh cool , i know you were joking , i was just elaborating a lil more serious perhaps on a subject close to my/our hearts :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Clytus


    saw this on SKY news...and it proved itself

    http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    There's a load of knacker kids who hang around the shop where I'm living at the moment, they look and act rough and think they're all hard men, but won't do anything if you just ignore them.

    I put it down to the lack of facilities in the area for young people, I mean there's literally fck all for them to do.

    If they're aggressive or actually try to do anything, just go for the one who looks like the ring leader and the rest will run away.

    Well, this is applicable to my area, I don't know how well it'd go down in inner city Dublin or actually rough areas, could get you shanked I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Clytus wrote: »
    saw this on SKY news...and it proved itself

    http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/

    the thing is it CANT only be heard by the young, it can be heard by people who as a rule have looked after their hearing


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    dublindude wrote: »
    Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

    I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.


    im in! contrary to popular belief, violence solves pretty much everything! and evn if it dusnt, make me feel alot better!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    jimbo78 wrote: »
    I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletters
    im in! contrary to popular belief, violence solves pretty much everything! and evn if it dusnt, make me feel alot better!:D

    It'll cost you a thanks. Don't make me have to kill you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    OK jimbo, you're in. You can logon at http://www.kos.ie/

    I've disguised the website so it's furniture for retards or something, but you'll find instructions for the next attack there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    dublindude wrote: »
    OK jimbo, you're in. You can logon at http://www.kos.ie/

    I've disguised the website so it's furniture for retards or something, but you'll find instructions for the next attack there.

    Score!
    Thanks again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    dublindude wrote: »
    OK jimbo, you're in. You can logon at http://www.kos.ie/

    I've disguised the website so it's furniture for retards or something, but you'll find instructions for the next attack there.

    I highly endorse this event and/or product.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 trueirish


    hi guys i think there is only one way of dealing with these type of people if the law dont and thats by force if there in a group out side a shop show up with a bigger group and just intimedate them till they move and just keep doing it till they piss off and if not just use ur boot :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Just be confident, don't be intimidated, glance at them as you pass by (ie. don't be staring at the ground), and try to look as though you're not phased at all... pretty soon you cease to be phased.

    Be a butterfly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Just wondering about this.
    My local Super Valu/Chipper/Video Store always has hoards of teenage scumbags loitering outside, intimadating passers by and calling anyone who doesn't look like them "******".

    What to do?
    If you confront them, isn't that exactly what they're looking for?
    If you ignore them, why should you let them get away with their obscene, repulsive behaviour?

    I don't know what to do.
    The mentality of these half wit imbeciles is hard to fathom.


    Confront - No!

    Ignore - NO!

    My advice is to do as Tom Greene did in 'FGF' and "get inside the animal"!

    If you become one you will not attract the intimidation.

    My advice is to do some recon in shops such as 'Tommys World of Wonder' to observe them in their natural habitat, you should learn how to mimic the behaviour of these rodents more easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭utick


    dublindude wrote: »
    Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

    I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NSwOlrhoI

    not quite the same, but similar ideas at work..... TAD (tallaght against drugs)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    dublindude wrote: »
    Wouldn't it just be class if a vigilante group was formed which randomly killed scumbags...

    I even have a catchy name for them: KOS (as in Chaos). Killers of scum.

    They tried that, Kristallnacht it was called. Eventually over 1% of the worlds population ended up dead.... ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    DaveMcG wrote: »
    Just be confident, don't be intimidated, glance at them as you pass by (ie. don't be staring at the ground), and try to look as though you're not phased at all... pretty soon you cease to be phased.

    Be a butterfly!
    I bet you have it down to an art, Dave :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Nah I just loaf them and walk off laughing! Works like a charm!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    This is the OP.
    This is certainly NOT a tirade against the "working class", even if such a class distinction exists.
    To me "working class" means Joe Duffy, The Beatles etc.

    My problem is the distinct Irish individual known as the scumbag. I'm sure they also come from "middle class" backgrounds as well.

