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A Lotto Madness: Rollover Extravaganza

  • 02-03-2008 4:17pm
    #1
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭


    Now that I've got the requisite tabloidy thread title out of the way, wtf is with the lotto rolling over lately? I think this is around the third time in the last year its rolled over to a huge sum. Its gonna be ~10/11 million on Weds... will you be "playing" lotto?


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  • #2
    4Xcut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    No. The lotto is a tax on stupidity.

    The odds of winning are too great to make it worth a gamble and you'd get more enjoyment off putting a tenner on a match. More money but longer spectacle than just watching balls come out of a machine.


  • #3
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I pay my taxes!

    I would play because, even though the chances are incredably slim, it is a tiny glimmer of hope that I could have a life of complete relaxation and enjoyment. Money mighn't bring you happiness, but it certainly feckin helps and neither does the pressure and responsability and time of working away your life and filling in the down time with living.

    :)


  • #4
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Ahh the ironing of someone claiming the lotto is a tax on stupidity.

    Apart from the fact that the money generated goes towards things such as keeping sick children from dying, and keeping addiction support centres operating, there is also the fact that while the odds of winning the jackpot are so high as to make it unlikely you would ever win even if you played it twice a week every week of your life, the jackpot isn't the only prize on offer, and the odds of matching 3 or 4 numbers are much more favourable, infact people win ten or twenty euro, for there 2 euro ticket quite frequently, I won 700 euro a couple of years ago myself, so even if I had doe the lotto every week since then (although I didnt) I would still be in the black. There is also the fact that people do win the jackpot, I'm sure while you sit there trying to sound clever waffling on about a tax on stupidity that woman from limerick who won E100million+ is sitting on her private jet to the carribean to spend a week in one of her mansions reading this thread on her top of the range laptop and pissing herself over the idiocy involved in making your comment. You smell strange.


  • #5
    Healio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Healio


    You are getting value when the jackpot is over 8.2 million.


  • #6
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    cson wrote: »
    Now that I've got the requisite tabloidy thread title out of the way, wtf is with the lotto rolling over lately?
    I think it might be because no-one won it.


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  • #7
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭cson


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    I think it might be because no-one won it.

    My sarcasm-o-meter looks like its having an epileptic fit.


  • #8
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    slipss wrote: »
    Ahh the ironing of someone claiming the lotto is a tax on stupidity.

    Apart from the fact that the money generated goes towards things such as keeping sick children from dying, and keeping addiction support centres operating, there is also the fact that while the odds of winning the jackpot are so high as to make it unlikely you would ever win even if you played it twice a week every week of your life, the jackpot isn't the only prize on offer, and the odds of matching 3 or 4 numbers are much more favourable, infact people win ten or twenty euro, for there 2 euro ticket quite frequently, I won 700 euro a couple of years ago myself, so even if I had doe the lotto every week since then (although I didnt) I would still be in the black. There is also the fact that people do win the jackpot, I'm sure while you sit there trying to sound clever waffling on about a tax on stupidity that woman from limerick who won E100million+ is sitting on her private jet to the carribean to spend a week in one of her mansions reading this thread on her top of the range laptop and pissing herself over the idiocy involved in making your comment. You smell strange.


    If you don't understand statistics, don't spout on about them.


  • #9
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Statistics? Spout? On?!?!?

    The money generated goes towards good causes and sometimes people win stuff, thats all I said.








    (Damn maths heads, everything has to be statistics this and percentages that.)


  • #10
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    cson wrote: »
    My sarcasm-o-meter looks like its having an epileptic fit.
    Careful, that might feck up your watch again ... :p


  • #11
    cornbb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Only something like 40% of the money goes to good causes. A similar percentage goes on prizes, incredibly small. Agree that you're better off gambling on a match, or even at a roulette wheel.


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  • #12
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭cson


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    Careful, that might feck up your watch again ... :p

    Am I sorry I created that Nice thread or what. A lesson to all you boardsie's to never go create AH threads when you're emotional. There's no sympathy to had round these parts, and thats for sure. :(

    I think I can just about part with €4 this Wednesday.