    I don't want to hear this crap about lack of facilities, social deprivity etc.
    These people possess the scumbag gene - a gene with the sole purpose of invoking behaviour in its hosts to cause untold misery to those around them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Just wondering about this.
    My local Super Valu/Chipper/Video Store always has hoards of teenage scumbags loitering outside, intimadating passers by and calling anyone who doesn't look like them "******".

    What to do?
    If you confront them, isn't that exactly what they're looking for?
    If you ignore them, why should you let them get away with their obscene, repulsive behaviour?

    I don't know what to do.
    The mentality of these half wit imbeciles is hard to fathom.

    Provide them with something worthwhile to do?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    jayteecork wrote: »
    This is the OP.
    This is certainly NOT a tirade against the "working class", even if such a class distinction exists.
    To me "working class" means Joe Duffy, The Beatles etc.

    If your referring to my "Egad!" posts I assure you I wasn't taking it as a serious diatribe.

    I just saw a chance to live through my alter ego as Lord Cian Fyffe-Ponsonby-Fyffe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭wiredup


    rb_ie wrote: »
    There's a load of knacker kids who hang around the shop where I'm living at the moment, they look and act rough and think they're all hard men, but won't do anything if you just ignore them.

    I put it down to the lack of facilities in the area for young people, I mean there's literally fck all for them to do.

    I think there is more to do than there ever was so I don't buy that excuse.
    The problem is lack of direction and lack of discipline. They are simply allowed to get away with it. We have a whole generation of mingers and mingers breed mingers.

    Simple solution. Young people who do not tow the line and attempt to do something with their lives will be automatically placed in national service at 16.
    I'm sure for most scum bags that destiny alone will encourage them to get their act together and as for the dedicated scumbag, it might just turn them into decent citizens. As for the rest, I agree, a good cull is the way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    jayteecork wrote: »
    My problem is the distinct Irish individual known as the scumbag. I'm sure they also come from "middle class" backgrounds as well.

    no

    Obviously there are unpleasant people from the higher levels of society as well, but the term 'scumbags' is pretty specific to the working class.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ReignInBlack


    Usually,as I tend to be a cheeky **** when provoked,I end up getting hopped by a few at once.I just leave them beat me up,then when they stop just stand up and continue as though nothing had happened...after a while they just get really bored of me,then I unexpectedly strike back ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    wiredup wrote: »

    Simple solution. Young people who do not tow the line and attempt to do something with their lives will be automatically placed in national service at 16.
    I'm sure for most scum bags that destiny alone will encourage them to get their act together and as for the dedicated scumbag, it might just turn them into decent citizens. As for the rest, I agree, a good cull is the way to go.

    Instead of evil little pikeys we will have evil little pikeys who are organised!


    funny-pictures-zomg-run-cat-woman-screams.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Provide them with something worthwhile to do?

    They don't like working, education or community involvement... so that leaves us with drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk. Oh and sometimes there's sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Sadly, the only thing these scumbags understand is violence. (As that interview on Prime Time showed, they don't mess with "The Monk".)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Kernel wrote: »
    They don't like working, education or community involvement... so that leaves us with drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk. Oh and sometimes there's sports.

    Something that they're passionate about as opposed to somehting that jsut sweeps them out of the way. You want to just conform them? Let me know how that works out for you.
    drinking, drugs, robbing, joyriding, smashing social amenities and spawning with teenage mothers of a similar ilk.
    Oh, sorry.... you did.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    OP, you live in the same place (Glanmire?) as I do as far as I can tell (I'm not a stalker, just know from previous posts!) and I can tell you that a lot of those people do come from respectable families who live in the most expensive estates. (Money doesn't buy you class!)

    A few of them have Juvenile Liaison Officers who check up on them every once in awhile but while I wouldn't suggest you confront them, I think the majority of them are pretty harmless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I wouldn't confront them tbh.

    I did it before to a group of nine. Loss my cool and grabbed one of them. Nine of them jumped on me so i just started punching the ring leader in the face. When the others seen him drop like a ton of bricks they ran to save their own necks. I grabbed on running and ripped some of his jacket of his back lol

    Even though i ended up okay, they could have easily had a knife and stabbed me. Not worth taking the rise these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    Post a thread on boards.ie, guaranteed success.


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