  • #13
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    cson wrote: »
    Am I sorry I created that Nice thread or what. A lesson to all you boardsie's to never go create AH threads when you're emotional. There's no sympathy to had round these parts, and thats for sure. :(
    Lol ... you get your sympathy on the day, you pay for it for ever more! ;):D


  • #14
    SoupyNorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    I pay my taxes!

    it is a tiny glimmer of hope that I could have a life of complete relaxation and enjoyment. Money mighn't bring you happiness, but it certainly feckin helps and neither does the pressure and responsability and time of working away your life and filling in the down time with living.

    :)

    Indeed.

    I got 3numbers yesterday. €5, fair enough I spent €8 but I'll use the winnings towards Wednesday.

    Honestly, even to win enough to clear my college loans would be marvelous.


  • #15
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Paddys weekend fast approaching also, could it roll over until then.


  • #16
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,459 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    The Lotto is one of the few wagers that cost a relativley inconsequential amount, and yet you can win enough money to seriously change your life.

    Sure the odds are terrible, but on roulette, the max you can win on a €2 bet is €72, horses, maybe €200.


  • #17
    BKtje
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Sure didn't someone recently do a horse accumulator for 50c and come away with €1mil ?

    You only have to get (really) lucky once ;)


  • #18
    Smurfpiss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Smurfpiss


    pretty simple really. in 2006 they increased the available numbers from 42 to 45.
    giving you the odds of 1 in 8 million as opposed to 1 in 5 million.
    the less chance you have of winning, the less chance anyone wins.
    more money builds up.
    more people play cause of the rising jackpot, jackpot goes superhuge, and eventually somebody hits the target. (ish)


  • #19
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    just looked at the prize catergories, 25k for 5+1 numbers, and only 1300 for 5 numbers, would need to almost win the jackpot to make it worth doing


  • #20
    Omnipresence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭Omnipresence


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Paddys weekend fast approaching also, could it roll over until then.

    "Could" ... ha ha ha ha

    Will ..

    ;)


  • #21
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I don't see why people are getting the madness. The Euromillions was bigger last Friday, it was won, and it will still be bigger next Friday.


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  • #22
    zootroid
    Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭zootroid


    Ever since they added another 3 numbers it rolls over more often than not. Now I know the chances of winning are tiny, but at least when it was being won each week it gave you a glimmer of hope that you might win it.


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I don't see why people are getting the madness. The Euromillions was bigger last Friday, it was won, and it will still be bigger next Friday.
    Greater chance statistically of winning the Irish one is possibly the reason.


  • #24
    Dennis the Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    It's always won before it gets very high..everyone playing has the same (tiny) chance so why not you instead of someone else?


  • #25
    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I've only ever heard people who are strapped for cash use the "The lotto is a tax on stupid people" line, which is quite funny imo.

    Lotto is rigged btw but I'll still buy a few lines anyway.


  • #26
    cornbb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Brian Nolan wrote: »
    ...
    In my opinion I believe just before the draw on a Wednesday or Saturday night between 7:45 and 7:50pm they check the computer to pick a sequence of six numbers which have not been picked by any member of the public for that draw, in so doing afford them the opportunity to let the Lotto roll over for another while.
    ...
    (This is the reason why I usually repeat the same line twice my self in different shops for the same draw!)

    ...

    It is not my deliberate intention to cause defamation of the National Lottery however I feel that this petty juvenile carry on will finally lead to the downfall of the National Lottery as the general public start to cop on.
    ...
    PS: I rang the National Lottery office again this week and put my accusation about fraud to them, so don’t be surprised if they let it off before Easter.

    LOL :D


  • #27
    EamonnKeane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    If you play two lines every Wednesday and Saturday, you'll win the jackpot once every 39,026 years.


  • #28
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    O_o

    The Truman Show, Irish style!


  • #29
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Judging by conspiracy guy's history here, he's not a good 'un. Or maybe just not a right 'un.


  • #30
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Or could it just be that so many people do their families birthdays, anniversaries etc which means numbers between 1 and 31 for the most part so any winning combination with numbers higher than this are less likely to be winning combinations?


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  • #31
    Raspberry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Raspberry


    Are you asking a question?


  • #32
    GhostInTheRuins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Well they definitely make more money if there's a rollover. They don't top it up by the same amount that they would if there was a new draw and more people will obviously play it.

    Bit of advice for you; don't waste your money on the lotto.


  • #33
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Brian Nolan wrote: »
    Yours Sincerely
    Brian P. Nolan

    I've got to say I hate posters who do this. :mad:
    Will you post "Dear micmclo" in your reply?
    Makes me think I'm still in work reading another poxy email.
    This is boards.ie, no need for such nonsense!

    Anyway, you know a lot about the lotto and it's audited by KPMG. You see the friendly old guy in every draw.


  • #34
    Raspberry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Raspberry


    The lotto is for people who don't understand statistics and probability.


  • #35
    Jimbo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Are you for real??

    Firstly this belongs in Conspriacy Theories.

    The lotto is drawn live on TV with independant adjudicators present.
    I would imagine it would be nighon impossible to to 'fix' it. The balls seem to be rolling around pretty randomly to me.
    Also, is the national lottery a profit making organisation? I thought it was State run hence the huge donations to charity etc.

    Its all just a coincidence. Its a game of chance, coincidences happen.


  • #36
    2Scoops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    That's why they have an independent observer from Stokes-Kennedy-Crowley. :D

    Conspiracy theories forum, tbh.


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  • #37
    GhostInTheRuins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Oh wow! I just remember you now Brian. You started the best ever feedback thread a while back.

    I'd recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it yet. 5* thread.


  • #38
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    That and the moon landing. Tell the people!

    Btw, love the tinfoil hat. *sings* I am watching you through a camera*


  • #39
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    best


    thread



    evahhhhhhhh


  • #40
    Jimbo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/200709/TinFoil_DB52B2F1-0E7F-A983-F0F9D799A20B06C8.jpg


  • #41
    Voodu Child
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Just because the odds of winning are 1 in 8,145,060 (or whatever, I havent checked the maths), doesnt mean that if 8,145,060 people play, someone will win.

    A huge number of combinations will never be picked by anybody - 1,2,3,4,5,6 or 2,4,6,8,10,12 etc. Nobody ever picks combinations like that, but statistically, they're just as likely to occur as any random bunch of numbers.

    There are also 'popular' numbers that people are naturally more likely to pick (3,5,7 etc), and the fact that people often pick birthdays means the numbers over 31 have less representation.


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  • #42
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    The chap from Stokes Kennedy Crowley gives the signal.


  • #43
    Jimbo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Stop complaining Brian P. Nolan


    It could be you


  • #44
    Karoma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Threads merged. Don't fall into old habits, little monkey.


  • #45
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Telly Bingo Tuesday Nights ftw


  • #46
    kleefarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Hey Brian Nolan,

    Where is your thread titled "Is the lotto a fix" that you PMed me about a little while ago? And why do you want me to look at it?

    I can't find it. In fact I can't find any thread entitled "Is the lotto a fix".


  • #47
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Hey Brian Nolan,

    Where is your thread titled "Is the lotto a fix" that you PMed me about a little while ago? And why do you want me to look at it?

    I can't find it. In fact I can't find any thread entitled "Is the lotto a fix".
    It was merged with this thread. See from here on.


  • #48
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Raspberry wrote: »
    The lotto is for people who don't understand statistics and probability.

    :p at anti-lotto fascists :)

    Obviously the odds are against you. Everyone understands that. Some of the money goes to good causes. Be charitable. Only a couple of Euro a week.


  • #49
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I was PMed to look at this thread...I said all I had to give on this subject back in the last thread on this, which I can't be arsed finding, but if you find it I have some long winded BS and half assed maths about how it looks rigged to be won at times of national holiday...of course there's no obvious way in which the draw can be rigged without a fairly large conspiracy of people, surrounding machines and balls and databases of numbers that have already been picked and all that other crap, but it's stil hard to reconcile the cooincidence...then again those cooincidences are probably more likely to happen than someone actually picking the 6 numbers.
    Whatever about the lotto, scratchcards are worse...what a bloody scam...


  • #50
    FunkZ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Darn I wouldn't mind winning the Lotto right about now. I might get the second Lotto ticket of my life next week!


  • #51
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Ruu wrote: »
    The chap from Stokes Kennedy Crowley gives the signal.
    /nods.

    For all the nay-sayers, just don't buy a ticket.
    I've bought a few in my time. Nothing major happened and Jean Luc Picard didn't come after me in a black helicopter.


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